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RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Nuggets (Wednesday, 9PM EST) 

Post#1 » by Dirk » Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:30 am

At Denver on Wednesday night against the 136 times MVP, then six consecutive home games after this weekend's All-Star break.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Nuggets (Wednesday, 9PM EST) 

Post#2 » by Ni Da Ye » Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:28 pm

One of the MVP candidate will have the following stats in this game:

- 30+ points
- 18+ rebounds
- 15+ assists
- 5+ steal + block combined

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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Nuggets (Wednesday, 9PM EST) 

Post#3 » by Archx » Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:08 pm

Ni Da Ye wrote:One of the MVP candidate will have the following stats in this game:

- 30+ points
- 18+ rebounds
- 15+ assists
- 5+ steal + block combined

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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Nuggets (Wednesday, 9PM EST) 

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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Nuggets (Wednesday, 9PM EST) 

Post#5 » by SOUNDCHASER » Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:27 am

So we have available the following unless we get lucky and a players cold goes away which could certainly happen. Someone tell Cuban about the modern use of Silver that we who want to avoid vaccines use to beat colds and the flu.

Luka
Kyrie
McGee
Powell
Green
Hardy
Frank
Theo
McKinley
AJ
Morris
Silva

Looks like we got enough to produce a win if we take care of business and get hot shooting the 3 and the Nuggets don't get hot from the three.

Starting these 5 is a good way to go if you need to play the best 5 and use one big instead of 2. Swap Powell out for Hardy if you want to play 2 bigs.
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If you do that you have Powell Morris and Silva to play the 4/5
Wings and guards you have Frank Theo McKinley AJ

Bench is looking like we are going to have to dig into Kidds bag of tricks.

That could happen with a little luck. I am thinking Morris will do well in his first game to try and impress. Frank and Pinson can step it up as we have seen in the past. McKinley has certainly shown skills in opportunities where he was counted on to play a role but if we use 2 bigs to play at the 4/5 we can use Hardy as the backup at PG when we need to rest both Luka and Irving for a short stretch. Not sure about Silva never paid attention to his game very much.
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Post#6 » by arkuo » Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:31 am

Luka and Kyrie will have a few more team practices in so hopefully they got a shot. Number 1 team in the West. The high altitude and the new running game will have Luka working double time.
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Post#7 » by arkuo » Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:09 am

Bullock, THJ and Wood listed as questionable for this game.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Nuggets (Wednesday, 9PM EST) 

Post#8 » by Bob8 » Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:30 am

arkuo wrote:Luka and Kyrie will have a few more team practices in so hopefully they got a shot. Number 1 team in the West. The high altitude and the new running game will have Luka working double time.


There's a reason that bad defending team, capable of playing half court offense, plays slow. More possessions, more your, already bad D, will suffer. Mavs should have even better half court offense with Kyrie and even more reason to play slow. Only player capable to play fast on both ends of the court is Josh.
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Post#9 » by arkuo » Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:10 am

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arkuo wrote:Luka and Kyrie will have a few more team practices in so hopefully they got a shot. Number 1 team in the West. The high altitude and the new running game will have Luka working double time.


There's a reason that bad defending team, capable of playing half court offense, plays slow. More possessions, more your, already bad D, will suffer. Mavs should have even better half court offense with Kyrie and even more reason to play slow. Only player capable to play fast on both ends of the court is Josh.


Kyrie's strength is open court basketball. When you slow the game down and focus on half court basketball, you turn Kyrie Irving into a $36M Mike Conley Jr. Denver thrives because Jokic doesn't get the ball for 19 seconds every possession dribbling back and fourth to end up with a step back 3 pointer. The idea is to move the ball around and get other players their touches. Having othet players just stand around is asking them to say no to free money. That's why they want to showcase that they csn do more rather than just standing around waiting for a kickout 3. This is also a livelihood for other players. This is not playing for free for flag and country.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Nuggets (Wednesday, 9PM EST) 

Post#10 » by Mavrelous » Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:20 am

arkuo wrote:Kyrie's strength is open court basketball. When you slow the game down and focus on half court basketball, you turn Kyrie Irving into a $36M Mike Conley Jr. Denver thrives because Jokic doesn't get the ball for 19 seconds every possession dribbling back and fourth to end up with a step back 3 pointer. The idea is to move the ball around and get other players their touches. Having othet players just stand around is asking them to say no to free money. That's why they want to showcase that they csn do more rather than just standing around waiting for a kickout 3. This is also a livelihood for other players. This is not playing for free for flag and country.

Not really, Kyrie is a great iso scorer, he's even better in half court than open court.
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Post#11 » by Bob8 » Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:29 am

arkuo wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
arkuo wrote:Luka and Kyrie will have a few more team practices in so hopefully they got a shot. Number 1 team in the West. The high altitude and the new running game will have Luka working double time.


There's a reason that bad defending team, capable of playing half court offense, plays slow. More possessions, more your, already bad D, will suffer. Mavs should have even better half court offense with Kyrie and even more reason to play slow. Only player capable to play fast on both ends of the court is Josh.


Kyrie's strength is open court basketball. When you slow the game down and focus on half court basketball, you turn Kyrie Irving into a $36M Mike Conley Jr. Denver thrives because Jokic doesn't get the ball for 19 seconds every possession dribbling back and fourth to end up with a step back 3 pointer. The idea is to move the ball around and get other players their touches. Having othet players just stand around is asking them to say no to free money. That's why they want to showcase that they csn do more rather than just standing around waiting for a kickout 3. This is also a livelihood for other players. This is not playing for free for flag and country.


If you play Grizzlies, Warriors or even Wolves, who want to play as fast as they can, what should be your plan? Fast pace or slow pace? For fast pace basketball you need great athletes, who Grizzlies have and Mavs don't. You need totally different roster for that, roster that can survive that pace and play at least decent D. The only D Mavs can decently play with this roster is zone D.

Kyrie is a fantastic iso scorer. He should like a lot playing half court with a lot of spacing and Luka being double teamed.

There's of course way for Mavs to be good fast paced team. Trade Luka and get multiple athletic players for him and then build team around Kyrie. Prime LeBron was an athletic freak.

Basketball, especially playoffs, is not only about what you should do to score more, but about what your opponents like. And playing fast pace basketball just won't work against majority of West playoffs teams.
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Post#12 » by arkuo » Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:35 pm

Bob8 wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
There's a reason that bad defending team, capable of playing half court offense, plays slow. More possessions, more your, already bad D, will suffer. Mavs should have even better half court offense with Kyrie and even more reason to play slow. Only player capable to play fast on both ends of the court is Josh.


Kyrie's strength is open court basketball. When you slow the game down and focus on half court basketball, you turn Kyrie Irving into a $36M Mike Conley Jr. Denver thrives because Jokic doesn't get the ball for 19 seconds every possession dribbling back and fourth to end up with a step back 3 pointer. The idea is to move the ball around and get other players their touches. Having othet players just stand around is asking them to say no to free money. That's why they want to showcase that they csn do more rather than just standing around waiting for a kickout 3. This is also a livelihood for other players. This is not playing for free for flag and country.


If you play Grizzlies, Warriors or even Wolves, who want to play as fast as they can, what should be your plan? Fast pace or slow pace? For fast pace basketball you need great athletes, who Grizzlies have and Mavs don't. You need totally different roster for that, roster that can survive that pace and play at least decent D. The only D Mavs can decently play with this roster is zone D.

Kyrie is a fantastic iso scorer. He should like a lot playing half court with a lot of spacing and Luka being double teamed.

There's of course way for Mavs to be good fast paced team. Trade Luka and get multiple athletic players for him and then build team around Kyrie. Prime LeBron was an athletic freak.

Basketball, especially playoffs, is not only about what you should do to score more, but about what your opponents like. And playing fast pace basketball just won't work against majority of West playoffs teams.


Point taken.

I view Kyrie in the same lens as I view Allen Iverson. And how he gets the ball through screens is ideal. That's one side of the equation. The other side is Luka doesnt do well on catch and shoot scenarios. He needs to get in rythym with his dribbles. Luckily he's still young enough to figure it out.
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Post#13 » by Bob8 » Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:23 pm

arkuo wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Kyrie's strength is open court basketball. When you slow the game down and focus on half court basketball, you turn Kyrie Irving into a $36M Mike Conley Jr. Denver thrives because Jokic doesn't get the ball for 19 seconds every possession dribbling back and fourth to end up with a step back 3 pointer. The idea is to move the ball around and get other players their touches. Having othet players just stand around is asking them to say no to free money. That's why they want to showcase that they csn do more rather than just standing around waiting for a kickout 3. This is also a livelihood for other players. This is not playing for free for flag and country.


If you play Grizzlies, Warriors or even Wolves, who want to play as fast as they can, what should be your plan? Fast pace or slow pace? For fast pace basketball you need great athletes, who Grizzlies have and Mavs don't. You need totally different roster for that, roster that can survive that pace and play at least decent D. The only D Mavs can decently play with this roster is zone D.

Kyrie is a fantastic iso scorer. He should like a lot playing half court with a lot of spacing and Luka being double teamed.

There's of course way for Mavs to be good fast paced team. Trade Luka and get multiple athletic players for him and then build team around Kyrie. Prime LeBron was an athletic freak.

Basketball, especially playoffs, is not only about what you should do to score more, but about what your opponents like. And playing fast pace basketball just won't work against majority of West playoffs teams.


Point taken.

I view Kyrie in the same lens as I view Allen Iverson. And how he gets the ball through screens is ideal. That's one side of the equation. The other side is Luka doesnt do well on catch and shoot scenarios. He needs to get in rythym with his dribbles. Luckily he's still young enough to figure it out.


Even if Luka becomes good catch and shoot player, you don't want to play fast pace game with those elite fast pace teams.

Coaching staff should figure out what is the best for Mavs, but I believe it's quite obvious that slow pace is beneficial for them until they found a lot better defenders.

It's like people asking, why they don't crash boards more? Because priority is to get back in D as soon as possible. You play like your roster enables you to.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Nuggets (Wednesday, 9PM EST) 

Post#14 » by Mavrelous » Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:06 pm

Mavs killer Reggie Jackson joined the Nuggets, hope he's out, guy turns into Steph when he sees Mavs jersies
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Post#15 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:20 pm

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Post#16 » by arkuo » Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:48 pm

Kyrie lower back tightness is listed as questionable.
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Post#17 » by SecondTake » Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:28 pm

arkuo wrote:Kyrie lower back tightness is listed as questionable.


He wont miss tonight. He knows this game is everything to Luka. Jokic has been robbing Luka of his recognition for years now. He's been the primary obstacle in the way of Luka becoming recognized as the top Europeans player. They're both euro dough boys with similar all around games, but Luka got robbed of the 4 inches Jokic has on him. Jokic always puts those 4 inches to use when floating it over guys or passing it above the defense. Luka sees that. He knows he has the same gift, but God didn't give him the physique of Jokic. Luka is fueled by this like MJ was fueled by Drexlers shooting.

Jokic always had Murray to stomp on Lukas second option, but now Luka has his own second option that he can release onto Murray and neutralize the playing field. It's now even. It's a 1v1. Expect 10+ assists from Luka tonight, no look passes and behind the back throws. He's going to bring out the moves to show he has everything but the inches that Jokic has. Jokic doesn't have the killer instinct though. Jokic is going to treat this game like any other February game, while Luka knows this is one of the most important games of his career so far. He's going to go for the jugular and put Jokic away. Jokic won't even see it coming. His arrogance will cost him. He'll be put in the blender. He will be ISO'd. He'll leave this game different and I don't think he'll be the same player for the rest of the season. They'll call him Nokic, because he'll want no part of the Mavs in the post season after they're through with him tonight.
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Post#19 » by ejs78 » Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:29 pm

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