Knicks trade for Josh Hart

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I mean we beat these guys twice already. Maybe embiid/harden gets hurt. Easy to imagine. Idk. You have to put yourself in the position. If we lose we lose good try good effort

We were 3-0 against the Hawks before they chin checked us in the playoffs. The playoff ceiling for this team is very low because we play our starters heavy minutes and we don't really run any type of offense. So when everyone else decides it's time to give their guys 38-42 mpg we run into a brick wall.

Yes and we will likely lose in the first round if we even get in the playoffs at all. This was supposed to be at best maybe a .500 play-in team so I’m keeping my expectations in line with where they were to start the season. But I hope they go as far as possible. Who knows. We have Brunson. I saw him beat the jazz almost by himself last year. Maybe an injury happens. That’s about all we can hope for as far as this season

If you think they can beat the Sixers in a series you're not really keeping your expectations in line, you're letting the hype get to you

[F N 11]

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Josh hart definitely starting idk what’s going to happen, we shall see. Good defender and shooting 70 percent at rim. Shares the ball and sometimes too unselfish. Hunts rebounds and gets energy loose balls. I can’t wait to see how we use him. Probably won’t be able to sit him. This means no Deuce and less RJ imo.

[G_K_F]

We are still probably first round exit playoff team but you never know.

Thibs might be a liability in the playoffs too

Thibs' offense in the playoffs is awful.

Also, guys like Randle will wilt under more intense defensive pressure. You see what happens at the end of every game. Either he creates a turnover or takes a terrible shot when pressured by the defense. He's going to see that in every game once the playoffs start. People can celebrate regular season numbers but until this dude shows up in the playoffs he won't be taken seriously.

[G_K_F]

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Josh hart definitely starting idk what’s going to happen, we shall see. Good defender and shooting 70 percent at rim. Shares the ball and sometimes too unselfish. Hunts rebounds and gets energy loose balls. I can’t wait to see how we use him. Probably won’t be able to sit him. This means no Deuce and less RJ imo.

Hart is going to impede the development of Grimes. He's going to start over Grimes, which is going to hurt the shooting in the lineup.

I like Hart but it's another veteran to please Thibs. Grimes is still too green for his taste.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I mean we beat these guys twice already. Maybe embiid/harden gets hurt. Easy to imagine. Idk. You have to put yourself in the position. If we lose we lose good try good effort

We were 3-0 against the Hawks before they chin checked us in the playoffs. The playoff ceiling for this team is very low because we play our starters heavy minutes and we don't really run any type of offense. So when everyone else decides it's time to give their guys 38-42 mpg we run into a brick wall.

Not the same. We didn't have Brunson. Brunson is a stud and performs in the playoffs.

He's had 1 good playoff run, which is more than anyone on our team, but lets calm down on treating him like game 6 Klay. The Sixers have a team with PoA defender in Melton, brick wall defender in Tucker, and rim protection in Embiid, they are built to play us in a series.

[F N 11]

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Josh hart definitely starting idk what’s going to happen, we shall see. Good defender and shooting 70 percent at rim. Shares the ball and sometimes too unselfish. Hunts rebounds and gets energy loose balls. I can’t wait to see how we use him. Probably won’t be able to sit him. This means no Deuce and less RJ imo.

Hart is going to impede the development of Grimes. He's going to start over Grimes, which is going to hurt the shooting in the lineup.

I like Hart but it's another veteran to please Thibs. Grimes is still too green for his taste.

Grimes been fouling a lot lately a little less minutes for him is fine.

[mpharris36]

i don't see anyway we beat philly in a series. the one team i would give us a punchers chance against is cleveland. lots of young guys without experience. and we seem to play well against them. all their scoring comes mostly from small guards and we have guys who can defend them well. we struggle against wings more because we don't have wing defenders.

maybe mitch gives us a punchers chance vs Embiid?

[sol537]

Hart will come off the bench and solidify the 2nd unit along with IQ. IQ has had to do it by himself all season long. Hart's best role so far (IMO) will be off-the bench backing up he 2/3 spots with RJ playing a bit of 4 in a small ball set up at time. Hart allows RJ and Grimes to get reduced minutes so they can finish games stronger.

Mitch / Hart / Sims
Randle / Obi (some RJ)
RJ / Hart
Grimes / (Hart & IQ split back up SG time)
JB / IQ

No one should be playing more than 32 mins / game and Grimes/Hart/IQ can all get 24-30 mins depending on the match-ups and their in game performance. RJ should be at 30.

[Oscirus]

At this point, rj's a starter in name only, hes barely in the closing lineup right now. If anything Quickleys who hart is really competing with not rj

[Deeeez Knicks]

We are still probably first round exit playoff team but you never know.

Thibs might be a liability in the playoffs too

Thibs' offense in the playoffs is awful.

Also, guys like Randle will wilt under more intense defensive pressure. You see what happens at the end of every game. Either he creates a turnover or takes a terrible shot when pressured by the defense. He's going to see that in every game once the playoffs start. People can celebrate regular season numbers but until this dude shows up in the playoffs he won't be taken seriously.

Yea, Thibs has been horrible in the playoffs. Too slow to adjust too. Series will be over by the time he finishes watching film of game 1 and adjusts

[robillionaire]

We were 3-0 against the Hawks before they chin checked us in the playoffs. The playoff ceiling for this team is very low because we play our starters heavy minutes and we don't really run any type of offense. So when everyone else decides it's time to give their guys 38-42 mpg we run into a brick wall.

Yes and we will likely lose in the first round if we even get in the playoffs at all. This was supposed to be at best maybe a .500 play-in team so I’m keeping my expectations in line with where they were to start the season. But I hope they go as far as possible. Who knows. We have Brunson. I saw him beat the jazz almost by himself last year. Maybe an injury happens. That’s about all we can hope for as far as this season

If you think they can beat the Sixers in a series you're not really keeping your expectations in line, you're letting the hype get to you

I didn’t say that though. I would 100% expect them to lose, likely in a sweep. I do think it’s POSSIBLE IF a bunch of dudes get injured. I don’t think that’s hype. There’s no hype with this team. As far as Philly, I mean even Atlanta beat them too when they were the #1 seed, they haven’t been playoff world beaters. They lose to someone every year. Embiid could hurt a knee, harden always has something. I’m just saying they can put themselves in the position for luck to possibly fall in your lap. And that’s what it would take to win a series, a lot of luck, because philly is the more talented team by a wide margin

[robillionaire]

We are still probably first round exit playoff team but you never know.

Thibs might be a liability in the playoffs too

Thibs' offense in the playoffs is awful.

Also, guys like Randle will wilt under more intense defensive pressure. You see what happens at the end of every game. Either he creates a turnover or takes a terrible shot when pressured by the defense. He's going to see that in every game once the playoffs start. People can celebrate regular season numbers but until this dude shows up in the playoffs he won't be taken seriously.

Yea, Thibs has been horrible in the playoffs. Too slow to adjust too. Series will be over by the time he finishes watching film of game 1 and adjusts

Thibs did adjust in the playoffs and his adjustment was terrible. We were tied 1-1 coming off a game that we lost on a buzzer beater and a win, and he benched the starting PG and Center and we lost in 3 straight blowouts. And that was the adjustment everyone wanted. We would likely have been better off had he not capitulated to demands to adjust something and kept going with what they did all season.

[3toheadmelo]

i don't see anyway we beat philly in a series. the one team i would give us a punchers chance against is cleveland. lots of young guys without experience. and we seem to play well against them. all their scoring comes mostly from small guards and we have guys who can defend them well. we struggle against wings more because we don't have wing defenders.

maybe mitch gives us a punchers chance vs Embiid?

Nobody on this roster stopping embiid

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Yes and we will likely lose in the first round if we even get in the playoffs at all. This was supposed to be at best maybe a .500 play-in team so I’m keeping my expectations in line with where they were to start the season. But I hope they go as far as possible. Who knows. We have Brunson. I saw him beat the jazz almost by himself last year. Maybe an injury happens. That’s about all we can hope for as far as this season

If you think they can beat the Sixers in a series you're not really keeping your expectations in line, you're letting the hype get to you

I didn’t say that though. I would 100% expect them to lose, likely in a sweep. I do think it’s POSSIBLE IF a bunch of dudes get injured. I don’t think that’s hype. There’s no hype with this team. As far as Philly, I mean even Atlanta beat them too when they were the #1 seed, they haven’t been playoff world beaters. They lose to someone every year. Embiid could hurt a knee, harden always has something. I’m just saying they can put themselves in the position for luck to possibly fall in your lap. And that’s what it would take to win a series, a lot of luck, because philly is the more talented team by a wide margin

The Hawks beat them because of Simmons, he's not there anymore so unless he's suiting up we shouldn't really count on that happening here, Embiid dominated his matchup with Capella too so I don't think Mitch would fair well here. I'm talking from a point of both teams being healthy, if everyone got hurt we could win the title, but you can't count on that type of thing, you have to assume everyone is healthy, and in that situation we lose.

[ctorres]

Knicks are ready to go to war, let's gooooo

How soon until Mitch his healthy? He is the missing piece

[Polk377]

Knicks are ready to go to war, let's gooooo

How soon until Mitch his healthy? He is the missing piece

Mitch will probably be back after the all star break.

[mpharris36]

i don't see anyway we beat philly in a series. the one team i would give us a punchers chance against is cleveland. lots of young guys without experience. and we seem to play well against them. all their scoring comes mostly from small guards and we have guys who can defend them well. we struggle against wings more because we don't have wing defenders.

maybe mitch gives us a punchers chance vs Embiid?

Nobody on this roster stopping embiid

of course no one is stopping him. He is arguably the most dominant force in the NBA. But if you can make it tough on him that is all you can ask.

I feel with Grimes/IQ/Josh Hart we can make life for Harden pretty tough.

[KOA]

I think it’s pretty funny how Knicks fans used to be blamed for being delusional for being too optimistic.

It looks like we’ve gone a complete 180:
- To start the season people wanted to trade Randle for peanuts for having a poor season last year rather than thinking he can get back to even being average. He ended up becoming an all-star

- Many thought Jalen Brunson was overpaid/overhyped and not a difference make, yet he has arguably the largest impact on the game and has become one of the most loved players

- This was supposed to be a tank season with a 35 win record and we are at 30 wins, 4 games above 500 with 26 games left in the season.

- This team was said to only be able to beat crappy teams, yet they’ve competed and beat some of the best and have one of the better road records in the NBA

I get keeping hopes low so we don’t get disappointed, but the sky is blue and the grass is green. Sometimes we have to call things how they are, and we have a much better team than anyone could have hoped…

[Capn'O]

I think it’s pretty funny how Knicks fans used to be blamed for being delusional for being too optimistic.

It looks like we’ve gone a complete 180:
- To start the season people wanted to trade Randle for peanuts for having a poor season last year rather than thinking he can get back to even being average. He ended up becoming an all-star

- Many thought Jalen Brunson was overpaid/overhyped and not a difference make, yet he has arguably the largest impact on the game and has become one of the most loved players

- This was supposed to be a tank season with a 35 win record and we are at 30 wins, 4 games above 500 with 26 games left in the season.

- This team was said to only be able to beat crappy teams, yet they’ve competed and beat some of the best and have one of the better road records in the NBA

I get keeping hopes low so we don’t get disappointed, but the sky is blue and the grass is green. Sometimes we have to call things how they are, and we have a much better team than anyone could have hoped…

I had us at give or take .500 and in the mix for the playoffs and was referred to as "delusional."

[dakomish23]

Do we know when his first game is