Mavs 2-0 with Kyrie and no Luka, but now 0-2 with Luka back...(Luka can't play off ball or defend)

Moderators: bwgood77, zimpy27, infinite11285, Clav, Domejandro, ken6199, bisme37, Dirk, KingDavid, cupcakesnake

User avatar
Joao Saraiva
RealGM
Posts: 13,433
And1: 6,208
Joined: Feb 09, 2011
   

Re: Mavs 2-0 with Kyrie and no Luka, but now 0-2 with Luka back...(Luka can't play off ball or defend) 

Post#101 » by Joao Saraiva » Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:02 pm

Luka to Utah. We have the picks. We want you to be happy
“These guys have been criticized the last few years for not getting to where we’re going, but I’ve always said that the most important thing in sports is to keep trying. Let this be an example of what it means to say it’s never over.” - Jerry Sloan
User avatar
ItsDanger
RealGM
Posts: 28,421
And1: 25,614
Joined: Nov 01, 2008

Re: Mavs 2-0 with Kyrie and no Luka, but now 0-2 with Luka back...(Luka can't play off ball or defend) 

Post#102 » by ItsDanger » Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:02 pm

Kyrie may walk in offseason. What does Luka do then? Wait 3 more years until free agency?
Organization can be defined as an organized body of people with a particular purpose. Not random.
UglyBugBall
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,901
And1: 1,736
Joined: Sep 04, 2022
 

Re: Mavs 2-0 with Kyrie and no Luka, but now 0-2 with Luka back...(Luka can't play off ball or defend) 

Post#103 » by UglyBugBall » Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:26 pm

life_saver wrote:lol so much hatred and hot takes on Luka on here...they lost 1 game in overtime on road vs a good Kings team and another game by 3 points vs a decent Wolves team...these aren't some crazy bad losses. They still need some time to gel...come back after atleast 10+ games. If they are still struggling, then that would be an issue


They didn't lose by three, they were down by 26. Let's not cherry pick now to make the loss look better
jpengland
General Manager
Posts: 7,614
And1: 6,944
Joined: Jan 22, 2014
   

Re: Mavs 2-0 with Kyrie and no Luka, but now 0-2 with Luka back...(Luka can't play off ball or defend) 

Post#104 » by jpengland » Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:30 pm

2 games?

That's it. Dallas is cooked, clearly.
jpengland
General Manager
Posts: 7,614
And1: 6,944
Joined: Jan 22, 2014
   

Re: Mavs 2-0 with Kyrie and no Luka, but now 0-2 with Luka back...(Luka can't play off ball or defend) 

Post#105 » by jpengland » Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:31 pm

dautjazz wrote:Well Jazz would gladly take Doncic off your hands.


Well seeing as you set the market with your Gobert haul, how about 37 first rounders?
User avatar
Texas Chuck
Senior Mod - NBA TnT Forum
Senior Mod - NBA TnT Forum
Posts: 92,556
And1: 98,820
Joined: May 19, 2012
Location: Purgatory
   

Re: Mavs 2-0 with Kyrie and no Luka, but now 0-2 with Luka back...(Luka can't play off ball or defend) 

Post#106 » by Texas Chuck » Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:42 pm

Breaking new: Mavs franchise just folded after being exposed by the brady bunch(again).

You've broken my heart, OP. I will never forgive this. Nobody knew Luka was better on ball than off, until you had the courage to post this thread. Nobody knew he wasn't peak Tony Allen defensively until your brilliance and boldness. Now, the team has had to fold. Luka will have to crawl back to Euroleague where he's already acknowledged its even tougher for him to score. I give him a couple more years before he's out of basketball completely.

What could have been? His Behind the Music episode will feature this day heavily.
ThunderBolt wrote:I’m going to let some of you in on a little secret I learned on realgm. If you don’t like a thread, not only do you not have to comment but you don’t even have to open it and read it. You’re welcome.
User avatar
mixerball
Veteran
Posts: 2,718
And1: 2,284
Joined: May 08, 2010

Re: Mavs 2-0 with Kyrie and no Luka, but now 0-2 with Luka back...(Luka can't play off ball or defend) 

Post#107 » by mixerball » Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:44 pm

2 games played together

op already preaching the absolute "truth"
maxpower8888
Rookie
Posts: 1,128
And1: 1,758
Joined: Aug 28, 2020
     

Re: Mavs 2-0 with Kyrie and no Luka, but now 0-2 with Luka back...(Luka can't play off ball or defend) 

Post#108 » by maxpower8888 » Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:52 pm

They should trade that scrub Luka before the rest of the league figures out he'll never be anything more than a mid-level player.
User avatar
Jamaaliver
Forum Mod - Hawks
Forum Mod - Hawks
Posts: 45,296
And1: 17,228
Joined: Sep 22, 2005
Location: Officially a citizen of the World...
Contact:
     

Re: Mavs 2-0 with Kyrie and no Luka, but now 0-2 with Luka back...(Luka can't play off ball or defend) 

Post#109 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:41 pm

User avatar
Jamaaliver
Forum Mod - Hawks
Forum Mod - Hawks
Posts: 45,296
And1: 17,228
Joined: Sep 22, 2005
Location: Officially a citizen of the World...
Contact:
     

Re: Mavs 2-0 with Kyrie and no Luka, but now 0-2 with Luka back...(Luka can't play off ball or defend) 

Post#110 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:45 pm

jpengland wrote:
dautjazz wrote:Well Jazz would gladly take Doncic off your hands.


Well seeing as you set the market with your Gobert haul, how about 37 first rounders?



Pretty sure Ainge would demand an unprotected 1st rounder just to take on Luka's massive contract. :falloff:
User avatar
Lalouie
RealGM
Posts: 23,313
And1: 12,442
Joined: May 12, 2017

Re: Mavs 2-0 with Kyrie and no Luka, but now 0-2 with Luka back...(Luka can't play off ball or defend) 

Post#111 » by Lalouie » Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:11 pm

the end of the game was very bad. luka had to speed up and that's not him - he has his own slow pace. i have NEVER SEEN luka in such a frenzied moment as that endgame. it looked bizarre and hopeless and hapless

i'm hearing too much of luka having to adjust - SCREW THAT!!!!!

if i had a choice i'd rather kyrie adjust to luka than luka adjust to kyrie. kyrie is not a winner and luka is. and if kyrie has to be the one to adjust i think he will figure out a way to leave the situtaion

people are pretty optimistic,,,all based on the idea that two brilliant bbIQ's will figure it out. small sample size but DAMN, these two guys play at a totally different pace. in fact luka's whole game relies on his pace!,,,and he's not athletic enough to speed up. lebron otoh played at a pace closer to kyrie
UglyBugBall
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,901
And1: 1,736
Joined: Sep 04, 2022
 

Re: Mavs 2-0 with Kyrie and no Luka, but now 0-2 with Luka back...(Luka can't play off ball or defend) 

Post#112 » by UglyBugBall » Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:29 pm

Lalouie wrote:
if i had a choice i'd rather kyrie adjust to luka than luka adjust to kyrie. kyrie is not a winner and luka is.


Wow, must be nice to live in a world where Luka has won a championship and Kyrie has not.
User avatar
JShuttlesworth
RealGM
Posts: 10,197
And1: 13,387
Joined: Dec 09, 2013
Location: Toronto
 

Re: Mavs 2-0 with Kyrie and no Luka, but now 0-2 with Luka back...(Luka can't play off ball or defend) 

Post#113 » by JShuttlesworth » Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:32 pm

I would be very surprised if Luka and Kyrie work out as a pairing

I just don't think the two of them compliment each other
User avatar
Lalouie
RealGM
Posts: 23,313
And1: 12,442
Joined: May 12, 2017

Re: Mavs 2-0 with Kyrie and no Luka, but now 0-2 with Luka back...(Luka can't play off ball or defend) 

Post#114 » by Lalouie » Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:43 pm

UglyBugBall wrote:
Lalouie wrote:
if i had a choice i'd rather kyrie adjust to luka than luka adjust to kyrie. kyrie is not a winner and luka is.


Wow, must be nice to live in a world where Luka has won a championship and Kyrie has not.


wow,,,that's a pretty simplistically DUMB statement
rocketsfan100
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,864
And1: 3,354
Joined: Nov 10, 2017
         

Re: Mavs 2-0 with Kyrie and no Luka, but now 0-2 with Luka back...(Luka can't play off ball or defend) 

Post#115 » by rocketsfan100 » Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:50 pm

Kyrie maybe ball dominant but he moves off the ball. He plays off hand offs then runs around on cirl cuts then gets the ball back. It’s not dribble, dribble. He moves well off the ball. That’s why he and harden played well together from the first second they started playing together.
Mickey8
Head Coach
Posts: 6,376
And1: 5,233
Joined: Jan 21, 2017

Re: Mavs 2-0 with Kyrie and no Luka, but now 0-2 with Luka back...(Luka can't play off ball or defend) 

Post#117 » by Mickey8 » Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:01 pm

Nobody is saying Dallas is cooked but they have lots of issues on their roster and not much time to fix them this season.
CobraCommander
RealGM
Posts: 25,295
And1: 16,462
Joined: May 01, 2014
       

Re: Mavs 2-0 with Kyrie and no Luka, but now 0-2 with Luka back...(Luka can't play off ball or defend) 

Post#118 » by CobraCommander » Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:48 pm

Lalouie wrote:the end of the game was very bad. luka had to speed up and that's not him - he has his own slow pace. i have NEVER SEEN luka in such a frenzied moment as that endgame. it looked bizarre and hopeless and hapless

i'm hearing too much of luka having to adjust - SCREW THAT!!!!!

if i had a choice i'd rather kyrie adjust to luka than luka adjust to kyrie. kyrie is not a winner and luka is. and if kyrie has to be the one to adjust i think he will figure out a way to leave the situtaion....and

people are pretty optimistic,,,a

Worse take ever..(hyperbole on my part...I have seen worse and personally said worse) but..I don’t get it...

It’s 2 games...bad coaching...no way they can have a plan in that moment- both were being deferential...

Kyrie thinking “this is Luka time”.

And Luka was thinking “Kyrie is hot! Ky close it out my man”

and Kidd was thinking “who’s that girl with Matt Barnes...she looks familiar”

Luka needs to adjust and will...and that’s good

Either way - Luka and Kyrie proved 2 things -

1. No lead is safe when they both out there.

2. No they not playing defense...but if they hitting you dead

Don’t over react - It’s early as Hell
payton2kemp
Starter
Posts: 2,340
And1: 4,362
Joined: Dec 15, 2014
Location: I can't tell you. I'm an investigator.
   

Re: Mavs 2-0 with Kyrie and no Luka, but now 0-2 with Luka back...(Luka can't play off ball or defend) 

Post#119 » by payton2kemp » Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:55 pm

jpengland wrote:2 games?

That's it. Dallas is cooked, clearly.


Small sample size I agree, but man their defense wasn't great before and now its terrible. They will have to score a lot to win each game.
User avatar
Doranku
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,717
And1: 8,421
Joined: Feb 21, 2020
   

Re: Mavs 2-0 with Kyrie and no Luka, but now 0-2 with Luka back...(Luka can't play off ball or defend) 

Post#120 » by Doranku » Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:56 pm

LuDux1 wrote:Image


All two teams, wow. Such a strange meme for a guy that won a ring with the team that drafted him.

Return to The General Board