dedmond or noel on the buyout

Kobblehead · Post #41 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:30 pm

I think Doc wants a guy with size.

Dwight Howard, Andre Drummond, DeAndre Jordan. These are all 260+ pounders.

Dedmon isn't as heavy or powerful as those guys, but he's much closer to the ideal size than guys like Noel and Reed.

LloydFree · Post #42 » by **LloydFree** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:55 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:Seriously, why not just Okafor? he at least can score, yeah we will get scored on a lot, but if he can score it will be more than fine.
Offense is more important than defense, even more from the bench IMO, guys like Noel get fancy steals and blocks but his defensive impact is just slightly positive at 0.32 RPM, and his offense is godawful, worst in the league in fact.
Okafor would be really useful as a 10-15 minute guy.

LOL

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #43 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 6:21 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I think Doc wants a guy with size.

Dwight Howard, Andre Drummond, DeAndre Jordan. These are all 260+ pounders.

Dedmon isn't as heavy or powerful as those guys, but he's much closer to the ideal size than guys like Noel and Reed.

Agree, he's also a willing and capable shooter if left open.

youngcrev · Post #44 » by **youngcrev** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 6:33 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I think Doc wants a guy with size.

Dwight Howard, Andre Drummond, DeAndre Jordan. These are all 260+ pounders.

Dedmon isn't as heavy or powerful as those guys, but he's much closer to the ideal size than guys like Noel and Reed.

Montrezl doesn't fit that theory, and he's been Doc's backup center in 4 of his last 6 seasons coaching.

I think it's just a matter of who the best player they can get to come play for the minimum is since they don't want to pour resources into such a limited role (and because you can find value there for the minimum comparative to other positions).

I don't Reed not consistently playing has anything to do with size. He doesn't play consistently because he does dumb **** that drives coaches crazy.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #45 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 6:51 pm

I think it would be ideal to add another center, but keep both Harrell and Reed in the plans. Doc would then have three backup bigs to choose from based off of matchup. Dedmon would be my first choice, but I'd welcome Noel back as well.

Negrodamus · Post #46 » by **Negrodamus** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:16 pm

A darkhorse center I'd pick up would be Jay Huff...

He would be an excellent center in this offense. Kind of an exaggerated version of the modern center: Great 3 pt shooter and great shot blocker. Nothing really in between.

Kobblehead · Post #47 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:34 pm

youngcrev wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:I think Doc wants a guy with size.

Dwight Howard, Andre Drummond, DeAndre Jordan. These are all 260+ pounders.

Dedmon isn't as heavy or powerful as those guys, but he's much closer to the ideal size than guys like Noel and Reed.

Montrezl doesn't fit that theory, and he's been Doc's backup center in 4 of his last 6 seasons coaching.

I think it's just a matter of who the best player they can get to come play for the minimum is since they don't want to pour resources into such a limited role (and because you can find value there for the minimum comparative to other positions).

I don't Reed not consistently playing has anything to do with size. He doesn't play consistently because he does dumb **** that drives coaches crazy.

Trez is a power player, though. If you scaled his weight up with normal C height, he would be exactly like those other guys in terms of build.

Noel is not exactly known to be a rocket scientist or a guy coaches like either.

snoopy13 · Post #48 » by **snoopy13** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:25 pm

What Kevin Love if buyout he rebounds very well and good 3pt shooter and can both center and pf

youngcrev · Post #49 » by **youngcrev** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:41 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:I think Doc wants a guy with size.

Dwight Howard, Andre Drummond, DeAndre Jordan. These are all 260+ pounders.

Dedmon isn't as heavy or powerful as those guys, but he's much closer to the ideal size than guys like Noel and Reed.

Montrezl doesn't fit that theory, and he's been Doc's backup center in 4 of his last 6 seasons coaching.

I think it's just a matter of who the best player they can get to come play for the minimum is since they don't want to pour resources into such a limited role (and because you can find value there for the minimum comparative to other positions).

I don't Reed not consistently playing has anything to do with size. He doesn't play consistently because he does dumb **** that drives coaches crazy.

Trez is a power player, though. If you scaled his weight up with normal C height, he would be exactly like those other guys in terms of build.

Noel is not exactly known to be a rocket scientist or a guy coaches like either.

This is all Morey read and immediately got on the phone to try to bring him here

rocketsfan100 · Post #50 » by **rocketsfan100** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:02 am

snoopy13 wrote:What Kevin Love if buyout he rebounds very well and good 3pt shooter and can both center and pf

If he gets bought out which is unlikely I suspect he will be headed to the lakers and his good buddy Lebron.

SixthStreet · Post #51 » by **SixthStreet** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 4:54 am

There's really no wing who'd force himself into the rotation now with Ross gone so I'd go for Noel. Not sure if he'd play in the playoffs but I think he'd help in the regular season for seeding purposes considering we'll have a denser and harder schedule compared to the other contenders the rest of the way.

LeonJordanJr24 · Post #52 » by **LeonJordanJr24** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:05 am

What about Barton ?

Wilfried · Post #53 » by **Wilfried** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:50 am

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:What about Barton ?

Think he's the best option available, and we can use him I guess.
He can score and is experienced.

Would prefer him above a Noel or Dedmon.
Tucker will need to do the back-up center minutes (and who knows, Reed can give us 5 decent hustle minutes?) in the play-offs, but we can use a player like Barton when Tobias or De'Anthony are disappearing on offense

SixthStreet · Post #54 » by **SixthStreet** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:53 am

I see the Spurs cut Stanley Johnson, I wonder if he can defend enough to play. He has the right size and athleticism to help in theory.

rocketsfan100 · Post #55 » by **rocketsfan100** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:47 am

Justin Holiday, Will Barton, Stanley Johnson and Dedmond. Beverley would be a solid culture guy who will be in there for niggling and pesky defensive purposes.

Barton and Holiday are good three point shooters. Barton is shooting at 38 percent from the three line and holiday is another shooter

spikeslovechild · Post #56 » by **spikeslovechild** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:02 pm

rocketsfan100 wrote:Justin Holiday, Will Barton, Stanley Johnson and Dedmond. Beverley would be a solid culture guy who will be in there for niggling and pesky defensive purposes.

Barton and Holiday are good three point shooters. Barton is shooting at 38 percent from the three line and holiday is another shooter

It's slim pickings among those. The only guy I'd be interested in is barton

Kolkmania · Post #57 » by **Kolkmania** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:13 pm

Are we sure that those guys are actually better than Harrell, Reed and Tucker?

Embiid will play roughly 36-40 minutes per night in meaningful PO games. If we have multiple options at the buyout market, I'd rather focus on someone who can provide more flexibility on the wing than a potential marginal upgrade over Reed or Harrell.

Despite the addition of McDaniels, I feel that we are still really light on perimeter defense. I think that Stanley Johnson would be someone who can defend fast but strong 6'6'' wings. McDaniels is really thin, Melton too small and Harris too slow. If Tucker is playing back-up center minutes we have no alternatives imo.

Certainly not a great shooter, but can handle the ball recently well. Think he could be useful in some switch-heavy lineups with Harden.

mhunt · Post #58 » by **mhunt** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:40 pm

HardenGoat wrote:What exactly has happened to Whiteside?

I've been wondering the same thing. The guy could offer some rim protection & rebounding. He actually finished top 10 in blocks per game off the bench with the jazz.

phillynative · Post #59 » by **phillynative** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:51 pm

Kolkmania wrote:Are we sure that those guys are actually better than Harrell, Reed and Tucker?

Embiid will play roughly 36-40 minutes per night in meaningful PO games. If we have multiple options at the buyout market, I'd rather focus on someone who can provide more flexibility on the wing than a potential marginal upgrade over Reed or Harrell.

Despite the addition of McDaniels, I feel that we are still really light on perimeter defense. I think that Stanley Johnson would be someone who can defend fast but strong 6'6'' wings. McDaniels is really thin, Melton too small and Harris too slow. If Tucker is playing back-up center minutes we have no alternatives imo.

Certainly not a great shooter, but can handle the ball recently well. Think he could be useful in some switch-heavy lineups with Harden.

We need both O dont trust Harrel or Reed

bumpo · Post #60 » by **bumpo** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:21 pm

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