2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 5 - The KD era begins

[bwgood77]

TBF, I'll still take Chris Paul 2 out of 7 days a week - just not for two straight months. CP3 is and always be a better player, he just doesn't have the legs. Still makes fewer mistakes and has a more consistently positive impact.

FWIW this season, they're equal in WS/48 and CP3 has better ORTG and DRTG, but lower BPM and VORP.

Depends which Chris Paul we get. The last two weeks yes but only for this season. Long term for the next 5 years, I'd take Kyrie if he had his head on straight, which is about as likely as Sarver re-acquiring the team.

You guys are crazy. Kyrie is a train wreck. If we're so worried about getting a cancerous PG to help out/take over for CP3 then go get DLo. At he's 1 of Booker's close friends and will cost a fraction of what Kyrie will cost.

He can stay in Texas or go to LAL with Lebron. Keep away from my Suns, Kyrie.

I can't really stand Kyrie but there is no denying his talent and I am concerned about a PGoTF, but I obviously would get any concerns. I mean we are already taking enormous risks to go all in now, so I wouldn't have really minded going all in for now and give our PG a little more longevity.

And our issue is our team choking in big pressure games, elimination games, especially Booker. We know Kyrie is clutch in those moments. Paul occasionally runs into issues too and obviously has playoff injury problems.

I get the concern but being that our shift has gone from focusing on having stand up high character guys and not sacrificing the future, to going in now at all costs, future be damned, it could have been worth the risk.

[WeekapaugGroove]

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Smack can't hit a FT during practice, bad news bears.

Should be great news for us in the playoffs huh?...lol Hopefully teams won't strategize against us targeting him due to this?

You have to assume teams will hacka biz so they should try to keep the majority of his minutes at the start of the 2nd and 4th quarters. Horrid FT shooting isn't as big of a deal for a bench guy than it is a starter.

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With the Suns need for a legit CP3 replacement I smell a sign-and-trade situation where DA gets flipped to Dallas.

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[MrMiyagi]

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With the Suns need for a legit CP3 replacement I smell a sign-and-trade situation where DA gets flipped to Dallas.

I think I'd find a new team

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With the Suns need for a legit CP3 replacement I smell a sign-and-trade situation where DA gets flipped to Dallas.

I think I'd find a new team

I truly barely wanted KD - though that is going to change

Do not want Kyrie

[BobbieL]

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With the Suns need for a legit CP3 replacement I smell a sign-and-trade situation where DA gets flipped to Dallas.

I think I'd find a new team

Yeah, definitely don't want to become the Phoenix Nets.

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Yeah, definitely don't want to become the Phoenix Nets.

But that's not what my post was about LOL.

I'm simply commenting on what was being reported because IF true - that means they'll definitely be interested in him in the offseason.

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I was so happy Dallas make the decision to take Kyrie. Fully recognise how good Kyrie is as a player but everything else is just a massive negative.

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Book couldn't be more right. He was talking about bringing in stars and building a real team in Phoenix when we were still a trash city team.

[lilfishi22]

With the Suns need for a legit CP3 replacement I smell a sign-and-trade situation where DA gets flipped to Dallas.

I think I'd find a new team

Yeah, definitely don't want to become the Phoenix Nets.

Yeah didn't make any sense to me. Basically trading away everything but Book to get those two guys and run it back? Nahhhh

[lilfishi22]

Didn't see if this was discussed on this thread but according to Jake Fischer, our best offer for Cam's extension for $72m/4

https://sports.yahoo.com/kevin-durant-makes-the-suns-legit-contenders-but-the-team-will-still-explore-ways-to-improve-145405648.html

The Nets will also face an interesting restricted free agency for Cam Johnson, who was unable to come to an agreement in Phoenix. The Suns, sources said, were not willing to offer Johnson more than $72 million over four seasons.

I think that was about what we had anticipated and imo a fair contract given the injury concerns with him. The fact that he suffered another injury at the start of the season which took him out for half the season just goes to show those concerns were already priced into that $72m offer.

I hope he gets paid the most he can but to me, $72m is fair.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Didn't see if this was discussed on this thread but according to Jake Fischer, our best offer for Cam's extension for $72m/4

https://sports.yahoo.com/kevin-durant-makes-the-suns-legit-contenders-but-the-team-will-still-explore-ways-to-improve-145405648.html

The Nets will also face an interesting restricted free agency for Cam Johnson, who was unable to come to an agreement in Phoenix. The Suns, sources said, were not willing to offer Johnson more than $72 million over four seasons.

I think that was about what we had anticipated and imo a fair contract given the injury concerns with him. The fact that he suffered another injury at the start of the season which took him out for half the season just goes to show those concerns were already priced into that $72m offer.

I hope he gets paid the most he can but to me, $72m is fair.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if he gets north of $100 on a 4 yr deal this summer. Actually a decent amount of teams with space this summer and not a great FA class. Cam is such an easy guy to fit on any roster I can see some team throw a bag at him and see if Brooklyn blinks.

Houston, Indiana, San Antonio, Orlando, Detroit, Charlotte, Utah, and OKC can all get to over $40mil in space pretty easily.

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[lilfishi22]

Didn't see if this was discussed on this thread but according to Jake Fischer, our best offer for Cam's extension for $72m/4

https://sports.yahoo.com/kevin-durant-makes-the-suns-legit-contenders-but-the-team-will-still-explore-ways-to-improve-145405648.html

The Nets will also face an interesting restricted free agency for Cam Johnson, who was unable to come to an agreement in Phoenix. The Suns, sources said, were not willing to offer Johnson more than $72 million over four seasons.

I think that was about what we had anticipated and imo a fair contract given the injury concerns with him. The fact that he suffered another injury at the start of the season which took him out for half the season just goes to show those concerns were already priced into that $72m offer.

I hope he gets paid the most he can but to me, $72m is fair.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if he gets north of $100 on a 4 yr deal this summer. Actually a decent amount of teams with space this summer and not a great FA class.

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I kinda doubt that and if he does, I would be really surprised. I just think he's too fragile for that kind of contract gamble. If he was healthy, I think he's worth $100m with his shooting, defence and versatile offensive game but he just hasn't had a healthy healthy season. And given that he went with the snip route for his meniscus means that meniscus just has a shorter shelf life now compared to if he went with the repair route.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Didn't see if this was discussed on this thread but according to Jake Fischer, our best offer for Cam's extension for $72m/4



I think that was about what we had anticipated and imo a fair contract given the injury concerns with him. The fact that he suffered another injury at the start of the season which took him out for half the season just goes to show those concerns were already priced into that $72m offer.

I hope he gets paid the most he can but to me, $72m is fair.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if he gets north of $100 on a 4 yr deal this summer. Actually a decent amount of teams with space this summer and not a great FA class.

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I kinda doubt that and if he does, I would be really surprised. I just think he's too fragile for that kind of contract gamble. If he was healthy, I think he's worth $100m with his shooting, defence and versatile offensive game but he just hasn't had a healthy healthy season. And given that he went with the snip route for his meniscus means that meniscus just has a shorter shelf life now compared to if he went with the repair route.

In theory the meniscus removal shouldn't really be an issue until his next contract when he's in his 30s and the wear and tear without that padding starts causing arthritis.

I guess we'll see I just think some team is going to talk themselves into him. Added bonus is he's such a mature and good dude that young rebuilding teams would love to have him as a leader vet presence.

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[KdoubleDees23]

Didn't see if this was discussed on this thread but according to Jake Fischer, our best offer for Cam's extension for $72m/4

https://sports.yahoo.com/kevin-durant-makes-the-suns-legit-contenders-but-the-team-will-still-explore-ways-to-improve-145405648.html

The Nets will also face an interesting restricted free agency for Cam Johnson, who was unable to come to an agreement in Phoenix. The Suns, sources said, were not willing to offer Johnson more than $72 million over four seasons.

I think that was about what we had anticipated and imo a fair contract given the injury concerns with him. The fact that he suffered another injury at the start of the season which took him out for half the season just goes to show those concerns were already priced into that $72m offer.

I hope he gets paid the most he can but to me, $72m is fair.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if he gets north of $100 on a 4 yr deal this summer. Actually a decent amount of teams with space this summer and not a great FA class. Cam is such an easy guy to fit on any roster I can see some team throw a bag at him and see if Brooklyn blinks.

Houston, Indiana, San Antonio, Orlando, Detroit, Charlotte, Utah, and OKC can all get to over $40mil in space pretty easily.

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$20 mill a year should be the most any team offers. $18 mill for an injury prone shooter is way over pay

[bwgood77]

Yeah, definitely don't want to become the Phoenix Nets.

But that's not what my post was about LOL.

I'm simply commenting on what was being reported because IF true - that means they'll definitely be interested in him in the offseason.

Possibly. Maybe they will bring JaVale McGee back as well.

[bwgood77]

Wouldn't surprise me at all if he gets north of $100 on a 4 yr deal this summer. Actually a decent amount of teams with space this summer and not a great FA class.

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I kinda doubt that and if he does, I would be really surprised. I just think he's too fragile for that kind of contract gamble. If he was healthy, I think he's worth $100m with his shooting, defence and versatile offensive game but he just hasn't had a healthy healthy season. And given that he went with the snip route for his meniscus means that meniscus just has a shorter shelf life now compared to if he went with the repair route.

In theory the meniscus removal shouldn't really be an issue until his next contract when he's in his 30s and the wear and tear without that padding starts causing arthritis.

I guess we'll see I just think some team is going to talk themselves into him. Added bonus is he's such a mature and good dude that young rebuilding teams would love to have him as a leader vet presence.

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He's had a lot of injury problems in his past though and a big hip athroscopic surgery after it had troubled him for years. Then was out last year and this year. There was rumor we didn't want to offer him too much because of his injury history (though I think we offered him a fairly signficant offer).

He has mostly stayed healthy until last year. He is a pretty solid player. It will be interesting to see who goes after him. A lot of those rebuilding teams with cap space but I imagine Brooklyn tries to keep him given they will want to compete.