Official Liverpool FC Thread II

SgtPepper · Post #241 » by **SgtPepper** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:28 pm

If that's all it took Chelsea would have been league champions at least 3 more times in the last 5 years. Even the year Pool won the league wasn't a high spend season.

The truth is Liverpool went from very efficient transfers and squad design to pretty stupid ones in the last 3 seasons. With the exception of Thiago no one brought in became a regular starter. Some of it can be forgiven because they optimized for the 1st league run in 19-20, but the failures after have to be attributed to the club. The rapid striker buys especially have been horrible and seem to have compromised the breakouts of Jota and Diaz. Liverpool's foreigner quota are eaten up, so the club's ability to change things through clinical transfers is limited to 1 in the coming summer.

Baseline81 · Post #242 » by **Baseline81** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:33 pm

May have found something special in the 18-year old, Stefan Bajcetic.

Baseline81 · Post #243 » by **Baseline81** » Fri Mar 3, 2023 4:32 pm

It didn't quite sink in when Mane left, but with Firmino going...

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Baseline81 · Post #244 » by **Baseline81** » Sun Mar 5, 2023 7:36 pm

Takes some of the sting out of this season.

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Baseline81 · Post #245 » by **Baseline81** » Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:05 pm

Really glad Liverpool threw an entire season down the drain waiting for a specific midfield target (Jude Bellingham), refusing to compromise on alternatives, only to decide they cannot afford him anyway, when everyone knew he’d cost a huge amount of money all along.

The justification that “Liverpool realized they need to spread the funds on several midfielders” is just nonsensical. They created this ridiculous scenario for themselves by repeatedly refusing to address the glaring issue for multiple transfer windows.

MetalFingaz · Post #246 » by **MetalFingaz** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:31 pm

Baseline81 wrote:Really glad Liverpool threw an entire season down the drain waiting for a specific midfield target (Jude Bellingham), refusing to compromise on alternatives, only to decide they cannot afford him anyway, when everyone knew he’d cost a huge amount of money all along.

The justification that “Liverpool realized they need to spread the funds on several midfielders” is just nonsensical. They created this ridiculous scenario for themselves by repeatedly refusing to address the glaring issue for multiple transfer windows.

To say nothing of the poor business they have done in the midfield, with Keita and (perhaps controversially) Thiago not being fit and not being good enough when they are.

SgtPepper · Post #247 » by **SgtPepper** » Fri May 12, 2023 9:24 pm

Baseline81 wrote:Really glad Liverpool threw an entire season down the drain waiting for a specific midfield target (Jude Bellingham), refusing to compromise on alternatives, only to decide they cannot afford him anyway, when everyone knew he’d cost a huge amount of money all along.

The justification that “Liverpool realized they need to spread the funds on several midfielders” is just nonsensical. They created this ridiculous scenario for themselves by repeatedly refusing to address the glaring issue for multiple transfer windows.

If it's any consolation, Bellingham's profile is not a very additive fit for Madrid so if goes thru I expect him to fall short of the hype. It's similar to the Grealish or Hazard transfers IMO - great players but joined teams already strong in their strengths and weak in their weaknesses so marginally the team doesn't improve much if at all.

HIF · Post #248 » by **HIF** » Sat May 13, 2023 12:46 pm

If Liverpool would kindly lose on Monday, I'll cheer them on for the rest of the season.

Baseline81 · Post #249 » by **Baseline81** » Sat May 13, 2023 11:24 pm

HIF wrote:If Liverpool would kindly lose on Monday, I'll cheer them on for the rest of the season.

No, you lot need to take care of your business the following week at Newcastle.

HIF · Post #250 » by **HIF** » Sun May 14, 2023 12:54 pm

Baseline81 wrote:
HIF wrote:If Liverpool would kindly lose on Monday, I'll cheer them on for the rest of the season.

No, you lot need to take care of your business the following week at Newcastle.

We can't even beat Leeds and Everton. If the game isn't handed to us we have no chance.

HIF · Post #251 » by **HIF** » Mon May 15, 2023 12:38 pm

Losing to us today could possibly help to relegate Everton. Isn't that reason enough?

Baseline81 · Post #252 » by **Baseline81** » Mon May 15, 2023 9:51 pm

HIF wrote:Losing to us today could possibly help to relegate Everton. Isn't that reason enough?

Sorry, but it had to be done. When an animal is wounded, best to put it down. I only wish the score was greater in Liverpool's favor.

MetalFingaz · Post #253 » by **MetalFingaz** » Mon May 15, 2023 10:20 pm

Lovely display from Curtis today.

Post #254 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon May 15, 2023 11:39 pm

HIF wrote:If Liverpool would kindly lose on Monday, I'll cheer them on for the rest of the season.

What an odd year this has been. Leicester fighting relegation.

HIF · Post #255 » by **HIF** » Tue May 16, 2023 7:34 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
HIF wrote:If Liverpool would kindly lose on Monday, I'll cheer them on for the rest of the season.

What an odd year this has been. Leicester fighting relegation.

If only "fighting" was the correct verb. We sleepwalked to relegation. All season the players have thought they were too skilled to be relegated and the results would sort themselves without the effort. Now the chickens have come home to roost.

Post #256 » by **Cactus Jack** » Tue May 16, 2023 7:41 am

HIF wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
HIF wrote:If Liverpool would kindly lose on Monday, I'll cheer them on for the rest of the season.

What an odd year this has been. Leicester fighting relegation.

If only "fighting" was the correct verb. We sleepwalked to relegation. All season the players have thought they were too skilled to be relegated and the results would sort themselves without the effort. Now the chickens have come home to roost.

Sorry, I gave up on this season halfway through, with the way things were trending for us. I needed to take a step back for my own sanity lol. So I'm completely in the dark in regards to your club.

danfantastk32 · Post #257 » by **danfantastk32** » Wed May 17, 2023 11:15 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
HIF wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:What an odd year this has been. Leicester fighting relegation.

If only "fighting" was the correct verb. We sleepwalked to relegation. All season the players have thought they were too skilled to be relegated and the results would sort themselves without the effort. Now the chickens have come home to roost.

Sorry, I gave up on this season halfway through, with the way things were trending for us. I needed to take a step back for my own sanity lol. So I'm completely in the dark in regards to your club.

Hey Cactus. Hope everything is well.

I took the whole year off. Knew we'd be sorry to let Mane go. But even more so, after watching Man City hoist the title (yet again) and go sign the top striker in the world to add 3 cherries on top of the whipped cream, I knew this season was a foregone conclusion. Had this rant at the end of last year....but until this league figures out how to be competitive again, I'm out.

HIF...sorry to see your boys down at the bottom. I know you love your team, and my heart goes out to ya. Hopefully they can pull off some miracle here in the last couple games.

Post #258 » by **Cactus Jack** » Thu May 18, 2023 12:25 am

danfantastk32 wrote:Hey Cactus. Hope everything is well.

I took the whole year off. Knew we'd be sorry to let Mane go. But even more so, after watching Man City hoist the title (yet again) and go sign the top striker in the world to add 3 cherries on top of the whipped cream, I knew this season was a foregone conclusion. Had this rant at the end of last year....but until this league figures out how to be competitive again, I'm out.

HIF...sorry to see your boys down at the bottom. I know you love your team, and my heart goes out to ya. Hopefully they can pull off some miracle here in the last couple games.

I hear ya!

Seeing the same result every year does get old. I'm also so grateful for Klopp & what he has accomplished at LFC. He's really done a remarkable job.

It's why I love the NFL. Small market teams & fans always have hope. It's so unpredictable each year.

I'm not a huge Hockey fan. But the NHL has a good amount of parity as well.

Baseline81 · Post #259 » by **Baseline81** » Thu May 18, 2023 2:06 am

danfantastk32 wrote:Hey Cactus. Hope everything is well.

I took the whole year off. Knew we'd be sorry to let Mane go. But even more so, after watching Man City hoist the title (yet again) and go sign the top striker in the world to add 3 cherries on top of the whipped cream, I knew this season was a foregone conclusion. Had this rant at the end of last year....but until this league figures out how to be competitive again, I'm out.

HIF...sorry to see your boys down at the bottom. I know you love your team, and my heart goes out to ya. Hopefully they can pull off some miracle here in the last couple games.

Sorry to jump in on this conversation.

What irks me the most is how slow the PL process is for the investigations against Manchester City (charged with breaking financial fair play rules around 100 times over a nine-year period, which starts in 2009 and goes on until 2018) and Everton (alleged breach of the league’s profit and sustainability rules during the period ending in the 2021/22 season).

SgtPepper · Post #260 » by **SgtPepper** » Fri May 19, 2023 5:59 pm

danfantastk32 wrote: But even more so, after watching Man City hoist the title (yet again) and go sign the top striker in the world to add 3 cherries on top of the whipped cream, I knew this season was a foregone conclusion. Had this rant at the end of last year....but until this league figures out how to be competitive again, I'm out.

If anything the league has been too competitive this year. There's a lot of churn in the top 6, relegation, midtable.
City's dominance is not a great example of the league being uncompetitive. With the exception of Grealish they've made excellent squad buys consistently over the Pep years. This summer they bought 2 strikers who were both better than Madrid and Bayern's strikers at a period where there's a real dearth in quality of the position.
Also it's not the league's fault Klopp tried to bail the club out with 3 expensive striker buys rather than committing half the budget of one of them for a world class midfielder (which there are many of currently in the market) instead. Klopp's Liverpool midfield has always been it's weakness.