Trade Ideas

[jbk1234]

I mean we have no backup big men so I don't really see how buying Love out is an option regardless of what JBB wants. We can't be playing Allen and Mobley all the minutes in April ahead of the playoffs. Especially Allen. I don't think anyone wants to see RoLo for 20 minutes a game.

[TheLand13]

Hard to imagine unless he loves working his ass off just to warm a bench. It'd likely be more fun to join the Lakers where defense is not a priority.

I think Love realizes that Cleveland’s future is incredibly bright and he wants to continue to be a part of the team going forward, no matter the role. Part of me also thinks he’s grown to love the city and its franchise. It’s the team that allowed him the chance to live out his dream of playing in an NBA finals (and he’s been able to play in three… and hell he even got to win one as their third option).

Love is just built different.

Fan fiction?

I mean it's one thing to accept riding the bench when your team has treated you well, is paying you $31M, plans to honor you the rest of your career, your contract will be up soon, and you will likely get the chance to try to get back to full health and show something to perhaps earn a new contract.

But on the flip side, imagine for a moment you've earned $260M in your career, you have a supermodel wife, and can literally be spending your time doing ANYTHING you want ... is that sitting on the bench cheering for the guys on a league minimum contract?

Even as a super Cavs fan like we all are, wouldn't it be more fun to just show up and sit courtside whenever you want? Perhaps enjoy some games from the owner's box? Why subject yourself to having to sit and watch the Cavs .vs. Pistons in the middle of February?

If he can't find a team willing to give him a decent contract and a decent role and he just loves the game too much to give it up, he could just sit out most of the regular season and join a contender that needs him when he feels like it. He wouldn't even be bound by the waived player playoff-roster cutoff date. He could sign as late as April 9th.

Odds are someone gets hurt before the end of the season and Kevin will get another chance to prove he has a role on this team, but if JBB would just prefer consistency over the occasional Cavalanche ... Kevin just may no longer have a role on the team.

Maybe it is fan faction.

But then I need you tell me why Cleveland is choosing not to buy out Love. You tell me why he was never traded even though there's probably some teams out there that would have wanted him. You tell me why even with Love sitting out there doing nothing, he's still actively engaged and all smiles on the sidelines being super supportive of his teammates? Everything that is going on suggests to me that Love is actually very content with his role on the team, at least right now.

Again, everything I just said started with "I think". I have no idea if that's actually the case or not. This is my attempt at trying to make sense of the situation, because I was fully expecting Love to no longer be on the team by now.

But if he wanted to be gone, they would have bought out his contract. If Cleveland wanted him gone, again, his contract would have been bought out by now. Maybe one side tried doing so and the other refused, I don't know. But right now, there are no reports coming out stating that Cleveland intends to buyout Love, or that he's interested in one. Everything seems to be pointing in the direction of him staying with the team for the remainder of the season.

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Kevin signed a small deal to stay with Cleveland after this season is over. I think (again, keep in mind I'm saying I THINK) he's content with what's going on, and has no problem continuing to be the mentor for a team filled with a lot of young players that is expected to be a major powerhouse in the East for years to come. Me? I personally hope that next season, if he does stay, he can be a regular rotation player off the bench. His shooting and rebounding (and passing) are very valuable and difficult to replace. Even if he's a liability defensively, I don't think it's the worst thing in the world to have someone who can impact the game in a variety of ways playing 15-20 minutes a night for you.

I mean we have no backup big men so I don't really see how buying Love out is an option regardless of what JBB wants. We can't be playing Allen and Mobley all the minutes in April ahead of the playoffs. Especially Allen. I don't think anyone wants to see RoLo for 20 minutes a game.

Yeah but if he has any intention of playing Love down the road, he might want to get started on that. We have less than 30 games remaining this season and the playoffs are a month and a half away. Maybe he's waiting until the all star break and hoping that Love's thumb will be fully healed, and thus the shots will start falling again. I don't think it needs to be pointed out why it's beneficial to start playing Love ASAP if the plan is to use him regularly in the playoffs.

[JonFromVA]

I think Love realizes that Cleveland’s future is incredibly bright and he wants to continue to be a part of the team going forward, no matter the role. Part of me also thinks he’s grown to love the city and its franchise. It’s the team that allowed him the chance to live out his dream of playing in an NBA finals (and he’s been able to play in three… and hell he even got to win one as their third option).

Love is just built different.

Fan fiction?

I mean it's one thing to accept riding the bench when your team has treated you well, is paying you $31M, plans to honor you the rest of your career, your contract will be up soon, and you will likely get the chance to try to get back to full health and show something to perhaps earn a new contract.

But on the flip side, imagine for a moment you've earned $260M in your career, you have a supermodel wife, and can literally be spending your time doing ANYTHING you want ... is that sitting on the bench cheering for the guys on a league minimum contract?

Even as a super Cavs fan like we all are, wouldn't it be more fun to just show up and sit courtside whenever you want? Perhaps enjoy some games from the owner's box? Why subject yourself to having to sit and watch the Cavs .vs. Pistons in the middle of February?

If he can't find a team willing to give him a decent contract and a decent role and he just loves the game too much to give it up, he could just sit out most of the regular season and join a contender that needs him when he feels like it. He wouldn't even be bound by the waived player playoff-roster cutoff date. He could sign as late as April 9th.

Odds are someone gets hurt before the end of the season and Kevin will get another chance to prove he has a role on this team, but if JBB would just prefer consistency over the occasional Cavalanche ... Kevin just may no longer have a role on the team.

Maybe it is fan faction.

But then I need you tell me why Cleveland is choosing not to buy out Love. You tell me why he was never traded even though there's probably some teams out there that would have wanted him. You tell me why even with Love sitting out there doing nothing, he's still actively engaged and all smiles on the sidelines being super supportive of his teammates? Everything that is going on suggests to me that Love is actually very content with his role on the team, at least right now.

Again, everything I just said started with "I think". I have no idea if that's actually the case or not. This is my attempt at trying to make sense of the situation, because I was fully expecting Love to no longer be on the team by now.

But if he wanted to be gone, they would have bought out his contract. If Cleveland wanted him gone, again, his contract would have been bought out by now. Maybe one side tried doing so and the other refused, I don't know. But right now, there are no reports coming out stating that Cleveland intends to buyout Love, or that he's interested in one. Everything seems to be pointing in the direction of him staying with the team for the remainder of the season.

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Kevin signed a small deal to stay with Cleveland after this season is over. I think (again, keep in mind I'm saying I THINK) he's content with what's going on, and has no problem continuing to be the mentor for a team filled with a lot of young players that is expected to be a major powerhouse in the East for years to come. Me? I personally hope that next season, if he does stay, he can be a regular rotation player off the bench. His shooting and rebounding (and passing) are very valuable and difficult to replace. Even if he's a liability defensively, I don't think it's the worst thing in the world to have someone who can impact the game in a variety of ways playing 15-20 minutes a night for you.

I mean we have no backup big men so I don't really see how buying Love out is an option regardless of what JBB wants. We can't be playing Allen and Mobley all the minutes in April ahead of the playoffs. Especially Allen. I don't think anyone wants to see RoLo for 20 minutes a game.

Yeah but if he has any intention of playing Love down the road, he might want to get started on that. We have less than 30 games remaining this season and the playoffs are a month and a half away. Maybe he's waiting until the all star break and hoping that Love's thumb will be fully healed, and thus the shots will start falling again. I don't think it needs to be pointed out why it's beneficial to start playing Love ASAP if the plan is to use him regularly in the playoffs.

Kevin has a number of reason to play the good soldier for the rest of the season, I thought I covered them in the first paragraph of my reply, but if you didn't see it because I questioned if you were writing fan fiction I apologize.

We may very well have no need for Kevin the rest of the season - even to soak up backup minutes - may we be so fortunate? but GM's are paid to worry about stuff, take everything in to account, and make a decision in the best interest of the org. It's not a high bar for Kevin to honor his $33M contract with a smile on his face.

The fact Kevin breaks our defense is a big problem because defense is our identity as a team, and even if JBB has drawn a line in the sand over that one issue ... it could still be valuable to hold on to Kevin if we can facilitate him going to another team via S&T. Maybe get a package of 5 second rounders.

[TheLand13]

Fan fiction?

I mean it's one thing to accept riding the bench when your team has treated you well, is paying you $31M, plans to honor you the rest of your career, your contract will be up soon, and you will likely get the chance to try to get back to full health and show something to perhaps earn a new contract.

But on the flip side, imagine for a moment you've earned $260M in your career, you have a supermodel wife, and can literally be spending your time doing ANYTHING you want ... is that sitting on the bench cheering for the guys on a league minimum contract?

Even as a super Cavs fan like we all are, wouldn't it be more fun to just show up and sit courtside whenever you want? Perhaps enjoy some games from the owner's box? Why subject yourself to having to sit and watch the Cavs .vs. Pistons in the middle of February?

If he can't find a team willing to give him a decent contract and a decent role and he just loves the game too much to give it up, he could just sit out most of the regular season and join a contender that needs him when he feels like it. He wouldn't even be bound by the waived player playoff-roster cutoff date. He could sign as late as April 9th.

Odds are someone gets hurt before the end of the season and Kevin will get another chance to prove he has a role on this team, but if JBB would just prefer consistency over the occasional Cavalanche ... Kevin just may no longer have a role on the team.

Maybe it is fan faction.

But then I need you tell me why Cleveland is choosing not to buy out Love. You tell me why he was never traded even though there's probably some teams out there that would have wanted him. You tell me why even with Love sitting out there doing nothing, he's still actively engaged and all smiles on the sidelines being super supportive of his teammates? Everything that is going on suggests to me that Love is actually very content with his role on the team, at least right now.

Again, everything I just said started with "I think". I have no idea if that's actually the case or not. This is my attempt at trying to make sense of the situation, because I was fully expecting Love to no longer be on the team by now.

But if he wanted to be gone, they would have bought out his contract. If Cleveland wanted him gone, again, his contract would have been bought out by now. Maybe one side tried doing so and the other refused, I don't know. But right now, there are no reports coming out stating that Cleveland intends to buyout Love, or that he's interested in one. Everything seems to be pointing in the direction of him staying with the team for the remainder of the season.

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Kevin signed a small deal to stay with Cleveland after this season is over. I think (again, keep in mind I'm saying I THINK) he's content with what's going on, and has no problem continuing to be the mentor for a team filled with a lot of young players that is expected to be a major powerhouse in the East for years to come. Me? I personally hope that next season, if he does stay, he can be a regular rotation player off the bench. His shooting and rebounding (and passing) are very valuable and difficult to replace. Even if he's a liability defensively, I don't think it's the worst thing in the world to have someone who can impact the game in a variety of ways playing 15-20 minutes a night for you.

I mean we have no backup big men so I don't really see how buying Love out is an option regardless of what JBB wants. We can't be playing Allen and Mobley all the minutes in April ahead of the playoffs. Especially Allen. I don't think anyone wants to see RoLo for 20 minutes a game.

Yeah but if he has any intention of playing Love down the road, he might want to get started on that. We have less than 30 games remaining this season and the playoffs are a month and a half away. Maybe he's waiting until the all star break and hoping that Love's thumb will be fully healed, and thus the shots will start falling again. I don't think it needs to be pointed out why it's beneficial to start playing Love ASAP if the plan is to use him regularly in the playoffs.

Kevin has a number of reason to play the good soldier for the rest of the season, I thought I covered them in the first paragraph of my reply, but if you didn't see it because I questioned if you were writing fan fiction I apologize.

We may very well have no need for Kevin the rest of the season - even to soak up backup minutes - may we be so fortunate? but GM's are paid to worry about stuff, take everything in to account, and make a decision in the best interest of the org. It's not a high bar for Kevin to honor his $33M contract with a smile on his face.

The fact Kevin breaks our defense is a big problem because defense is our identity as a team, and even if JBB has drawn a line in the sand over that one issue ... it could still be valuable to hold on to Kevin if we can facilitate him going to another team via S&T. Maybe get a package of 5 second rounders.

I actually didn't read it for that very reason lol. But I just now read it and honestly, that's fair.

I am happy that, at least right now anyways, not playing Kevin isn't hurting us. In fact this is the best we've looked in months, and the first time we've had an actual winning streak in months too. I know the quality of teams hasn't been great, but the Cavaliers from earlier in the season didn't give nearly as much effort against lower end teams, and usually just coasted hoping that it would be enough to earn them a victory. They ended up losing very winnable games because of it.

I'm glad we're showing some fight. But more importantly, I'm glad we're not seeing teams completely demolish us from three even while playing good defense. The bad luck that we've been experiencing for most of the season seems to have finally worn off and teams are no longer overachieving against us.

[JonFromVA]

Maybe it is fan faction.

But then I need you tell me why Cleveland is choosing not to buy out Love. You tell me why he was never traded even though there's probably some teams out there that would have wanted him. You tell me why even with Love sitting out there doing nothing, he's still actively engaged and all smiles on the sidelines being super supportive of his teammates? Everything that is going on suggests to me that Love is actually very content with his role on the team, at least right now.

Again, everything I just said started with "I think". I have no idea if that's actually the case or not. This is my attempt at trying to make sense of the situation, because I was fully expecting Love to no longer be on the team by now.

But if he wanted to be gone, they would have bought out his contract. If Cleveland wanted him gone, again, his contract would have been bought out by now. Maybe one side tried doing so and the other refused, I don't know. But right now, there are no reports coming out stating that Cleveland intends to buyout Love, or that he's interested in one. Everything seems to be pointing in the direction of him staying with the team for the remainder of the season.

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Kevin signed a small deal to stay with Cleveland after this season is over. I think (again, keep in mind I'm saying I THINK) he's content with what's going on, and has no problem continuing to be the mentor for a team filled with a lot of young players that is expected to be a major powerhouse in the East for years to come. Me? I personally hope that next season, if he does stay, he can be a regular rotation player off the bench. His shooting and rebounding (and passing) are very valuable and difficult to replace. Even if he's a liability defensively, I don't think it's the worst thing in the world to have someone who can impact the game in a variety of ways playing 15-20 minutes a night for you.



Yeah but if he has any intention of playing Love down the road, he might want to get started on that. We have less than 30 games remaining this season and the playoffs are a month and a half away. Maybe he's waiting until the all star break and hoping that Love's thumb will be fully healed, and thus the shots will start falling again. I don't think it needs to be pointed out why it's beneficial to start playing Love ASAP if the plan is to use him regularly in the playoffs.

Kevin has a number of reason to play the good soldier for the rest of the season, I thought I covered them in the first paragraph of my reply, but if you didn't see it because I questioned if you were writing fan fiction I apologize.

We may very well have no need for Kevin the rest of the season - even to soak up backup minutes - may we be so fortunate? but GM's are paid to worry about stuff, take everything in to account, and make a decision in the best interest of the org. It's not a high bar for Kevin to honor his $33M contract with a smile on his face.

The fact Kevin breaks our defense is a big problem because defense is our identity as a team, and even if JBB has drawn a line in the sand over that one issue ... it could still be valuable to hold on to Kevin if we can facilitate him going to another team via S&T. Maybe get a package of 5 second rounders.

I actually didn't read it for that very reason lol. But I just now read it and honestly, that's fair.

I am happy that, at least right now anyways, not playing Kevin isn't hurting us. In fact this is the best we've looked in months, and the first time we've had an actual winning streak in months too. I know the quality of teams hasn't been great, but the Cavaliers from earlier in the season didn't give nearly as much effort against lower end teams, and usually just coasted hoping that it would be enough to earn them a victory. They ended up losing very winnable games because of it.

I'm glad we're showing some fight. But more importantly, I'm glad we're not seeing teams completely demolish us from three even while playing good defense. The bad luck that we've been experiencing for most of the season seems to have finally worn off and teams are no longer overachieving against us.

I really feel our defense has improved, and I can't prove this, but it makes sense that it would be difficult to keep a team giving effort and staying focused on defense when we send in players that just cause everything to break down. It may be really hard to hold Cedi's toes to the fire, while ignoring Kevin playing like a statue on the floor.

Of course it's no little thing getting Ricky and Dean back and Evan's early season ankle sprain should be far in the rear view mirror.

[ijspeelman]

I mean we have no backup big men so I don't really see how buying Love out is an option regardless of what JBB wants. We can't be playing Allen and Mobley all the minutes in April ahead of the playoffs. Especially Allen. I don't think anyone wants to see RoLo for 20 minutes a game.

Its definitely too late now, but I am surprised we didn't see IMo get more run time in actual minutes.

Not that he is some kind of hidden gem or anything, but if he was serviceable as a big man plus help guy and had the ability to shoot the three, you would think he'd get some run out with our bench lineup. Maybe he is much worse than I am giving him credit lol.

[jbk1234]

I mean we have no backup big men so I don't really see how buying Love out is an option regardless of what JBB wants. We can't be playing Allen and Mobley all the minutes in April ahead of the playoffs. Especially Allen. I don't think anyone wants to see RoLo for 20 minutes a game.

Its definitely too late now, but I am surprised we didn't see IMo get more run time in actual minutes.

Not that he is some kind of hidden gem or anything, but if he was serviceable as a big man plus help guy and had the ability to shoot the three, you would think he'd get some run out with our bench lineup. Maybe he is much worse than I am giving him credit lol.

I can't remember the last time I watched a G League guy play any type of minutes and didn't immediately think, and this is why they're in the G League.

[ijspeelman]

I mean we have no backup big men so I don't really see how buying Love out is an option regardless of what JBB wants. We can't be playing Allen and Mobley all the minutes in April ahead of the playoffs. Especially Allen. I don't think anyone wants to see RoLo for 20 minutes a game.

Its definitely too late now, but I am surprised we didn't see IMo get more run time in actual minutes.

Not that he is some kind of hidden gem or anything, but if he was serviceable as a big man plus help guy and had the ability to shoot the three, you would think he'd get some run out with our bench lineup. Maybe he is much worse than I am giving him credit lol.

I can't remember the last time I watched a G League guy play any type of minutes and didn't immediately think, and this is why they're in the G League.

IDK how we can make a judgement on 26 minutes of play on the season for IMo. Advanced stats wise, that incredibly small sample was that of a good starter. I also don't think we can take those stats at face value either lol.

In 342 minutes in the G-League, he has shot 38.2% on 3.2 attempts per 36 from three and he has a smooth 69.1% TS%. Will that all translate over to the NBA? Hell no. Have I watched a single second of his G-League defense? Hell no.

I'm just not ready to write him off personally. He's at least worth occasional run out like Diakite. I'm pretty sure EMo and IMo never touched the floor together.

[JonFromVA]

Its definitely too late now, but I am surprised we didn't see IMo get more run time in actual minutes.

Not that he is some kind of hidden gem or anything, but if he was serviceable as a big man plus help guy and had the ability to shoot the three, you would think he'd get some run out with our bench lineup. Maybe he is much worse than I am giving him credit lol.

I can't remember the last time I watched a G League guy play any type of minutes and didn't immediately think, and this is why they're in the G League.

IDK how we can make a judgement on 26 minutes of play on the season for IMo. Advanced stats wise, that incredibly small sample was that of a good starter. I also don't think we can take those stats at face value either lol.

In 342 minutes in the G-League, he has shot 38.2% on 3.2 attempts per 36 from three and he has a smooth 69.1% TS%. Will that all translate over to the NBA? Hell no. Have I watched a single second of his G-League defense? Hell no.

I'm just not ready to write him off personally. He's at least worth occasional run out like Diakite. I'm pretty sure EMo and IMo never touched the floor together.

JBB's thought process as it pertains to handing out minutes (even garbage minutes) is difficult to grasp.

[KuruptedCav]

Hard to imagine unless he loves working his ass off just to warm a bench. It'd likely be more fun to join the Lakers where defense is not a priority.

I think Love realizes that Cleveland’s future is incredibly bright and he wants to continue to be a part of the team going forward, no matter the role. Part of me also thinks he’s grown to love the city and its franchise. It’s the team that allowed him the chance to live out his dream of playing in an NBA finals (and he’s been able to play in three… and hell he even got to win one as their third option).

Love is just built different.

Fan fiction?

I mean it's one thing to accept riding the bench when your team has treated you well, is paying you $31M, plans to honor you the rest of your career, your contract will be up soon, and you will likely get the chance to try to get back to full health and show something to perhaps earn a new contract.

But on the flip side, imagine for a moment you've earned $260M in your career, you have a supermodel wife, and can literally be spending your time doing ANYTHING you want ... is that sitting on the bench cheering for the guys on a league minimum contract?

Even as a super Cavs fan like we all are, wouldn't it be more fun to just show up and sit courtside whenever you want? Perhaps enjoy some games from the owner's box? Why subject yourself to having to sit and watch the Cavs .vs. Pistons in the middle of February?

If he can't find a team willing to give him a decent contract and a decent role and he just loves the game too much to give it up, he could just sit out most of the regular season and join a contender that needs him when he feels like it. He wouldn't even be bound by the waived player playoff-roster cutoff date. He could sign as late as April 9th.

Odds are someone gets hurt before the end of the season and Kevin will get another chance to prove he has a role on this team, but if JBB would just prefer consistency over the occasional Cavalanche ... Kevin just may no longer have a role on the team.

It’s incredibly hard to walk away from something you’ve done and enjoyed for so long that it makes up a core piece of your identity.

We see a lot of players who have made a lot of money just continue. Andre Iguodala has been playing on league minimum deal despite $200+ in earnings. Vince Carter, Dirk Nowitzki.

While the farewell is nice, there’s a relief that comes when it’s taken away.


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[JujitsuFlip]

I seen you all discuss it, Woj said Cavs are gonna look into Danny Green.

[JonFromVA]

I think Love realizes that Cleveland’s future is incredibly bright and he wants to continue to be a part of the team going forward, no matter the role. Part of me also thinks he’s grown to love the city and its franchise. It’s the team that allowed him the chance to live out his dream of playing in an NBA finals (and he’s been able to play in three… and hell he even got to win one as their third option).

Love is just built different.

Fan fiction?

I mean it's one thing to accept riding the bench when your team has treated you well, is paying you $31M, plans to honor you the rest of your career, your contract will be up soon, and you will likely get the chance to try to get back to full health and show something to perhaps earn a new contract.

But on the flip side, imagine for a moment you've earned $260M in your career, you have a supermodel wife, and can literally be spending your time doing ANYTHING you want ... is that sitting on the bench cheering for the guys on a league minimum contract?

Even as a super Cavs fan like we all are, wouldn't it be more fun to just show up and sit courtside whenever you want? Perhaps enjoy some games from the owner's box? Why subject yourself to having to sit and watch the Cavs .vs. Pistons in the middle of February?

If he can't find a team willing to give him a decent contract and a decent role and he just loves the game too much to give it up, he could just sit out most of the regular season and join a contender that needs him when he feels like it. He wouldn't even be bound by the waived player playoff-roster cutoff date. He could sign as late as April 9th.

Odds are someone gets hurt before the end of the season and Kevin will get another chance to prove he has a role on this team, but if JBB would just prefer consistency over the occasional Cavalanche ... Kevin just may no longer have a role on the team.

It’s incredibly hard to walk away from something you’ve done and enjoyed for so long that it makes up a core piece of your identity.

We see a lot of players who have made a lot of money just continue. Andre Iguodala has been playing on league minimum deal despite $200+ in earnings. Vince Carter, Dirk Nowitzki.

While the farewell is nice, there’s a relief that comes when it’s taken away.


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Just doesn't sound like Kevin to me, but we shall see.

[toooskies]

Fan fiction?

I mean it's one thing to accept riding the bench when your team has treated you well, is paying you $31M, plans to honor you the rest of your career, your contract will be up soon, and you will likely get the chance to try to get back to full health and show something to perhaps earn a new contract.

But on the flip side, imagine for a moment you've earned $260M in your career, you have a supermodel wife, and can literally be spending your time doing ANYTHING you want ... is that sitting on the bench cheering for the guys on a league minimum contract?

Even as a super Cavs fan like we all are, wouldn't it be more fun to just show up and sit courtside whenever you want? Perhaps enjoy some games from the owner's box? Why subject yourself to having to sit and watch the Cavs .vs. Pistons in the middle of February?

If he can't find a team willing to give him a decent contract and a decent role and he just loves the game too much to give it up, he could just sit out most of the regular season and join a contender that needs him when he feels like it. He wouldn't even be bound by the waived player playoff-roster cutoff date. He could sign as late as April 9th.

Odds are someone gets hurt before the end of the season and Kevin will get another chance to prove he has a role on this team, but if JBB would just prefer consistency over the occasional Cavalanche ... Kevin just may no longer have a role on the team.

It’s incredibly hard to walk away from something you’ve done and enjoyed for so long that it makes up a core piece of your identity.

We see a lot of players who have made a lot of money just continue. Andre Iguodala has been playing on league minimum deal despite $200+ in earnings. Vince Carter, Dirk Nowitzki.

While the farewell is nice, there’s a relief that comes when it’s taken away.


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Just doesn't sound like Kevin to me, but we shall see.

I think he'll have a chance to do TV, especially if he retires before LeBron does.

[toooskies]

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[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

Would you guys be interested in a Poole + 2023 1st Round Pick (#19) for Jarret Allen?

[ijspeelman]

Would you guys be interested in a Poole + 2023 1st Round Pick (#19) for Jarret Allen?

We don't really need another scoring guard in the rotation and Jarrett is integral to our number one defense. Even with the pick sweetener, this is probably an easy pass.

I think the only way the Cavs even think to look to trade Allen is if they can get a near all-star level 3 and D kinda guy (Wiggins, Bridges, etc.).

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

Would you guys be interested in a Poole + 2023 1st Round Pick (#19) for Jarret Allen?

We don't really need another scoring guard in the rotation and Jarrett is integral to our number one defense. Even with the pick sweetener, this is probably an easy pass.

I think the only way the Cavs even think to look to trade Allen is if they can get a near all-star level 3 and D kinda guy (Wiggins, Bridges, etc.).

Maybe Wiggins for Jarret Allen, straight-up?

[jbk1234]

Would you guys be interested in a Poole + 2023 1st Round Pick (#19) for Jarret Allen?

We don't really need another scoring guard in the rotation and Jarrett is integral to our number one defense. Even with the pick sweetener, this is probably an easy pass.

I think the only way the Cavs even think to look to trade Allen is if they can get a near all-star level 3 and D kinda guy (Wiggins, Bridges, etc.).

Maybe Wiggins for Jarret Allen, straight-up?

Hard pass from me. Allen is instrumental to who we are as a team and what we do on the court. Also, Wight just signed a pretty big deal and then missed half a season for family reasons. Wiggins has to do whatever feels right to him, but that's not a guy I'm trading a whole lot for.

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

We don't really need another scoring guard in the rotation and Jarrett is integral to our number one defense. Even with the pick sweetener, this is probably an easy pass.

I think the only way the Cavs even think to look to trade Allen is if they can get a near all-star level 3 and D kinda guy (Wiggins, Bridges, etc.).

Maybe Wiggins for Jarret Allen, straight-up?

Hard pass from me. Allen is instrumental to who we are as a team and what we do on the court. Also, Wight just signed a pretty big deal and then missed half a season for family reasons. Wiggins has to do whatever feels right to him, but that's not a guy I'm trading a whole lot for.

Forgot we'd throw in our 2023 FRP (#19) -- if it entices the interest.

[JonFromVA]

Would you guys be interested in a Poole + 2023 1st Round Pick (#19) for Jarret Allen?

We don't really need another scoring guard in the rotation and Jarrett is integral to our number one defense. Even with the pick sweetener, this is probably an easy pass.

I think the only way the Cavs even think to look to trade Allen is if they can get a near all-star level 3 and D kinda guy (Wiggins, Bridges, etc.).

It still just creates a new roster hole, likely forces Mobley to match up with bigger players more often, disrupts the core we've been building, adds salary unless the new guy is actually paid less than Allen, and implodes our design of having two mobile bigs to protect our small backcourt.

We also need to be very careful in the player we target if we're going to spend a max spot on a SF. Someone like Mikal Bridges now sees himself as a blooming All-Star, not the guy who has to spend all his effort chasing around a super quick guard through screens to save Darius or Donovan some energy. You can bet Anunoby will be looking for an expanded scoring role with whatever team he signs with.

We need more than someone with a defensive rep and a 3pt shot, we need someone who can be effective in all the situations we'd be throwing at him because he's going to be paid too much to bench situationally.