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Re: Waived players tracking thread 

Post#321 » by GoBlue72391 » Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:09 pm

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Is this tampering??

Nah.

Russ is on a team that's about to buy him out. Tampering would be offering him a contract before becoming a free agent.

What is tampering anyway? Whilst Russ was on the Wizards, LeBron and AD went and 'had lunch' with Russ to recruit him to the Lakers, absolutely nothing came of that. Isn't this essentially the same thing but Russ is actually going to be able to make that decision rather than asking to be traded.

A lot of misinformation is being spouted around here. This is absolutely tampering, but that doesn't mean the NBA will enforce it in this situation. They could, however.
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Re: Waived players tracking thread 

Post#322 » by GoBlue72391 » Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:12 pm

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Muzbar wrote:Nah.

Russ is on a team that's about to buy him out. Tampering would be offering him a contract before becoming a free agent.

What is tampering anyway? Whilst Russ was on the Wizards, LeBron and AD went and 'had lunch' with Russ to recruit him to the Lakers, absolutely nothing came of that. Isn't this essentially the same thing but Russ is actually going to be able to make that decision rather than asking to be traded.

Technically it is tampering, Russ is currently on the roster of the Jazz. No one cares since we all know he’s leaving anyway but if the NBA or Jazz wanted to be dicks about it they can definitely fine Donovan along with the bulls and Paul George, Clippers.

But what LeBron and AD did for the Lakers isn't? Where's the line in the sand? This is the same same except Russ is going to be bought out and can sign with whatever team he wants.

For the record, I get that it actually is kinda technically tampering I just find it absurd that the Lakers got away with doing the same thing 2 years ago which was widely publised and it never gets talked about.

The NBA picks and chooses when to enforce it. Just because it wasn't enforced against Person A doesn't mean it won't be enforced against Person B. I'm not saying it's fair, but that's just the way things are.
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Re: Waived players tracking thread 

Post#323 » by GoBlue72391 » Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:13 pm

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Muzbar wrote:Nah.

Russ is on a team that's about to buy him out. Tampering would be offering him a contract before becoming a free agent.

What is tampering anyway? Whilst Russ was on the Wizards, LeBron and AD went and 'had lunch' with Russ to recruit him to the Lakers, absolutely nothing came of that. Isn't this essentially the same thing but Russ is actually going to be able to make that decision rather than asking to be traded.

Technically it is tampering, Russ is currently on the roster of the Jazz. No one cares since we all know he’s leaving anyway but if the NBA or Jazz wanted to be dicks about it they can definitely fine Donovan along with the bulls and Paul George, Clippers.

it's definitely tampering but the jazz would actually have to file a complaint and I really doubt they're trying to screw around Westbrook like that.

I believe the NBA can investigate it on its own, a complaint just brings it to their attention.
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Re: Waived players tracking thread 

Post#324 » by Red8911 » Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:48 pm

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Red8911 wrote:Technically it is tampering, Russ is currently on the roster of the Jazz. No one cares since we all know he’s leaving anyway but if the NBA or Jazz wanted to be dicks about it they can definitely fine Donovan along with the bulls and Paul George, Clippers.

But what LeBron and AD did for the Lakers isn't? Where's the line in the sand? This is the same same except Russ is going to be bought out and can sign with whatever team he wants.

For the record, I get that it actually is kinda technically tampering I just find it absurd that the Lakers got away with doing the same thing 2 years ago which was widely publised and it never gets talked about.

The NBA picks and chooses when to enforce it. Just because it wasn't enforced against Person A doesn't mean it won't be enforced against Person B. I'm not saying it's fair, but that's just the way things are.
That’s total BS though. Bulls shouldn’t have accepted the fine for the Lonzo Ball signing. They should have fought back and accepted only if other past signings or trades were punished as well.

The AD to Lakers one was one of the most obvious ones,there’s clear evidence yet the NBA didn’t bother because of Lebron. Fk Silver and the NBA for picking and choosing who to punish. This is the best league in the world ? What else have they let slide that we don’t even know about?
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Re: Waived players tracking thread 

Post#325 » by HomoSapien » Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:56 pm

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Muzbar wrote:But what LeBron and AD did for the Lakers isn't? Where's the line in the sand? This is the same same except Russ is going to be bought out and can sign with whatever team he wants.

For the record, I get that it actually is kinda technically tampering I just find it absurd that the Lakers got away with doing the same thing 2 years ago which was widely publised and it never gets talked about.

The NBA picks and chooses when to enforce it. Just because it wasn't enforced against Person A doesn't mean it won't be enforced against Person B. I'm not saying it's fair, but that's just the way things are.
That’s total BS though. Bulls shouldn’t have accepted the fine for the Lonzo Ball signing. They should have fought back and accepted only if other past signings or trades were punished as well.

The AD to Lakers one was one of the most obvious ones,there’s clear evidence yet the NBA didn’t bother because of Lebron. Fk Silver and the NBA for picking and choosing who to punish. This is the best league in the world ? What else have they let slide that we don’t even know about?


I’d rather lose a second than make enemies with the NBA and other teams that we’ll need to trade with in the future. We weren’t the first team to get in trouble for tampering and we won’t be the last. Annoying that not everyone gets in trouble for it, but we clearly were doing it and someone complained.
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Re: Waived players tracking thread 

Post#326 » by _txchilibowl_ » Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:00 pm

Seriously who cares if it's tampering? Pay the fine and cough up the second round pick and be done with it.
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Re: Waived players tracking thread 

Post#327 » by fleet » Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:01 pm

Whoever complained is a competitor for him possibly. Perhaps they see the Bulls a significant opponent.
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Re: Waived players tracking thread 

Post#328 » by Red8911 » Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:25 pm

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Re: Waived players tracking thread 

Post#329 » by Muzbar » Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:29 pm

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KC saying the same. Waiting on Russ to decide, if he doesn’t come then they will go for John Wall or Beverley.

Well, that's his 'informed guess' on what they'll do.
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Re: Waived players tracking thread 

Post#330 » by GoBlue72391 » Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:38 pm

Red8911 wrote:
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Muzbar wrote:But what LeBron and AD did for the Lakers isn't? Where's the line in the sand? This is the same same except Russ is going to be bought out and can sign with whatever team he wants.

For the record, I get that it actually is kinda technically tampering I just find it absurd that the Lakers got away with doing the same thing 2 years ago which was widely publised and it never gets talked about.

The NBA picks and chooses when to enforce it. Just because it wasn't enforced against Person A doesn't mean it won't be enforced against Person B. I'm not saying it's fair, but that's just the way things are.
That’s total BS though. Bulls shouldn’t have accepted the fine for the Lonzo Ball signing. They should have fought back and accepted only if other past signings or trades were punished as well.

The AD to Lakers one was one of the most obvious ones,there’s clear evidence yet the NBA didn’t bother because of Lebron. Fk Silver and the NBA for picking and choosing who to punish. This is the best league in the world ? What else have they let slide that we don’t even know about?

Surely you've learned by now that life isn't always fair? The NBA is no different.

I don't even think the Bulls organization had the option of fighting it. When the commish passes over their pick in the 2nd round, what were they gonna do? Have AKME run out on stage and say "Nah uh! It's our pick, we're on the clock!"
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Re: Waived players tracking thread 

Post#331 » by GoBlue72391 » Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:38 pm

_txchilibowl_ wrote:Seriously who cares if it's tampering? Pay the fine and cough up the second round pick and be done with it.

Yes, let's throw away assets for a player we could have gotten for free. Brilliant!
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Re: Waived players tracking thread 

Post#332 » by FriedRise » Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:54 pm

I wonder how much the Billy Donovan connection weighs into Russ' decision of which team to go with. I feel like certain players gravitate to certain coaches, especially if they found the most success under them. It's kinda like how DRose just sticks around whatever team Thibs is coaching even after having short stints with other teams (Cleveland, Minnesota, Detroit).

Not saying they're gonna find their MVP form again (DRose didn't), but if you have a coach who just gets you and will always have your back, wouldn't you rather stick around with them? Especially after the traumatic experience with LeBron's Lakers, maybe you just wanna get away from it all and play ball. The Bulls are as under the radar as they come.
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Re: Waived players tracking thread 

Post#333 » by HomoSapien » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:52 pm

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Re: Waived players tracking thread 

Post#334 » by kodo » Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:33 pm

Shams:
“When you look at teams around the league, there’s not a spot for Russell Westbrook… if he had a home by now, the Jazz would’ve bought him out. It’s a slow moving market, and we’ll see if he'll be able to find a home”


Oddly conflicts with all the news that the Bulls actively want Westbrook. Well at the very least, if the Bulls want him it doesn't look like there will be much competition. Shams also said the Clippers are looking for someone who can hit 3s and play defense...basically said he doesn't want Russell.
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Re: Waived players tracking thread 

Post#335 » by MGB8 » Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:08 am

kodo wrote:Shams:
“When you look at teams around the league, there’s not a spot for Russell Westbrook… if he had a home by now, the Jazz would’ve bought him out. It’s a slow moving market, and we’ll see if he'll be able to find a home”


Oddly conflicts with all the news that the Bulls actively want Westbrook. Well at the very least, if the Bulls want him it doesn't look like there will be much competition. Shams also said the Clippers are looking for someone who can hit 3s and play defense...basically said he doesn't want Russell.


Good. Would love the Bulls to get him. Doubt he would want to come, though. Yeah, the fit is awful - but at least he isn't mentally weak like everyone currently on the Bulls roster. And would give more data for evaluation purposes - how much playing with a pg would improve the team, or whether they really are all... non-winners.
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Post#337 » by Axl Rose » Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:17 am

kodo wrote:Shams:
“When you look at teams around the league, there’s not a spot for Russell Westbrook… if he had a home by now, the Jazz would’ve bought him out. It’s a slow moving market, and we’ll see if he'll be able to find a home”


Oddly conflicts with all the news that the Bulls actively want Westbrook. Well at the very least, if the Bulls want him it doesn't look like there will be much competition. Shams also said the Clippers are looking for someone who can hit 3s and play defense...basically said he doesn't want Russell.


Sounds like his opinion or, and i don't blame him, Russ doesn't want to join this dumpster fire.
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Re: Waived players tracking thread 

Post#338 » by prolific passer » Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:36 am

Russ gonna choose a fringe playoff team or a legit playoff team?
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Re: Waived players tracking thread 

Post#339 » by _txchilibowl_ » Thu Feb 16, 2023 2:41 am

GoBlue72391 wrote:
_txchilibowl_ wrote:Seriously who cares if it's tampering? Pay the fine and cough up the second round pick and be done with it.

Yes, let's throw away assets for a player we could have gotten for free. Brilliant!



No need to be condescending. I was just pointing out the laughable overreacting happening here.
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