2023 Draft Prospect discussion
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Most likely position is 15th or so. But we gave up draft capital so trading up is harder now. Not that these guys would ever do it.
Have to hope other teams make mistakes.
Have to hope other teams make mistakes.
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This dream is dead man, unfortunately. Miller is going in the Top 5 and even before the Poeltl trade, we were at like 6.
Anyway, if we're picking from 10-14, we're looking at Wallace, Smith Jr, Black, Sensabaugh MAYBE Dick or either of the Twins if they slide that far. In that group, I'd take Wallace, followed by Black. Black is a long PG who can't shoot - perfect fit for the Raptors.
Needless to say it's super early but guys I like in the late first round are Kris Murray, Jalen Hood-Schifino, Taylor Hendricks and Terquavion Smith. My favorites are Maxwell Lewis and Colby Jones.

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Rapsfan07 wrote:
This dream is dead man, unfortunately. Miller is going in the Top 5 and even before the Poeltl trade, we were at like 6.
Anyway, if we're picking from 10-14, we're looking at Wallace, Smith Jr, Black, Sensabaugh MAYBE Dick or either of the Twins if they slide that far. In that group, I'd take Wallace, followed by Black. Black is a long PG who can't shoot - perfect fit for the Raptors.
Needless to say it's super early but guys I like in the late first round are Kris Murray, Jalen Hood-Schifino, Taylor Hendricks and Terquavion Smith. My favorites are Maxwell Lewis and Colby Jones.
I had a dream...jk
Next on my list (outside of the top 2, and Miller) Jarace Walker, Taylor Hendricks, Cason Wallace. I also really like GD but I need to really watch his defense to see how it projects.
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Just wanted to bump this. Really, it should be stickied but definitely not on the second page

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cason wallace is the exact player we should be targeting and he should be available around where we're likely to pick.

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Brinbe wrote:cason wallace is the exact player we should be targeting and he should be available around where we're likely to pick.
If he keeps up his solid play and puts up 15-20 ppg, he should move up around the top 10 like where Haliburton was drafted (though he fell for some reason). I think the Raptors will be drafting around #15 now, with the soft schedule.
Someone said he would be targeted but Tyrese haliburton is only 1 inch taller but weighs even less than Wallace. Cason is shooting 69% FT's but that's what Tyrese shot his freshman year, though brought it up to 82% his sophomore season. Wallace has hit some clutch FT's at the end of games so I think he's more 75-80% than sub 70%. In 2023 he's shooting 88% FTs.

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Brinbe wrote:cason wallace is the exact player we should be targeting and he should be available around where we're likely to pick.
That range, 11-14, is going to be very hard to predict.
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My hopes of Zach Edey dominating our paint is in serious jeopardy with the Poeltl acquisition and trade of 2nd round pick. Maybe it's still a possibility but not looking too good right now.
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Psubs wrote:Brinbe wrote:cason wallace is the exact player we should be targeting and he should be available around where we're likely to pick.
If he keeps up his solid play and puts up 15-20 ppg, he should move up around the top 10 like where Haliburton was drafted (though he fell for some reason). I think the Raptors will be drafting around #15 now, with the soft schedule.
I'm hoping we pick up some losses man. I can't explain how badly we need them.

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Lots of wings in this draft
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One thing I will admit, 5-18 are the same level prospects. So unless we win the lottery, its prolly better to make the playoffs and still get a legit guy in the late teens
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Brinbe wrote:cason wallace is the exact player we should be targeting and he should be available around where we're likely to pick.
For me it's him or Taylor Hendricks outside the top 8. Heck, if we could get both that would be sick.
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Psubs wrote:Brinbe wrote:cason wallace is the exact player we should be targeting and he should be available around where we're likely to pick.
If he keeps up his solid play and puts up 15-20 ppg, he should move up around the top 10 like where Haliburton was drafted (though he fell for some reason). I think the Raptors will be drafting around #15 now, with the soft schedule.
Really? I see him dropping on draft night. He's probably more like 6-2 than 6-4, average wingspan, and he's not particularly dynamic offensively. Maxey was a far more exciting prospect, and he dropped to the middle of the first round in a weaker draft. The bar to clear for short combo-guards is much higher. That said, I love Cason, and think he'd be an awesome addition to this team. He moves differently on defense. Sounds crazy, but he reminds me of a smaller, better shooting Jimmy Butler.
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My choice for where we may end picking is Anthony Black currently. Let Fred walk.
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ItsDanger wrote:My hopes of Zach Edey dominating our paint is in serious jeopardy with the Poeltl acquisition and trade of 2nd round pick. Maybe it's still a possibility but not looking too good right now.
Probably too immobile. Trayce Jackson-Davis might get drafted before our 2nd pick now. AAAAH CRAP, the Spurs get this year's 2nd pick too. Well then lets rack up the wins. Gotta look up undrafted players now. Lucky two 2nd rounders were forfeited so only 28 players drafted in the 2nd round.
Probably looking at guards now in the draft: Cason Wallace, Jett Howard or Anthony Black. Though hoping Taylor Hendricks is still available. I'm really hoping the FO was thinking that #5-15 was going to be a flat crap shoot of role players but could find a lot of starters.

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This is a draft to buy 2nd round picks. Plenty of cheap owners out there and teams with overflowing rosters. It's available to Raps to be aggressive in this area for once.
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Psubs wrote:Brinbe wrote:cason wallace is the exact player we should be targeting and he should be available around where we're likely to pick.
If he keeps up his solid play and puts up 15-20 ppg, he should move up around the top 10 like where Haliburton was drafted (though he fell for some reason). I think the Raptors will be drafting around #15 now, with the soft schedule.
Someone said he would be targeted but Tyrese haliburton is only 1 inch taller but weighs even less than Wallace. Cason is shooting 69% FT's but that's what Tyrese shot his freshman year, though brought it up to 82% his sophomore season. Wallace has hit some clutch FT's at the end of games so I think he's more 75-80% than sub 70%. In 2023 he's shooting 88% FTs.
Man, I remember that draft. I had Haliburton in my top 5, and was shocked he fell so far. I thought for sure the Warriors would take him, but I guess I overestimated their scouting. Instead they took Wiseman. lol
Mark_83 wrote:This is why the Warriors are one of the smartest teams. Halliburton is tailor made for the Warriors with his amazing efficiency. He'll be like a rich man's Livingston for them, capable of playing the 1 or 2, off the ball or on the ball. I love this pick for them.
Mark_83 wrote:getrichordie wrote:So at this point, who do you guys have as the better prospect: Hayes, Balls, or Haliburton, and why?
I got Halliburton. A 6'5 pointguard with analytic friendly stats. Rare high floor high ceiling player imo.
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Brinbe wrote:cason wallace is the exact player we should be targeting and he should be available around where we're likely to pick.
He'll probably go earlier.
I'm shifting to guys like Rayan Rupert, Leonard Miller, Colby Jones toolsy types.
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grant101 wrote:Psubs wrote:Brinbe wrote:cason wallace is the exact player we should be targeting and he should be available around where we're likely to pick.
If he keeps up his solid play and puts up 15-20 ppg, he should move up around the top 10 like where Haliburton was drafted (though he fell for some reason). I think the Raptors will be drafting around #15 now, with the soft schedule.
Really? I see him dropping on draft night. He's probably more like 6-2 than 6-4, average wingspan, and he's not particularly dynamic offensively. Maxey was a far more exciting prospect, and he dropped to the middle of the first round in a weaker draft. The bar to clear for short combo-guards is much higher. That said, I love Cason, and think he'd be an awesome addition to this team. He moves differently on defense. Sounds crazy, but he reminds me of a smaller, better shooting Jimmy Butler.
Maxey was a "shooter" who shot 42% from the field entering the draft, and 29% from three. That's why he fell. And even that was a mistake. He's been better than a little over half the players taken in front of him.
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Mark_83 wrote:Psubs wrote:Brinbe wrote:cason wallace is the exact player we should be targeting and he should be available around where we're likely to pick.
If he keeps up his solid play and puts up 15-20 ppg, he should move up around the top 10 like where Haliburton was drafted (though he fell for some reason). I think the Raptors will be drafting around #15 now, with the soft schedule.
Someone said he would be targeted but Tyrese haliburton is only 1 inch taller but weighs even less than Wallace. Cason is shooting 69% FT's but that's what Tyrese shot his freshman year, though brought it up to 82% his sophomore season. Wallace has hit some clutch FT's at the end of games so I think he's more 75-80% than sub 70%. In 2023 he's shooting 88% FTs.
Man, I remember that draft. I had Haliburton in my top 5, and was shocked he fell so far. I thought for sure the Warriors would take him, but I guess I overestimated their scouting. Instead they took Wiseman. lolMark_83 wrote:This is why the Warriors are one of the smartest teams. Halliburton is tailor made for the Warriors with his amazing efficiency. He'll be like a rich man's Livingston for them, capable of playing the 1 or 2, off the ball or on the ball. I love this pick for them.Mark_83 wrote:getrichordie wrote:So at this point, who do you guys have as the better prospect: Hayes, Balls, or Haliburton, and why?
I got Halliburton. A 6'5 pointguard with analytic friendly stats. Rare high floor high ceiling player imo.
People didn't buy a 50/40/80 sophomore running a decent team. I wonder if they thought he wasn't athletic enough.
Detroit is the real stupid ones, trying to hit a 5-run HR with Killian Hayes. Haliburton should be a Piston, but then maybe they aren't bad enough to get Cade nor bad enough to get Wemby/Scoot. Though say they have Haliburton and pick up Barnes, Giddey or Wagner?!?!?!?








