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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1801 » by Kevin Willis » Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:32 pm

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Kevin Willis wrote:Thought - is there a Tre Mann type player in this draft? Scorer, decent shooting percentage that can play defense and is the right height and could be our role player? Ricky Council? Colby Jones? Something like that for our second round pick? First round we should do better.

There are some good options in the 31-40 range. But we gave up our 2nd round pick. Maybe we can buy one in 40s or trade but Raps haven't done this in the past. A huge mistake in my opinion.


Oh man I forgot. This was not the draft to do that, huge mistake. They need to really tank hard, trying to make the playoffs is not the way to go.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1802 » by Rapsfan07 » Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:02 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
Kevin Willis wrote:Thought - is there a Tre Mann type player in this draft? Scorer, decent shooting percentage that can play defense and is the right height and could be our role player? Ricky Council? Colby Jones? Something like that for our second round pick? First round we should do better.

There are some good options in the 31-40 range. But we gave up our 2nd round pick. Maybe we can buy one in 40s or trade but Raps haven't done this in the past. A huge mistake in my opinion.


Massive mistake. Especially for a team that is desperate for depth.

I'll be honest - I'm still in shock over that trade. Utter shock.

I'm really hoping we can buy a second or move one of our guys at the draft for some first rounders if OG still doesn't want to be here. I really like this late first round more than I usually do.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1803 » by Psubs » Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:23 pm

Undrafted? Or does he go back for his senior year? 44/43/82, 5 ast and an A/T of around 3.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/reece-beekman-1.html

He lead the ACC in steals as a sophomore.



Clutch game winning 3 as a freshman.



Clutch game winning 3 as a sophomore!

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1804 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:05 pm

My boy Marcus Sasser absolutely killing it



Dude is going to be overlooked at the draft because of his age and height. He would be an awesome piece for the Raps to bring in. He has legitimate skills that will translate to the NBA and because of his athleticism and handle I think there is some untapped potential there as a facilitator. He cleaned up his ast/to ratio a lot this year. He's part of a winning program. People are sleeping on him way too much.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1805 » by Rapsfan07 » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:40 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:My boy Marcus Sasser absolutely killing it



Dude is going to be overlooked at the draft because of his age and height. He would be an awesome piece for the Raps to bring in. He has legitimate skills that will translate to the NBA and because of his athleticism and handle I think there is some untapped potential there as a facilitator. He cleaned up his ast/to ratio a lot this year. He's part of a winning program. People are sleeping on him way too much.


I like him. I think he has the potential to be decent quality bench guard at the next level.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1806 » by bluerap23 » Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:55 am

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Boom. Raps should send me to the lottery.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1807 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:09 am

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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:My boy Marcus Sasser absolutely killing it



Dude is going to be overlooked at the draft because of his age and height. He would be an awesome piece for the Raps to bring in. He has legitimate skills that will translate to the NBA and because of his athleticism and handle I think there is some untapped potential there as a facilitator. He cleaned up his ast/to ratio a lot this year. He's part of a winning program. People are sleeping on him way too much.


I like him. I think he has the potential to be decent quality bench guard at the next level.


I think that's his floor. He has NBA player written all over him. I wouldn't rule out him having some potential to grow even as a 22 year old. I want him on the Raptors badly. People don't realize how good this kid is. He's not a 2nd rounder. He has NBA bloodlines, 2 uncles who played in the league. He is a coach's darling (UH's HC absolutely loves him) and a great team player and has leadership skills.

Last year when he averaged 2.2 steals per 31.9, opponents turned the ball over on FIFTY PERCENT of possessions where he was guarding the pick and roll.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1808 » by ATLTimekeeper » Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:57 pm

Brinbe wrote:wallace playing right now


He pulled a Kyle Lowry in this one and didn't want to shoot himself into a rhythm. Really struggled to turn the corner. He's really going to have to work on his handles to become more of a Jrue Holiday-type.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1809 » by JShuttlesworth » Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:38 pm

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Brinbe wrote:wallace playing right now


He pulled a Kyle Lowry in this one and didn't want to shoot himself into a rhythm. Really struggled to turn the corner. He's really going to have to work on his handles to become more of a Jrue Holiday-type.


Not the best game, he seems to have these every now and again. He had that really shaky stretch earlier this year against South Carolina, Tennessee, and Alabama.

But he has completely turned it around from the free throw line over the last 4 games. In the last 4 games he's 13 / 14 (92%) from the free throw line, in the 20 games before that he was 18 / 30 (60%) from the stripe (albeit on relatively low volume / small sample size).
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1810 » by Psubs » Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:51 pm

JShuttlesworth wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:
Brinbe wrote:wallace playing right now


He pulled a Kyle Lowry in this one and didn't want to shoot himself into a rhythm. Really struggled to turn the corner. He's really going to have to work on his handles to become more of a Jrue Holiday-type.


Not the best game, he seems to have these every now and again. He had that really shaky stretch earlier this year against South Carolina, Tennessee, and Alabama.

But he has completely turned it around from the free throw line over the last 4 games. In the last 4 games he's 13 / 14 (92%) from the free throw line, in the 20 games before that he was 18 / 30 (60%) from the stripe (albeit on relatively low volume / small sample size).


So right now he sounds like a lighter Marcus Smart that can shoot.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1811 » by ATLTimekeeper » Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:59 pm

Psubs wrote:
JShuttlesworth wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:
He pulled a Kyle Lowry in this one and didn't want to shoot himself into a rhythm. Really struggled to turn the corner. He's really going to have to work on his handles to become more of a Jrue Holiday-type.


Not the best game, he seems to have these every now and again. He had that really shaky stretch earlier this year against South Carolina, Tennessee, and Alabama.

But he has completely turned it around from the free throw line over the last 4 games. In the last 4 games he's 13 / 14 (92%) from the free throw line, in the 20 games before that he was 18 / 30 (60%) from the stripe (albeit on relatively low volume / small sample size).


So right now he sounds like a lighter Marcus Smart that can shoot.


He's a lot more of a lead guard than Marcus Smart. Smart was actually a hell of a college player, but he was always flawed because he just threw the ball away, ran into guys with his head down and had poor ball skills. I remember someone on here thought he was the next DWade :lol:

Wallace is closer to Jrue Holiday, imo. He probably won't be all that efficient but he won't make consistent bonehead plays.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1812 » by C-R-E-A-M- » Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:16 pm

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1813 » by Psubs » Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:18 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:
Psubs wrote:
JShuttlesworth wrote:
Not the best game, he seems to have these every now and again. He had that really shaky stretch earlier this year against South Carolina, Tennessee, and Alabama.

But he has completely turned it around from the free throw line over the last 4 games. In the last 4 games he's 13 / 14 (92%) from the free throw line, in the 20 games before that he was 18 / 30 (60%) from the stripe (albeit on relatively low volume / small sample size).


So right now he sounds like a lighter Marcus Smart that can shoot.


He's a lot more of a lead guard than Marcus Smart. Smart was actually a hell of a college player, but he was always flawed because he just threw the ball away, ran into guys with his head down and had poor ball skills. I remember someone on here thought he was the next DWade :lol:

Wallace is closer to Jrue Holiday, imo. He probably won't be all that efficient but he won't make consistent bonehead plays.


Cool cool. Even if some of the players turn into a Paul George or Precious that can shoot, I think Cason Wallace is the best fit to make this team a contender. I mean like is Keyonte George gonna be like a taller Colin Sexton? Would that improve this team more than just keeping Gary Trent Jr? I think being a point of attack defender and distributor that can hit 3's would do wonders.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1814 » by Psubs » Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:26 pm

C-R-E-A-M- wrote:;ab_channel=TheScoutingRapport


Home loss to an equal opponent. Really helter-skelter, but shot well this game but his misses were huge BRICKS!

Seems like a SG at this point.
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Post#1815 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Feb 12, 2023 6:08 pm

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C-R-E-A-M- wrote:;ab_channel=TheScoutingRapport


Home loss to an equal opponent. Really helter-skelter, but shot well this game but his misses were huge BRICKS!

Seems like a SG at this point.


Nah. He's the lead ball handler on any team drafting him. Playing him at shooting guard is a big mistake.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1816 » by Psubs » Sun Feb 12, 2023 6:15 pm

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Psubs wrote:
C-R-E-A-M- wrote:;ab_channel=TheScoutingRapport


Home loss to an equal opponent. Really helter-skelter, but shot well this game but his misses were huge BRICKS!

Seems like a SG at this point.


Nah. He's the lead ball handler on any team drafting him. Playing him at shooting guard is a big mistake.


Do you think he could be a bouncier Josh Giddey?
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Post#1817 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:30 pm

Psubs wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
Psubs wrote:
Home loss to an equal opponent. Really helter-skelter, but shot well this game but his misses were huge BRICKS!

Seems like a SG at this point.


Nah. He's the lead ball handler on any team drafting him. Playing him at shooting guard is a big mistake.


Do you think he could be a bouncier Josh Giddey?


I think Giddey is better offensively, and Black is better defensively. I'd probably prefer to compare Black to LAC Shaun Livingston with less flare.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1818 » by Rapsfan07 » Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:24 pm

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Psubs wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
Nah. He's the lead ball handler on any team drafting him. Playing him at shooting guard is a big mistake.


Do you think he could be a bouncier Josh Giddey?


I think Giddey is better offensively, and Black is better defensively. I'd probably prefer to compare Black to LAC Shaun Livingston with less flare.


I'd agree.
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Post#1819 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:03 pm

There's almost nothing this guy doesn't bring to the table that Fred or Gary do. Tenacious defender, better handle than both, better finisher at the rim, better ability to create in ISO, better athleticism and stamina/sustained intensity through all 4 quarters. His 2ptfg% is at his college career high at .504 this year.

This is the best reel of his overall play from last year. He makes his presence felt on the court at all moments.

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Post#1820 » by Mark_83 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:15 am

Can anyone who watches Xavier comment on Colby Jones' defense? He looks interesting in the highlights. Kind of like a Malcolm Brogdon type of combo guard, but Masai doesn't take players who can't or won't defend.

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