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Re: 76ers vs Knicks Feb 10th - 7:00pm 

Post#161 » by phillynative » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:16 am

76ciology wrote:If Maxey played this way, we could have won against Celts. Its that simple


I mean are we even sure Maxey can play that well against the Celtics ? They have a bunch of big defensive guards that move their feet well so they leave very little gaps for him to drive through and can contest his perimeter shots well. It's the same sentiment I have with Tobi and their wings and Grant giving him problems , he shrinks against length and athleticism .

The Celtics simply are a bad matchup problem for the Sixers and have been for awhile now. It doesnt matter if Embiid is unguardable if his teammates are locked up when hes triple teamed. So again if the sixers can't do anything with the Celtics what's the point? How can this team considered to be contenders if they can't do anything with the team most likely to be in the way of them getting to the finals?

Well managed teams add players and sets to their team to help neutralize the threats(Embiid) in front of them . For example Raptors 19' with Gasol. Bucks with Lopez and ofcourse Celtics with Al horford.

The sixers came in to the season knowing that the Bucks and Celtics were their toughest competition and forwards were their biggest threats(Tatum/Brown/Giannis).
What did the sixers do to neutralize the threats? They bring in 6ft Melton, 6'5 37y.o Tucker and 6'6 no defense center Trez. :lol: :lol: :lol:

The jalen mcdaniels move fills a obvious need and it seems like doc is going to play him but now the sixers have to cross their fingers for a playable back up center in the buyout market.
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Re: 76ers vs Knicks Feb 10th - 7:00pm 

Post#162 » by phillynative » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:24 am

Negrodamus wrote:If McDaniels is going to play backup C, then we’re so unbelievably screwed, it’s not even funny.


Yea I hope this ain't it. Hes a 200 pound forward.
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Re: 76ers vs Knicks Feb 10th - 7:00pm 

Post#163 » by Sixercise » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:22 pm

76ciology wrote:Looks like we’d have House Jr. replacing Thybulle’s role/minutes while having Jaden McDaniels playing back-up C (Reed played this role tonight)


Uh, nah.
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Re: 76ers vs Knicks Feb 10th - 7:00pm 

Post#164 » by Jailblazers7 » Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:25 pm

76ciology wrote:
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Maybe Maxey was going through some personal issues lately?


I think it’s mostly a good reminder that Maxey is still a 22 year old kid. He’s resilient and will figure it out but it’s tough to have your role change so frequently.
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Re: 76ers vs Knicks Feb 10th - 7:00pm 

Post#165 » by Bum Adebayo » Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:42 pm

If he was much older, his trade value would also be much lower.
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Re: 76ers vs Knicks Feb 10th - 7:00pm 

Post#166 » by Negrodamus » Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:45 pm

If he plays defense like he did last night consistently, I'd give him the max when his contract is up honestly.
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Re: 76ers vs Knicks Feb 10th - 7:00pm 

Post#167 » by 76ciology » Sat Feb 11, 2023 3:20 pm

Negrodamus wrote:If he plays defense like he did last night consistently, I'd give him the max when his contract is up honestly.


Depends on the context.
If clean rebuild, that’s a pass for me.
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Re: 76ers vs Knicks Feb 10th - 7:00pm 

Post#168 » by Stanford » Sat Feb 11, 2023 3:36 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:If he was much older, his trade value would also be much lower.


You're dumb
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Re: 76ers vs Knicks Feb 10th - 7:00pm 

Post#169 » by mjkvol » Sat Feb 11, 2023 3:50 pm

76ciology wrote:
MVP1992 wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Maybe Maxey was going through some personal issues lately?



Do you think some of these young guys that hear talk of being possible trade bait leading up to the trade deadline get affected emotionally?

Went from starting, killing it, all-star chatter, to broken foot and out, comes back flat and playing like trash, coming off the bench, name floated in trade talks.


I think its about coming off the bench. The kid takes his career too seriously.

Problem with young guys nowadays is everything's instant that they can’t accept some things takes time.

Imagine one day being one of the most promising players, signing your own shoe then being told you play off the bench the next day.

Just my opinion. Maybe its not that.

Maybe his crush just does not want to go out with him.


He "takes his career too seriously"? Is that a remotely serious statement?

The kid cares, and has been tossed around by this garbage coach since he's been in the league - not playing, playing in desperation, starting 2 guard, switched to PG, injured then coming off the bench. Through it all he works his ass off and keeps smiling.

What I hope happens is that everyone gets their wish and he's traded for that 'win now' piece that fits so much better, and Maxey goes on the be a perennial all-star somewhere and wins a couple of rings.
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Re: 76ers vs Knicks Feb 10th - 7:00pm 

Post#170 » by the_process » Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:01 pm

76ciology wrote:
MVP1992 wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Maybe Maxey was going through some personal issues lately?



Do you think some of these young guys that hear talk of being possible trade bait leading up to the trade deadline get affected emotionally?

Went from starting, killing it, all-star chatter, to broken foot and out, comes back flat and playing like trash, coming off the bench, name floated in trade talks.


I think its about coming off the bench. The kid takes his career too seriously.

Problem with young guys nowadays is everything's instant that they can’t accept some things takes time.

Imagine one day being one of the most promising players, signing your own shoe then being told you play off the bench the next day.

Just my opinion. Maybe its not that.

Maybe his crush just does not want to go out with him.


Ummm…. the rest of what you said makes perfect sense. But this part is pretty bad. Of course he takes his career seriously, and he should, he wants to be great.

Also the part being overlooked IMO is last week was trade week. Not that his name was really being floated in rumors, but it’s always kind of floating out there that he and Tobi could be flipped for a star.
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Re: 76ers vs Knicks Feb 10th - 7:00pm 

Post#171 » by 76ciology » Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:01 pm

ok let’s get that done in the offseason. For now, play in your role and star in your role.
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Re: 76ers vs Knicks Feb 10th - 7:00pm 

Post#172 » by 76ciology » Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:04 pm

the_process wrote:
76ciology wrote:
MVP1992 wrote:

Do you think some of these young guys that hear talk of being possible trade bait leading up to the trade deadline get affected emotionally?

Went from starting, killing it, all-star chatter, to broken foot and out, comes back flat and playing like trash, coming off the bench, name floated in trade talks.


I think its about coming off the bench. The kid takes his career too seriously.

Problem with young guys nowadays is everything's instant that they can’t accept some things takes time.

Imagine one day being one of the most promising players, signing your own shoe then being told you play off the bench the next day.

Just my opinion. Maybe its not that.

Maybe his crush just does not want to go out with him.


Ummm…. the rest of what you said makes perfect sense. But this part is pretty bad. Of course he takes his career seriously, and he should, he wants to be great.

Also the part being overlooked IMO is last week was trade week. Not that his name was really being floated in rumors, but it’s always kind of floating out there that he and Tobi could be flipped for a star.


Yeah, my wording was wrong.

What i mean was he was too idealistic. There’s always a process in reality.
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Re: 76ers vs Knicks Feb 10th - 7:00pm 

Post#173 » by Negrodamus » Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:07 pm

76ciology wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:If he plays defense like he did last night consistently, I'd give him the max when his contract is up honestly.


Depends on the context.
If clean rebuild, that’s a pass for me.


If he does that consistently, then we’re likely going to the Finals. So in that context, he’s worth the max regardless of rebuild.
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Re: 76ers vs Knicks Feb 10th - 7:00pm 

Post#174 » by 76ciology » Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:16 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:If he plays defense like he did last night consistently, I'd give him the max when his contract is up honestly.


Depends on the context.
If clean rebuild, that’s a pass for me.


If he does that consistently, then we’re likely going to the Finals. So in that context, he’s worth the max regardless of rebuild.


No, im not maxing him out “regardless of the rebuild” but i might max him out if thats what it takes for this team to make it to the finals WITH EMBIID AND HARDEN.

Even Jalen Brunson is not paid the max. His fair value is more in the Jordan Poole or Tyler Herro bracket.
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Re: 76ers vs Knicks Feb 10th - 7:00pm 

Post#175 » by phillynative » Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:26 pm

Im sure Maxey has been told all his life that if he just works hard , give 200 % than everything will come as he wants it to but sometimes it doesnt work like that . He's young , this is life and he's learning and will figure it out. This work ethic and attitude gives him the edge he needs because he's not exactly physically gifted.
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Re: 76ers vs Knicks Feb 10th - 7:00pm 

Post#176 » by 76ciology » Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:35 pm

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76ciology wrote:If Maxey played this way, we could have won against Celts. Its that simple


I mean are we even sure Maxey can play that well against the Celtics ? They have a bunch of big defensive guards that move their feet well so they leave very little gaps for him to drive through and can contest his perimeter shots well. It's the same sentiment I have with Tobi and their wings and Grant giving him problems , he shrinks against length and athleticism .

The Celtics simply are a bad matchup problem for the Sixers and have been for awhile now. It doesnt matter if Embiid is unguardable if his teammates are locked up when hes triple teamed. So again if the sixers can't do anything with the Celtics what's the point? How can this team considered to be contenders if they can't do anything with the team most likely to be in the way of them getting to the finals?

Well managed teams add players and sets to their team to help neutralize the threats(Embiid) in front of them . For example Raptors 19' with Gasol. Bucks with Lopez and ofcourse Celtics with Al horford.

The sixers came in to the season knowing that the Bucks and Celtics were their toughest competition and forwards were their biggest threats(Tatum/Brown/Giannis).
What did the sixers do to neutralize the threats? They bring in 6ft Melton, 6'5 37y.o Tucker and 6'6 no defense center Trez. :lol: :lol: :lol:

The jalen mcdaniels move fills a obvious need and it seems like doc is going to play him but now the sixers have to cross their fingers for a playable back up center in the buyout market.


Agree with alot of what you just said.

These teams are built for the playoffs. I also think we are built for the playoffs. We are not just switchable but most of our guys are good man to man defenders. Even Niang.

Tucker, Tobi and Niang are mobile tweeners who slows down penetration allowing Melton or Biid to send help defense. Jaden McDaniels also is a good rim protector (dfg% around the rim better than reed), and he has the length to match with Tatum and KD.

Regarding Maxey, I think we can if we play our dribble drive quicker or if harden or biid can generate gravity better. And try to find ways in attacking Brunson’s defense (he’s a terrible man to man defender).

Maxey is an offensive player who needs help. He’s not the type who you can just give the ball and let him do his thing. He needs collective dribble drive or playing alongside an alpha who can breakdown the defense for him to take advantage with.

Given that situation with the Celts game.. i’d play a triple guard unit of Maxey, Milton and Melton or Harden then have McDaniels and Tucker at the 4&5 position, this gives me quickness and spacing for my dribble drive.
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Re: 76ers vs Knicks Feb 10th - 7:00pm 

Post#177 » by Kobblehead » Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:21 pm

Don't trade Maxey. He's going to develop into a franchise player here. Keep he and Embiid together.
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Re: 76ers vs Knicks Feb 10th - 7:00pm 

Post#178 » by youngcrev » Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:37 pm

Wilfried wrote:
76ciology wrote:I dont think we’re gonna get a new back-up big while I think McDaniels and Harrell or Reed or even possibly Tucker at the 4&5 will be the direction.


Tucker - McDaniels - Harris frontcourt could be something that can be used for some minutes I guess, together with Maxey and Harden?

Do you guys think we will try a front court of Harris - McDaniels and Embiid? Not enough spacing probably, but this would put PJ to the bench which would be a good thing to limit his minutes a bit and lead our bench squad with Tyrese.


I think Tucker/McDaniels/Harris could/will see some run together in a switch everything lineup around Harden, but putting Maxey with that group throws off the whole concept. Ideally you'd have Melton as the 5th guy.

I don't really see any issues with playing McDaniels/Harris/Embiid together. Doubt he's supplanting Tucker in the starting lineup though.
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Re: 76ers vs Knicks Feb 10th - 7:00pm 

Post#179 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:55 pm

Without the pedigree, I think Tucker could lose his starting spot to McDaniels. But, we spent $10 mil on him and he was hand-picked by Joel and James so it's unlikely. I think in theory, McDaniels seems like a better starter than Tucker for this team though.

Harden(33)/Milton(15)
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Re: 76ers vs Knicks Feb 10th - 7:00pm 

Post#180 » by Eyeamok » Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:56 pm

NYSixersFan wrote:Doc has had an epiphany.....


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This makes me happy. So being mad about last year Doc and let the young man play and make mistakes. He might grown and actually learn from them, this season.
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