2023 NFL Draft Thread - Round 1 Thursday 7:00 PM

Ron Swanson · Post #221 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:58 pm

Could easily talk myself into Murphy at 15. At #7 I'd be a little more hesitant. Absolute freak size/speed combo guy, but the biggest worry for me is that he doesn't develop a good counter move. Everything I've seen on tape is him just blowing by his man on the edge with his athleticism. That's gonna work against 90% of D1 college tackles, but it's hard to be a one-trick pony when you go up against the big boys.

Profound23 · Post #222 » by **Profound23** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:07 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Could easily talk myself into Murphy at 15. At #7 I'd be a little more hesitant. Absolute freak size/speed combo guy, but the biggest worry for me is that he doesn't develop a good counter move. Everything I've seen on tape is him just blowing by his man on the edge with his athleticism. That's gonna work against 90% of D1 college tackles, but it's hard to be a one-trick pony when you go up against the big boys.

Yeah that would be my biggest fear. Most of his highlights are just him blowing by the tackle. As we saw with guys like Jamaal Reynolds and KGB that only gets you so far in the NFL.

That play against Zay Flowers sold me on him though.

Profound23 · Post #223 » by **Profound23** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:07 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:I think, with a trade or two, the Packers could go along ways towards rebuilding their offense around a power vertical running game. Invest in a couple offensive linemen, and a couple tight ends.

Total fantasy mock but I moved Rodgers to the Raiders, then traded down. Can you imagine what the Packers would look like if they decided next season they were going to smash teams on the ground, work the middle of the field with a pair of weapons at TE, and hit deep bombs on play action?

Wouldn't mind that strategy at all.

Matches Malone · Post #224 » by **Matches Malone** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:10 pm

I keep coming back to Calijah Kancey. He's such a powerful, athletic freak and despite giving up about 30 pounds to other O-lineman, he still finds a way to bullrush right past them. Will be interesting to see where a team slides him in. He could easily play across our D-Line and if his 40 checks out, he could probably take some reps at edge.

Ron Swanson · Post #225 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:38 pm

I think over the years guys like John Randle, Aaron Donald, Grady Jarrett, Mike Daniels, etc. have shown that size doesn't mean as much playing on the interior. If you think Kancey's got that special pass rushing ability, then draft him.

Profound23 · Post #226 » by **Profound23** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:58 pm

We need to draft a center in the later rounds. I don't think Myers is the answer. Looked decent his rookie season but regressed last season.

Frustrating because most believed Creed Humphrey and Quinn Meinerz were the centers that should have went at that spot and both look like they are head and shoulders above Myers. I hope I am wrong, Myers' size is great but he struggled this year. Too bad he isn't a LT.

Matches Malone · Post #227 » by **Matches Malone** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:37 pm

Profound23 wrote:We need to draft a center in the later rounds. I don't think Myers is the answer. Looked decent his rookie season but regressed last season.

Glad you brought this up. I’ve been drafting John Michael-Schmitz in some of my mocks lol. Myers definitely needs to take it up a notch. I wouldn’t be opposed to trying Elgton there again depending on what happens in FA and the draft.

Profound23 · Post #228 » by **Profound23** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:29 pm

Matches Malone wrote:
Profound23 wrote:We need to draft a center in the later rounds. I don't think Myers is the answer. Looked decent his rookie season but regressed last season.

Glad you brought this up. I’ve been drafting John Michael-Schmitz in some of my mocks lol. Myers definitely needs to take it up a notch. I wouldn’t be opposed to trying Elgton there again depending on what happens in FA and the draft.

Would not mind him or Joe Tippman if they are available later.

Also, to be fair Creed Humphrey sucked in the SB. There were numerous bad snaps that Mahomes was able to snatch up with one hand or keep off the ground. A lesser QB and a couple of those snaps in the SB end up in the hands of the defense.

GiannisAnte34 · Post #229 » by **GiannisAnte34** » Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:07 pm

is there any realistic trade we could make to draft Bryce Young? I am willing to give up a lot to get him

Post #230 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:09 pm

GiannisAnte34 wrote:is there any realistic trade we could make to draft Bryce Young? I am willing to give up a lot to get him

If he falls to #2 and the Packers hold #7 or #13 then yes, pretty easily. But I'd be scared as hell taking him. He's tiny.

Profound23 · Post #231 » by **Profound23** » Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:44 pm

Do not want Bryce Young, Caleb Williams will be a generational talent. "Give Love a chance!"

If he sucks then tank for Caleb.

LUKE23 · Post #232 » by **LUKE23** » Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:41 pm

They aren't taking a QB in this first round. Love will be the guy for sure in 2023 and most likely 2024, at mimium.

jakecronus8 · Post #233 » by **jakecronus8** » Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:56 pm

LUKE23 wrote:They aren't taking a QB in this first round. Love will be the guy for sure in 2023 and most likely 2024, at mimium.

Agreed, and so long as love isn't a total disaster, I think they give him a decent amount of guaranteed in an extension early into next season similar the way they did for Aaron in his first year as starter.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #234 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:02 pm

I don't follow college football so have no opinion on the actual prospects but I see a couple TEs projected mid first. That would be my top positional choice, would be nice to actually have a great TE for a change.

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GiannisAnte34 · Post #235 » by **GiannisAnte34** » Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:20 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
GiannisAnte34 wrote:is there any realistic trade we could make to draft Bryce Young? I am willing to give up a lot to get him

If he falls to #2 and the Packers hold #7 or #13 then yes, pretty easily. But I'd be scared as hell taking him. He's tiny.

Russell Wilson and Drew Brees are tiny too. Even tinier coming into the league.

Post #236 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:32 pm

GiannisAnte34 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
GiannisAnte34 wrote:is there any realistic trade we could make to draft Bryce Young? I am willing to give up a lot to get him

If he falls to #2 and the Packers hold #7 or #13 then yes, pretty easily. But I'd be scared as hell taking him. He's tiny.

Russell Wilson and Drew Brees are tiny too. Even tinier coming into the league.

Nah, it isn't even just height. He's got a small build too. He's going to get destroyed.

GiannisAnte34 · Post #237 » by **GiannisAnte34** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:51 am

ReasonablySober wrote:
GiannisAnte34 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
If he falls to #2 and the Packers hold #7 or #13 then yes, pretty easily. But I'd be scared as hell taking him. He's tiny.

Russell Wilson and Drew Brees are tiny too. Even tinier coming into the league.

Nah, it isn't even just height. He's got a small build too. He's going to get destroyed.

if Young is given a West coast style offense to master, he will be a superstar despite his build

Post #238 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:02 am

GiannisAnte34 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
GiannisAnte34 wrote:
Russell Wilson and Drew Brees are tiny too. Even tinier coming into the league.

Nah, it isn't even just height. He's got a small build too. He's going to get destroyed.

if Young is given a West coast style offense to master, he will be a superstar despite his build

I think he'll be awesome if he's healthy. I don't think anyone disagrees with that. It's just there's no history of a player his size succeeding at QB in the NFL.

Post #239 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:16 pm

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LUKE23 · Post #240 » by **LUKE23** » Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:11 pm

I normally would scoff at this take, but I would be fine with Bijan at 15. He's an elite elite talent, and there just isn't other positions that offer that at #15.