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Post#81 » by Lachiebkn » Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:37 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Bridges>Ingram in my view.

Ingram always hurt and terrible on defense.


Tidbit I just heard was yesterdays game for the nets was the first bridges has missed in the nba.
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Post#82 » by TheNetsFan » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:04 am

Lachiebkn wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Bridges>Ingram in my view.

Ingram always hurt and terrible on defense.


Tidbit I just heard was yesterdays game for the nets was the first bridges has missed in the nba.

But it won't affect his streak, because Phoenix has played more games than we have. Even with that missed game, if he's able to play tomorrow and the rest of the season, he will have played 83 regular season games this year (which I guess is legal). He's played 56 and we have 27 left.
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Post#83 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:17 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Bridges>Ingram in my view.

Ingram always hurt and terrible on defense.


Ingram looks like he starts his day by smoking 5 blunts to the face
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Post#84 » by CalamityX12 » Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:47 am

How's that buyout market looking?
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Post#85 » by Sharcm1 » Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:57 am

Ibaka would be a good pick up
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Post#86 » by TheNetsFan » Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:11 pm

Sharcm1 wrote:Ibaka would be a good pick up

No, he would be terrible. That's a Friend of Kevin move you make to appease him for a bit. Ibaka is washed. We should be searching high and low for that next young diamond in the rough to see if we can find someone worth locking into a multiple year minimum deal. There's no reason to bring over the hill guys in now. Evaluate the young and new guys and build with an eye to the near future.
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Post#87 » by Netaman » Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:27 pm

Some thoughts on rotation after game 1:

- There's a clear top 4 with bridges, cj, dinwiddie, claxton
- I don't think it matters a ton who gets 'the start' as the 5th guy, but Cam T needs to be given enough minutes to get a shot in the close out lineup with that group. or maybe curry is that guy when he gets back healthy?
- In matchups against bigger teams i dont mind starting DFS and then against more guard heavy teams either oneale or cam
- nice to see Harris seemingly confident again
- sharpe and simmons gave some decent minutes

juggling enough time for dfs/royce is going to be the challenge, especially if they effectively get cam t enough minutes. 1 of them seems destined to get moved in the summer. just not enough minutes for overlapping skillsets (not to mention yuta).

knicks game should be a good test with some interesting games within the game.
brunson and royce have history going back to the playoffs last year but brunson lit up that series.
dinwiddie and brunson shared a backcourt together.
dfs and brunson were teammates in dallas so he knows his game, but not sure that's a great matchup for dfs.
bridges and brunson were teammates in college and bridges/cj defended brunson occassionally in the playoffs last year, though he got a lot of coverage from cp3/booker with luka drawing the better defenders.

i think id start the same group as philly with bridges starting on brunson and DFS starting on Randle. that lets dinwiddie take grimes and cj can take rj.

making life miserable for the knicks on the defensive end would be a real nice way to get this new group their first win.
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Post#88 » by Karate Diop » Sun Feb 12, 2023 6:13 pm

What really irks me about Harden and Kyrie trying to pass the blame 100% to the Nets for this whole disaster, other than their obvious roles in this not working out, is that the Nets were widely lauded by players for their treatment of players and their families prior to their arrival... It is complete revisionist history to try and make the Nets out to be some sort of player hating off the rails organization with problems galore.

There's no Phoenix Suns, LA Clippers style smoking gun here... Hell there's not even a Mavericks or Celtics style work environment issue... Like cod damn bro, take some accountability for your actions.
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Post#89 » by NetsWorld » Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:08 pm

The 2023 off-season will be telling in terms of the Nets direction. While many have criticized Tsai for lowering the tax threshold, this could also be an indication they want to execute a sign and trade for a player this Summer. I feel we may covet a PG and a big. I got my eyes on the 25 FA
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Post#90 » by Keith Van Horn » Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:16 pm

Karate Diop wrote:What really irks me about Harden and Kyrie trying to pass the blame 100% to the Nets for this whole disaster, other than their obvious roles in this not working out, is that the Nets were widely lauded by players for their treatment of players and their families prior to their arrival... It is complete revisionist history to try and make the Nets out to be some sort of player hating off the rails organization with problems galore.

There's no Phoenix Suns, LA Clippers style smoking gun here... Hell there's not even a Mavericks or Celtics style work environment issue... Like cod damn bro, take some accountability for your actions.

amen.

Hopefully people, fans, organizations, and most importantly, other players, eventually see through their bull and lies as time goes on. We better not hear KD say anything because this team bent over backwards for him (to a flaw)

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Post#91 » by collidingNeurons » Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:43 pm

Lachiebkn wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Bridges>Ingram in my view.

Ingram always hurt and terrible on defense.


Tidbit I just heard was yesterdays game for the nets was the first bridges has missed in the nba.

not only has he never missed an NBA game in his career he never missed a game in his two years at Villanova
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Post#92 » by Shark » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:19 am

Karate Diop wrote:What really irks me about Harden and Kyrie trying to pass the blame 100% to the Nets for this whole disaster, other than their obvious roles in this not working out, is that the Nets were widely lauded by players for their treatment of players and their families prior to their arrival... It is complete revisionist history to try and make the Nets out to be some sort of player hating off the rails organization with problems galore.

There's no Phoenix Suns, LA Clippers style smoking gun here... Hell there's not even a Mavericks or Celtics style work environment issue... Like cod damn bro, take some accountability for your actions.

Kyrie in particular showed his hand when he talked about wanting to leave after just one season. What "behind the scenes" stuff happened that season? He's talking about the season that the Nets brass let KD take his time coming back from a serious injury even though it'd shorten the championship window? He's talking about the season when they gave both he and KD the option to sit out the bubble playoffs?

Really the only thing that happened that might of upset them is that Jordan was falling out of favor with Kenny, but that was a result of his play on the court. The fact that the organization not only bent backwards to sign Jordan to a contract way larger than what any other team would have offered him, but also ended up firing Kenny to placate them really just shows how much of a self absorbed **** Kyrie is. He really thinks that saying he wanted to leave after one season was going to put him in good light.
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Post#93 » by sashaturiaf » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:33 am

Karate Diop wrote:What really irks me about Harden and Kyrie trying to pass the blame 100% to the Nets for this whole disaster, other than their obvious roles in this not working out, is that the Nets were widely lauded by players for their treatment of players and their families prior to their arrival... It is complete revisionist history to try and make the Nets out to be some sort of player hating off the rails organization with problems galore.

There's no Phoenix Suns, LA Clippers style smoking gun here... Hell there's not even a Mavericks or Celtics style work environment issue... Like cod damn bro, take some accountability for your actions.


That's a reflection of the times we're in. 29/30 teams will sell their souls for 3 superstars of KD/Kyrie/Harden's caliber. That means the boss is making money + you have a chance to contend, it's hitting the jackpot in NBA terms. I'm only saying 29 because I think Pat Riley is too old for this ****, please he's burned out from managing the Heatles.


I know we don't like Kyrie and Harden here, but we shouldn't ignore what they said on the way out. The Nets organisation has a stink over it right now, and it doesn't bode well for our chances of picking up and keeping future stars. All this because our owner can't control his ego when it counted.

Whatever, I'm ready to support Mikal and the young guns but it doesn't mean I don't think Tsai is the worst owner in the league and he turned a plate of lobster in his hands into treadmill flavored mystery meat hot dogs cus of his ego.
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Post#94 » by brook » Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:55 pm

Can I suggest Goga Bitadze for the 15th spot? He was released by the Pacers. He's almost 24 years so still young and shows some flashes during the years.
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Post#95 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:56 pm

I do think that Joe Tsai's meddling is an issue. He needs to fall back.

However, Harden and Kyrie are trying to muddy the waters. Harden came into camp out of shape and quit on the team. What he says needs to be taken with a grain of salt, and we already know how much of a gas lighting POS that Kyrie is.
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Post#96 » by TheNetsFan » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:01 pm

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Karate Diop wrote:What really irks me about Harden and Kyrie trying to pass the blame 100% to the Nets for this whole disaster, other than their obvious roles in this not working out, is that the Nets were widely lauded by players for their treatment of players and their families prior to their arrival... It is complete revisionist history to try and make the Nets out to be some sort of player hating off the rails organization with problems galore.

There's no Phoenix Suns, LA Clippers style smoking gun here... Hell there's not even a Mavericks or Celtics style work environment issue... Like cod damn bro, take some accountability for your actions.

Kyrie in particular showed his hand when he talked about wanting to leave after just one season. What "behind the scenes" stuff happened that season? He's talking about the season that the Nets brass let KD take his time coming back from a serious injury even though it'd shorten the championship window? He's talking about the season when they gave both he and KD the option to sit out the bubble playoffs?

Really the only thing that happened that might of upset them is that Jordan was falling out of favor with Kenny, but that was a result of his play on the court. The fact that the organization not only bent backwards to sign Jordan to a contract way larger than what any other team would have offered him, but also ended up firing Kenny to placate them really just shows how much of a self absorbed **** Kyrie is. He really thinks that saying he wanted to leave after one season was going to put him in good light.

I feel like Harden was quietly pointing at Kyrie as the issue with his comments. "I'm not the crazy one." I think he realized that Kyrie & the organization were butting heads, KD had Kyrie's back & that is was all going to end badly, because Kyrie is a tantrum throwing arsonist.
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Post#97 » by TheNetsFan » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:03 pm

brook wrote:Can I suggest Goga Bitadze for the 15th spot? He was released by the Pacers. He's almost 24 years so still young and shows some flashes during the years.

He must have cleared waivers by now (unless the weekend doesn't count). If he's not claimed, he's worth a look, but honestly I don't expect him or anybody else getting much PT.
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Post#98 » by Netaman » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:07 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:I do think that Joe Tsai's meddling is an issue. He needs to fall back.

However, Harden and Kyrie are trying to muddy the waters. Harden came into camp out of shape and quit on the team. What he says needs to be taken with a grain of salt, and we already know how much of a gas lighting POS that Kyrie is.


KD aside there's a reason why the other 2 have perennially underachieved.

Once Kyrie was away from Lebron all he's done is miss games and blow up locker rooms. Even with Lebron he missed time and caused drama, Lebron was just good enough to still carry the franchise (not unlike KD here).

Harden was a notorious playoff underachiever and at the time of the deal an out of shape malcontent. He's less of a malcontent than Kyrie but that's like being the tallest midget. There are still rumors he bails on Philly lurking out there.

If KD picked better friends here he'd have won at least 1 championship and he'd still be here. Hopefully for his sake he chose better this time and Booker and co come through for him in phoenix.
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Post#99 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:31 pm

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Post#100 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:33 pm

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Shark wrote:
Karate Diop wrote:What really irks me about Harden and Kyrie trying to pass the blame 100% to the Nets for this whole disaster, other than their obvious roles in this not working out, is that the Nets were widely lauded by players for their treatment of players and their families prior to their arrival... It is complete revisionist history to try and make the Nets out to be some sort of player hating off the rails organization with problems galore.

There's no Phoenix Suns, LA Clippers style smoking gun here... Hell there's not even a Mavericks or Celtics style work environment issue... Like cod damn bro, take some accountability for your actions.

Kyrie in particular showed his hand when he talked about wanting to leave after just one season. What "behind the scenes" stuff happened that season? He's talking about the season that the Nets brass let KD take his time coming back from a serious injury even though it'd shorten the championship window? He's talking about the season when they gave both he and KD the option to sit out the bubble playoffs?

Really the only thing that happened that might of upset them is that Jordan was falling out of favor with Kenny, but that was a result of his play on the court. The fact that the organization not only bent backwards to sign Jordan to a contract way larger than what any other team would have offered him, but also ended up firing Kenny to placate them really just shows how much of a self absorbed **** Kyrie is. He really thinks that saying he wanted to leave after one season was going to put him in good light.

I feel like Harden was quietly pointing at Kyrie as the issue with his comments. "I'm not the crazy one." I think he realized that Kyrie & the organization were butting heads, KD had Kyrie's back & that is was all going to end badly, because Kyrie is a tantrum throwing arsonist.


I definitely think that was a shot at Kyrie too.

Again. I have no problem with Harden wanting to bail. I don't blame him. But he is not an innocent bystander
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