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Re: dedmond or noel on the buyout 

Post#21 » by youngcrev » Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:40 pm

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youngcrev wrote:Noel, because he's better

He’s only better when he plays, which isn’t very often.
A bird in the hand {Desmond) is worth two not playing.


That's silly. Nerlens is at least better than what we have. Dedmon is cooked (and wasn't any good in the first place).
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Post#22 » by seventy6ers » Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:31 pm

Easily Noel! We definitely need to sign him if possible, otherwise, Rivers only has one choice on the bench and that is Harrell.
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Re: dedmond or noel on the buyout 

Post#23 » by spikeslovechild » Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:39 pm

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youngcrev wrote:Noel, because he's better

He’s only better when he plays, which isn’t very often.
A bird in the hand {Desmond) is worth two not playing.


That's silly. Nerlens is at least better than what we have. Dedmon is cooked (and wasn't any good in the first place).


No, he's not. He is awful. When he was here he could at least run around like a chicken with its head cut off. Now that his athleticism is declining he doesn't even have that to fall back on and he still is the most unskilled big in the league.

Det who has a worse big situation than we do isn't playing him. If the choice is Noel or Dedmon I choose Harrell. I'd probably choose Reed over Noel too
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Post#24 » by Eyeamok » Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:58 pm

I can guarantee it won't be Noel. He is still wanted by local authorities for trashing his apartment in 2018.

https://www.phillyvoice.com/report-nerlens-noel-sued-trashing-rental-home-weed-gatorade/
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Post#25 » by spikeslovechild » Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:06 pm

I wonder if Drummond gets bought out. He'd definitely be an upgrade.
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Post#26 » by Skates » Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:25 pm

Sign Noel, move Jah up to a two way contract, celebrate the Process years, lol.

Drummond would be the best get, but I don't see him getting bought out on his reasonable contract.

Dedmon has looked done at his last few stops.

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Post#27 » by Arsenal » Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:35 pm

Eyeamok wrote:I can guarantee it won't be Noel. He is still wanted by local authorities for trashing his apartment in 2018.

https://www.phillyvoice.com/report-nerlens-noel-sued-trashing-rental-home-weed-gatorade/


This article is from 2016. There's no chance this hasn't been resolved already.

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Re: dedmond or noel on the buyout 

Post#28 » by Arsenal » Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:01 pm

Order of preference for a buyout center:

1) Drummond
2) Noel
3) Dedmon

Drummond is the best fit because he helps fix our biggest problem - rebounding. Don't believe he's getting bought out though. So in that case bring home Nerlens.

P.S. Need to buyout Harrell if that happens. He won't be happy relegated to 3rd string anyway, and I don't want him here to tempt Doc.
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Re: dedmond or noel on the buyout 

Post#29 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:12 pm

Who can we realistically cut on our team ?
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Re: dedmond or noel on the buyout 

Post#30 » by youngcrev » Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:45 pm

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youngcrev wrote:
PhillyNj wrote:He’s only better when he plays, which isn’t very often.
A bird in the hand {Desmond) is worth two not playing.


That's silly. Nerlens is at least better than what we have. Dedmon is cooked (and wasn't any good in the first place).


No, he's not. He is awful. When he was here he could at least run around like a chicken with its head cut off. Now that his athleticism is declining he doesn't even have that to fall back on and he still is the most unskilled big in the league.

Det who has a worse big situation than we do isn't playing him. If the choice is Noel or Dedmon I choose Harrell. I'd probably choose Reed over Noel too


He's not playing in Detroit because they've got 2 lottery picks they used on guys at the same position.

He's still getting blocks and steals at the same rate. High deflections guy. Good rim protection numbers (outside of this season). I'd say he probably played his best basketball as the backup in New York. He never developed any type of offensive game, but he's a very good defensive player.

He's a lot like Thybulle, except that's a little easier to deal with at his position.
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Re: dedmond or noel on the buyout 

Post#31 » by spikeslovechild » Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:27 am

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youngcrev wrote:
That's silly. Nerlens is at least better than what we have. Dedmon is cooked (and wasn't any good in the first place).


No, he's not. He is awful. When he was here he could at least run around like a chicken with its head cut off. Now that his athleticism is declining he doesn't even have that to fall back on and he still is the most unskilled big in the league.

Det who has a worse big situation than we do isn't playing him. If the choice is Noel or Dedmon I choose Harrell. I'd probably choose Reed over Noel too


He's not playing in Detroit because they've got 2 lottery picks they used on guys at the same position.

He's still getting blocks and steals at the same rate. High deflections guy. Good rim protection numbers (outside of this season). I'd say he probably played his best basketball as the backup in New York. He never developed any type of offensive game, but he's a very good defensive player.

He's a lot like Thybulle, except that's a little easier to deal with at his position.


He is actually just an older more washed Reed at this point. I'd rather have Reed. I don't judge centers by blocks or steals but Reed per 36 numbers are pretty much the same.

If we are going to dip our toe in the water it would need to be for clear upgrades IMO like Drummond (if he gets bought out)_
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Post#32 » by Bum Adebayo » Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:40 am

Seriously, why not just Okafor? he at least can score, yeah we will get scored on a lot, but if he can score it will be more than fine.
Offense is more important than defense, even more from the bench IMO, guys like Noel get fancy steals and blocks but his defensive impact is just slightly positive at 0.32 RPM, and his offense is godawful, worst in the league in fact.
Okafor would be really useful as a 10-15 minute guy.
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Re: dedmond or noel on the buyout 

Post#33 » by youngcrev » Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:46 am

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youngcrev wrote:
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No, he's not. He is awful. When he was here he could at least run around like a chicken with its head cut off. Now that his athleticism is declining he doesn't even have that to fall back on and he still is the most unskilled big in the league.

Det who has a worse big situation than we do isn't playing him. If the choice is Noel or Dedmon I choose Harrell. I'd probably choose Reed over Noel too


He's not playing in Detroit because they've got 2 lottery picks they used on guys at the same position.

He's still getting blocks and steals at the same rate. High deflections guy. Good rim protection numbers (outside of this season). I'd say he probably played his best basketball as the backup in New York. He never developed any type of offensive game, but he's a very good defensive player.

He's a lot like Thybulle, except that's a little easier to deal with at his position.


He is actually just an older more washed Reed at this point. I'd rather have Reed. I don't judge centers by blocks or steals but Reed per 36 numbers are pretty much the same.

If we are going to dip our toe in the water it would need to be for clear upgrades IMO like Drummond (if he gets bought out)_


Drummond's owed 3.6M next year, doubt he's bought out. I'd also probably rather have Nerlens in the playoffs anyway since he can defend in space, while Drummond has gotten played off the floor.

Reed would be a great option if he didn't make so many boneheaded plays, but it is what it is. Nerlens terrible hands would probably drive us crazy on Harden feeds, but he's at least a pretty consistently good defensive players.
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Re: dedmond or noel on the buyout 

Post#34 » by Bum Adebayo » Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:50 am

Noel is terrible beyond belief, -5.04 RPM ranks among the 6 worst centers in the league, and no, Harrell is not in this group, he is better than Noel.
As mentoned, only Drummond seems like an upgrade from active NBA players, or like I mention Okafor would bring something to the table.
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Post#35 » by HardenGoat » Sat Feb 11, 2023 3:20 am

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Post#36 » by 76ciology » Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:56 am

I think Kobble said it best. If you want Noel, then why not just let Reed play?

Reed have flaws but there’s now McDaniels to clean up his mess on defense while we have Milton, Maxey and Niang to carry the offense
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Post#37 » by rocketsfan100 » Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:41 am

Ibaka or Dedmond. Dedmond and Ibaka can be floor spacers because they can shoot the three ball and are solid post defenders. They can also play PF with Embiid on the floor
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Post#38 » by eyeatoma » Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:51 am

rocketsfan100 wrote:Ibaka or Dedmond. Dedmond and Ibaka can be floor spacers because they can shoot the three ball and are solid post defenders. They can also play PF with Embiid on the floor
Ibaka is almost in the grave, no thanks. Dedmond I can get behind.

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Post#39 » by spikeslovechild » Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:25 am

Bum Adebayo wrote:Seriously, why not just Okafor? he at least can score, yeah we will get scored on a lot, but if he can score it will be more than fine.
Offense is more important than defense, even more from the bench IMO, guys like Noel get fancy steals and blocks but his defensive impact is just slightly positive at 0.32 RPM, and his offense is godawful, worst in the league in fact.
Okafor would be really useful as a 10-15 minute guy.


The issue with Okafor isn't his offense or his defense it's his knees. I made the mistake of believing that he could get back to where he was in his rookie year because the FO was never truthful about the impact of the injuries.

It's sad he is basically done as an NBA player so early but he is. I mean if he was able to come back from the injury and be an effective NBA player it would have happened already
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Re: dedmond or noel on the buyout 

Post#40 » by HotelVitale » Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:16 pm

76ciology wrote:I think Kobble said it best. If you want Noel, then why not just let Reed play?

Reed have flaws but there’s now McDaniels to clean up his mess on defense while we have Milton, Maxey and Niang to carry the offense


Cuz Reed is chaos. I think he makes the most position and foul mistakes of any non rookie player I can remember watching on a decent team, tough to count on a guy like that. I’m pro Reed I should say, love watching him and definitely think he should’ve been pulling minutes for the last 2 years, but I would take Noel for the PO for sure right now.

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