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2023 NFL Draft Thread - Round 1 Thursday 7:00 PM

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Post#201 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:40 pm

TroyD92 wrote:So if they get the 7th pick for Rodgers who’s the guy there ?


I think Young, Stroud, Levis, Anderson, and Carter are gone. Tyree Wilson maybe. That would leave the Packers in a very interesting spot. Anthony Richardson is the only remaining franchise type QB prospect remaining. If and when he blows up in workouts, some team may talk themselves into him. The Packers would be prime trade down candidates.
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Post#202 » by Cactus Jack » Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:21 pm

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TroyD92 wrote:So if they get the 7th pick for Rodgers who’s the guy there ?


I think Young, Stroud, Levis, Anderson, and Carter are gone. Tyree Wilson maybe. That would leave the Packers in a very interesting spot. Anthony Richardson is the only remaining franchise type QB prospect remaining. If and when he blows up in workouts, some team may talk themselves into him. The Packers would be prime trade down candidates.

Assuming Young, Carter, Anderson & Stroud go within the first 4 picks. Wilson will be taken with the 5th pick.

So that leaves Detroit at 6 deciding between Myles Murphy, Levis, Richardson & the CB's. I don't think Murphy will be viewed that highly. You can make a legit case that Bijan is a top 5 talent. But would the Lions take a RB at 6?
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Post#203 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:00 pm

Robinson becomes an interesting option if/when we get two picks in the Top-15. Clearly the best RB prospect since Saquon and I think you can easily make the case that he's a Top-5 talent in this draft. Just depends on how long much longer shelf life you think Jones has (I'm assuming this is his last season in GB), and how high the organization is on Dillon as your future RB #1.
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Post#204 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:08 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Robinson becomes an interesting option if/when we get two picks in the Top-15. Clearly the best RB prospect since Saquon and I think you can easily make the case that he's a Top-5 talent in this draft. Just depends on how long much longer shelf life you think Jones has (I'm assuming this is his last season in GB), and how high the organization is on Dillon as your future RB #1.


I don't think Dillon gets a second contract here.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion 

Post#205 » by Profound23 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:19 pm

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TroyD92 wrote:So if they get the 7th pick for Rodgers who’s the guy there ?


I think Young, Stroud, Levis, Anderson, and Carter are gone. Tyree Wilson maybe. That would leave the Packers in a very interesting spot. Anthony Richardson is the only remaining franchise type QB prospect remaining. If and when he blows up in workouts, some team may talk themselves into him. The Packers would be prime trade down candidates.

Assuming Young, Carter, Anderson & Stroud go within the first 4 picks. Wilson will be taken with the 5th pick.

So that leaves Detroit at 6 deciding between Myles Murphy, Levis, Richardson & the CB's. I don't think Murphy will be viewed that highly. You can make a legit case that Bijan is a top 5 talent. But would the Lions take a RB at 6?



We need to draft dline and oline.

If we can get the 7th pick for Rodgers then I say trade up for Jalen Carter or Will Anderson. One of them will definitely be there at 3 and possibly 4 or 5. But both will be gone by 7.
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Post#206 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:36 pm

I love Will Anderson but I don't think it's worth trading up to get an edge in this draft.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft Discussion 

Post#207 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:02 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Assuming Young, Carter, Anderson & Stroud go within the first 4 picks. Wilson will be taken with the 5th pick.

So that leaves Detroit at 6 deciding between Myles Murphy, Levis, Richardson & the CB's. I don't think Murphy will be viewed that highly. You can make a legit case that Bijan is a top 5 talent. But would the Lions take a RB at 6?

We need to draft dline and oline.

If we can get the 7th pick for Rodgers then I say trade up for Jalen Carter or Will Anderson. One of them will definitely be there at 3 and possibly 4 or 5. But both will be gone by 7.

As we get to the combine & closer to the draft, the consensus top 3 D-lineman will be Carter, Anderson & Wilson. All three guys will go within the first 5 picks. Myles Murphy isn't a top 10 talent. Bryan Bresee is a mid-late 1st rounder at best. The value simply won't be there after the first 3 guys are taken.

Skoronski is a guard. It's not a great year for O-line.

Quentin Johnston might be the way to go. But taking him with the 7th pick might be a bit of a reach.
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Post#208 » by Profound23 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:12 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Assuming Young, Carter, Anderson & Stroud go within the first 4 picks. Wilson will be taken with the 5th pick.

So that leaves Detroit at 6 deciding between Myles Murphy, Levis, Richardson & the CB's. I don't think Murphy will be viewed that highly. You can make a legit case that Bijan is a top 5 talent. But would the Lions take a RB at 6?

We need to draft dline and oline.

If we can get the 7th pick for Rodgers then I say trade up for Jalen Carter or Will Anderson. One of them will definitely be there at 3 and possibly 4 or 5. But both will be gone by 7.

As we get to the combine & closer to the draft, the consensus top 3 D-lineman will be Carter, Anderson & Wilson. All three guys will go within the first 5 picks. Myles Murphy isn't a top 10 talent. Bryan Bresee is a mid-late 1st rounder at best. The value simply won't be there after the first 3 guys are taken.

Skoronski is a guard. Quentin Johnston might be the way to go. But taking him with the 7th pick might be a reach.


Yeah, that is why I believe if we are able to trade Rodgers for the #7 pick (and other picks ranging from a 2nd this year to a 1st next year) then I just trade those picks to move up for Carter or Anderson.

Use the #15 pick on Oline.

We might want to get a new center IN THE LATER ROUNDS because it looked like Josh Myers regressed this year.
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Post#209 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:31 pm

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Profound23 wrote:We need to draft dline and oline.

If we can get the 7th pick for Rodgers then I say trade up for Jalen Carter or Will Anderson. One of them will definitely be there at 3 and possibly 4 or 5. But both will be gone by 7.

As we get to the combine & closer to the draft, the consensus top 3 D-lineman will be Carter, Anderson & Wilson. All three guys will go within the first 5 picks. Myles Murphy isn't a top 10 talent. Bryan Bresee is a mid-late 1st rounder at best. The value simply won't be there after the first 3 guys are taken.

Skoronski is a guard. Quentin Johnston might be the way to go. But taking him with the 7th pick might be a reach.


Yeah, that is why I believe if we are able to trade Rodgers for the #7 pick (and other picks ranging from a 2nd this year to a 1st next year) then I just trade those picks to move up for Carter or Anderson.

Use the #15 pick on Oline.

We might want to get a new center IN THE LATER ROUNDS because it looked like Josh Myers regressed this year.

Honestly, in that situation I would look to trade down. I don't think either guy is worth giving up a haul.

I actually don't think the 7th pick holds that much value this year compared to most drafts. Unfortunately. So I would look to trade down & accumulate picks.
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Post#210 » by Matches Malone » Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:25 am

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Post#211 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:39 am

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That's kind of the easiest thing in the world to say at this point. It's the easiest position in the league to fill. Like there's part of me that thinks Robinson would be a nice dude to have for a young QB. Then I remind myself that his backup would probably be fine if you gave him 13 carries a game.
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Post#212 » by Profound23 » Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:24 pm

Man Jalen Carter, Kenny Clark, and Wyatt up front would make this defense elite. If there is any way we can trade up for him I am doing it.

If I can basically flip the picks received for Aaron Rodgers into Jalen Carter that is an easy yes for me.
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That's kind of the easiest thing in the world to say at this point. It's the easiest position in the league to fill. Like there's part of me that thinks Robinson would be a nice dude to have for a young QB. Then I remind myself that his backup would probably be fine if you gave him 13 carries a game.



Doesn't make his point any less important. You can find RBs throughout the draft. Taking one in the top 15 picks is just a bad draft strategy (even if you have multiple 1's), especially when you're a young team that needs talent across the board. Bijan will probably get overdrafted, still be very good, but don't think it's necessarily a priority to fix that on Day 1 of the draft.
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Post#214 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:06 pm

I've always been of the philosophy that you don't draft RB's super high, but I'm more willing to make an exception if given the following of A) I have a cheap, young QB I want to surround with as many play-makers as possible, and B) The guy is a legit, once-every-5-years kind of RB talent/prospect. All depends on how special you think Robinson is.
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Post#215 » by jakecronus8 » Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:05 pm

Kind of a whack year to have a top pick unless you need a QB. Even there, I don’t see a ton of mega upside guys that you hope to be franchise changers when you take someone in the top 5-10.

My hope would be that if Green Bay ends up with the 7 pick, there’s a run on QBs (Young, Levis, Stroud, Richardson, and maybe even a r2 guy jumps up that someone falls in love with)

Ideal would be a bad combine drops someone like Carter to within striking range to trade up or Anderson falls.

If not, I can’t fault them for taking the upside of a Bijon, despite the perceived value of RBs. LaFleur would love him and a revamped running game takes the pressure off of Jordecai.

Also can never fault a team for going Oline. The game is won in the trenches.

Best scenario though would be raking someone over the coals in a trade down.
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Post#216 » by TroyD92 » Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:19 pm

Myles Murphy seems like a Packers guy. Crazy measurables similar to Gary
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Post#217 » by Profound23 » Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:40 pm

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That's kind of the easiest thing in the world to say at this point. It's the easiest position in the league to fill. Like there's part of me that thinks Robinson would be a nice dude to have for a young QB. Then I remind myself that his backup would probably be fine if you gave him 13 carries a game.



Doesn't make his point any less important. You can find RBs throughout the draft. Taking one in the top 15 picks is just a bad draft strategy (even if you have multiple 1's), especially when you're a young team that needs talent across the board. Bijan will probably get overdrafted, still be very good, but don't think it's necessarily a priority to fix that on Day 1 of the draft.


I agree with the exception of the greats.

If we landed a Barry Sanders/AP type of RB then it makes it worth it.....but those are so hard to find and they usually don't stay healthy for too long. Only way we draft a RB that high is we cut or trade Aaron Jones and that would drive a lot of fans mad.

What is crazy is I remember watching Bijan against BAMA and saying "he reminds me of a mix of Aaron Jones/AJ Dillon." Then again so does Pacheco (except Pacheco appears faster) and he went in the 7th round which feeds into your theory.
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Post#218 » by Profound23 » Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:45 pm

TroyD92 wrote:Myles Murphy seems like a Packers guy. Crazy measurables similar to Gary


His highlights are nice....the one where he caught Zay Flowers from behind was unreal.

He split the blockers, found the perfect angle and made what would have been a huge play into negative yardage.

Would not hate that pick at 15 at all.
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Post#219 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:54 pm

I think, with a trade or two, the Packers could go along ways towards rebuilding their offense around a power vertical running game. Invest in a couple offensive linemen, and a couple tight ends.

Total fantasy mock but I moved Rodgers to the Raiders, then traded down. Can you imagine what the Packers would look like if they decided next season they were going to smash teams on the ground, work the middle of the field with a pair of weapons at TE, and hit deep bombs on play action?

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Post#220 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:55 pm

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TroyD92 wrote:Myles Murphy seems like a Packers guy. Crazy measurables similar to Gary


His highlights are nice....the one where he caught Zay Flowers from behind was unreal.

He split the blockers, found the perfect angle and made what would have been a huge play into negative yardage.

Would not hate that pick at 15 at all.

His technique is a long ways off. Relies too much on the Bull rush & doesn't have a counter move.

There are probably a handful of guys in this draft who are better pure pass rushers.
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