Kyrie Irving, Markieff Morris to Mavs for DFS, Spence, 2029 1st and 2027 and 2029 2nds

[Apz]

Playing for a contract so let's throw some minutes at him.

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Considering he’s one of the few front court players we have that actually play defense I don’t see the harm.

Morris is good insurance for a big 4/small 5 in case Maxi goes down.
He can at least guard smaller centers and all PFs and can thug it up a bit if the situation is needed.

Th7nk the issue is that they joined on a roadtrip. Have to understand they havent had a real training with the team yet. You cant wait with irving, bjt no hurry with a roleplayer

[arkuo]

So guys, let's look ahead for a bit. Now assuming Kyrie gets re-signed by Cuban to a full max to avoid disrespecting yada yada yada, the next realistic window for Dallas to add serious firepower is 2025. So to get to that, you do not re-sign Wood, let Powell walk, do not resign Bullock in 2024. And allow THJ and Bertans to expire in 2025. That's squarely another maxed out superstar and you would need to sign a bunch of role players to fill out the bench. But that is what we are looking at right now. Hence that 2027 FRP in your back pocket with THJ and or Wood is nice to have in case Kyrie can convince some other big man or forward to join him in Dallas before 2025 rolls around.

Time for Kyrie and Luka to do some legal tampering now.

Follow up: in 2025 Luka can convince Lauri Markannen or Kyrie can convince Brandon Ingram to come over. Both stars will be in rebuilding situations with their respective teams and will look to win something somewhere else. Utah collected a ton of draft picks but those picks are in middle school now while New Orleans will wait forever for Zion to be healthy again. Good chance to steal one if those two.

[Mr B]

So guys, let's look ahead for a bit. Now assuming Kyrie gets re-signed by Cuban to a full max to avoid disrespecting yada yada yada, the next realistic window for Dallas to add serious firepower is 2025. So to get to that, you do not re-sign Wood, let Powell walk, do not resign Bullock in 2024. And allow THJ and Bertans to expire in 2025. That's squarely another maxed out superstar and you would need to sign a bunch of role players to fill out the bench. But that is what we are looking at right now. Hence that 2027 FRP in your back pocket with THJ and or Wood is nice to have in case Kyrie can convince some other big man or forward to join him in Dallas before 2025 rolls around.

Time for Kyrie and Luka to do some legal tampering now.

Follow up: in 2025 Luka can convince Lauri Markannen or Kyrie can convince Brandon Ingram to come over. Both stars will be in rebuilding situations with their respective teams and will look to win something somewhere else. Utah collected a ton of draft picks but those picks are in middle school now while New Orleans will wait forever for Zion to be healthy again. Good chance to steal one if those two.

It sounds great to have a ton of cap space in 2025 however they are going to need to do something else between now and then. This off season they’ll be able to trade the ‘25, and ‘27 FRP, I believe they will have the 2nd rounder from those same season to trade too (I could be wrong about the 2nd round picks). They are going to need to make a couple trades to shore up the front court defense and rebounding and they need to find a defensive wing.

I think if you can avoid eating up the 2025 cap space then great obviously you do that. However even if you have to eat up the 2025 cap space then you do it. They need to get better now. With Kyrie you’re probably already in borrowed time, even if he signs a contract with the Mavs. You just can’t wait 2 seasons.

[arkuo]

So guys, let's look ahead for a bit. Now assuming Kyrie gets re-signed by Cuban to a full max to avoid disrespecting yada yada yada, the next realistic window for Dallas to add serious firepower is 2025. So to get to that, you do not re-sign Wood, let Powell walk, do not resign Bullock in 2024. And allow THJ and Bertans to expire in 2025. That's squarely another maxed out superstar and you would need to sign a bunch of role players to fill out the bench. But that is what we are looking at right now. Hence that 2027 FRP in your back pocket with THJ and or Wood is nice to have in case Kyrie can convince some other big man or forward to join him in Dallas before 2025 rolls around.

Time for Kyrie and Luka to do some legal tampering now.

Follow up: in 2025 Luka can convince Lauri Markannen or Kyrie can convince Brandon Ingram to come over. Both stars will be in rebuilding situations with their respective teams and will look to win something somewhere else. Utah collected a ton of draft picks but those picks are in middle school now while New Orleans will wait forever for Zion to be healthy again. Good chance to steal one if those two.

It sounds great to have a ton of cap space in 2025 however they are going to need to do something else between now and then. This off season they’ll be able to trade the ‘25, and ‘27 FRP, I believe they will have the 2nd rounder from those same season to trade too (I could be wrong about the 2nd round picks). They are going to need to make a couple trades to shore up the front court defense and rebounding and they need to find a defensive wing.

I think if you can avoid eating up the 2025 cap space then great obviously you do that. However even if you have to eat up the 2025 cap space then you do it. They need to get better now. With Kyrie you’re probably already in borrowed time, even if he signs a contract with the Mavs. You just can’t wait 2 seasons.

Yeah I think they'll do something via a trade for a middle star. THJ + Wood + 2 FRPs could net a good big man or forward. If they wait for 2025, then you cant sign Wood to a new deal.

As currently constucted, kyrie + Luka needs 1 more big defensive forward. So they'd have to trade for 1 in the summer.

[Mr B]

So guys, let's look ahead for a bit. Now assuming Kyrie gets re-signed by Cuban to a full max to avoid disrespecting yada yada yada, the next realistic window for Dallas to add serious firepower is 2025. So to get to that, you do not re-sign Wood, let Powell walk, do not resign Bullock in 2024. And allow THJ and Bertans to expire in 2025. That's squarely another maxed out superstar and you would need to sign a bunch of role players to fill out the bench. But that is what we are looking at right now. Hence that 2027 FRP in your back pocket with THJ and or Wood is nice to have in case Kyrie can convince some other big man or forward to join him in Dallas before 2025 rolls around.

Time for Kyrie and Luka to do some legal tampering now.

Follow up: in 2025 Luka can convince Lauri Markannen or Kyrie can convince Brandon Ingram to come over. Both stars will be in rebuilding situations with their respective teams and will look to win something somewhere else. Utah collected a ton of draft picks but those picks are in middle school now while New Orleans will wait forever for Zion to be healthy again. Good chance to steal one if those two.

It sounds great to have a ton of cap space in 2025 however they are going to need to do something else between now and then. This off season they’ll be able to trade the ‘25, and ‘27 FRP, I believe they will have the 2nd rounder from those same season to trade too (I could be wrong about the 2nd round picks). They are going to need to make a couple trades to shore up the front court defense and rebounding and they need to find a defensive wing.

I think if you can avoid eating up the 2025 cap space then great obviously you do that. However even if you have to eat up the 2025 cap space then you do it. They need to get better now. With Kyrie you’re probably already in borrowed time, even if he signs a contract with the Mavs. You just can’t wait 2 seasons.

Yeah I think they'll do something via a trade for a middle star. THJ + Wood + 2 FRPs could net a good big man or forward. If they wait for 2025, then you cant sign Wood to a new deal.

As currently constucted, kyrie + Luka needs 1 more big defensive forward. So they'd have to trade for 1 in the summer.

I would still love to find a way to get Myles Turner or Clint Capela. Those are centers though. I wonder what Miami’s plans are for their team. Jimmy Butler or Bam would be ideal.

[Marko_MFFL]

Turner would be ideal for this team.

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He's right. I thought a clear understanding of the situation was communicated by all parties involved. We gotta wait till June, as will the ever impatient press.

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[Mavrelous]

He can't be extended anyway, journalists ask these questions for clicks, but it's clear this is an experiment, and DAL and Kyrie will decide on their future after the experiment is done.

[Mr B]

He can't be extended anyway, journalists ask these questions for clicks, but it's clear this is an experiment, and DAL and Kyrie will decide on their future after the experiment is done.

I hope that if Kyrie (or the Mavs) decide this experiment isn’t going to work that Kyrie allows the Mavs to do a sign and trade to whatever team he wants to join. If he does want to go to the Lakers then hopefully they can work out a 3 team trade to bring some assets (or player) back.

[arkuo]

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Nico views this move as zero risk. Which means Mavs dont lose out of anything as they plan to have Dinwiddie walk anyway when his contract expires together with Bertans.

[arkuo]

Markieff Morris got interviewed yesterday and he was asked why he wasn't getting minutes. He said he was out of shape since he was out of the BKN rotation. Probably ate a lot but he's working to be in shape now. It will take some time though.

[arkuo]

Coach K got interviewed at ESPN today and said he had full faith that this Kyrie and Luka thing would work out. He said Kyrie looks happier in Dallas.

So between Coach K and Brian Windhorst, I take Coach K's assessment better.

Any chance Coach K wants to replace Kidd? LOL That should even be more convincing for Kyrie to stay. His former college coach in Duke, his former Nike guy in Nico. Just build a suitable environment for the guy and have Cuban offer him a full 4 year max. You can always trade him if it doesn't work out. As soon as Kyrie requested a trade before the deadline, in less than 24 hours, you had 4 teams who had serious offers calling up Tsai and Marks. Let the record show that these are solid offers in less than 24 hours. Not just calls to check for due diligence. These are real trade offers for him. So he's still tradeable if it doesn't work out. This is Kyrie Irving, not Theo Pinson.

[Mavrelous]

He can't be extended anyway, journalists ask these questions for clicks, but it's clear this is an experiment, and DAL and Kyrie will decide on their future after the experiment is done.

I hope that if Kyrie (or the Mavs) decide this experiment isn’t going to work that Kyrie allows the Mavs to do a sign and trade to whatever team he wants to join. If he does want to go to the Lakers then hopefully they can work out a 3 team trade to bring some assets (or player) back.

S&T is the most likely scenario since cap space teams don't sign 32 y/o small guards with history of missing time for vrious reasons

[wco81]

He's likely to go for the team which offers him the longest and biggest contract.

Especially with the cap spike which will let players get another dip at a big payday.

Who wants to give him 4 or 5 years at over $40 million AAV?

Either the Mavs can or they can sign and trade. But even if there are teams willing to offer him 4-year max deals, are they eager to give up assets so they can give him a 5-year max?

[Mavrelous]

He's likely to go for the team which offers him the longest and biggest contract.

Especially with the cap spike which will let players get another dip at a big payday.

Who wants to give him 4 or 5 years at over $40 million AAV?

Either the Mavs can or they can sign and trade. But even if there are teams willing to offer him 4-year max deals, are they eager to give up assets so they can give him a 5-year max?

No one can offer 5 years except the Mavs, S&T is limited to 4 years, I don't think 5 years is in play anyway.

[Mr B]

He can't be extended anyway, journalists ask these questions for clicks, but it's clear this is an experiment, and DAL and Kyrie will decide on their future after the experiment is done.

I hope that if Kyrie (or the Mavs) decide this experiment isn’t going to work that Kyrie allows the Mavs to do a sign and trade to whatever team he wants to join. If he does want to go to the Lakers then hopefully they can work out a 3 team trade to bring some assets (or player) back.

S&T is the most likely scenario since cap space teams don't sign 32 y/o small guards with history of missing time for vrious reasons

I believe the Lakers will have cap space though and very few assets. If they’re able to they will definitely signs 30 year old superstar PG, even if he does miss a few games every season.

[Mavrelous]

I hope that if Kyrie (or the Mavs) decide this experiment isn’t going to work that Kyrie allows the Mavs to do a sign and trade to whatever team he wants to join. If he does want to go to the Lakers then hopefully they can work out a 3 team trade to bring some assets (or player) back.

S&T is the most likely scenario since cap space teams don't sign 32 y/o small guards with history of missing time for vrious reasons

I believe the Lakers will have cap space though and very few assets. If they’re able to they will definitely signs 30 year old superstar PG, even if he does miss a few games every season.

They won't, only LBJ and AD + cap holds will dro their cap space below 30

[41Dirk41]

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