2023 NBA Draft

[EvanZ]

Bro I'm not quoting you for a reason - you are saying nothing. You make a metric ton of wild assumptions about posters you know nothing about, yet have made zero points beyond those literally every single person here recognizes.

And yet you never actually address my concerns. You just keep saying "Bro" bro.

To be clear, my question is "Do you understand the difference between winning in college and the NBA?"

Not sure how to help you understand how wildly uninterested I am in having that conversation with you.

You seem interested though. You keep replying.


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[EvanZ]

Tbf the arguments against have been pretty generic - everyone understands his weak spots. Is there a ton of evidence of his team getting killed in transition, the team's defense getting worse with him on the court, etc? Serious question.

Because the team got rid of Jayden Ivey and Trevion Williams and got dramatically better on defense with Edey taking over the front court. So that doesn't answer the question of will he be playable on D but I haven't seen anything concrete in the other direction either in here despite a lot of protestations.

if you understand his weak spots then you should understand why he shouldn't be a lotto pick.

how about you put your word where ur mouth is - how high are taking Edey?

Lol I 1). already did and 2)., never stated I thought he was a lotto pick. Can people not follow a conversation or read/write basic English on this board to save their lives? Holy ****.

If you don’t think he’s a Lottery pick why are you still having this debate? You’re a masochist?


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[clyde21]

Tbf the arguments against have been pretty generic - everyone understands his weak spots. Is there a ton of evidence of his team getting killed in transition, the team's defense getting worse with him on the court, etc? Serious question.

Because the team got rid of Jayden Ivey and Trevion Williams and got dramatically better on defense with Edey taking over the front court. So that doesn't answer the question of will he be playable on D but I haven't seen anything concrete in the other direction either in here despite a lot of protestations.

if you understand his weak spots then you should understand why he shouldn't be a lotto pick.

how about you put your word where ur mouth is - how high are taking Edey?

Lol I 1). already did and 2)., never stated I thought he was a lotto pick. Can people not follow a conversation or read/write basic English on this board to save their lives? Holy ****.

im confused as to what you're doing/arguing at this point if you agree he's not a lotto pick.

[EvanZ]

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I was all ready to rip on this because I think Jett is a better prospect, but Bufkin has been on my radar for a while now. He's a super young Sophomore (Sep '03) which is basically Freshman-aged. Obviously would like to see more shooting.

[The-Power]

if he doesn't develop as a shooter he's still a guy that can break defenses down and run some offense for you. situational guard that can be extremely useful off the bench. but second half of lotto I am willing to make this bet.

but again, isn't the lack of shooting already priced in the eval? that's why no one's talking about him as a top 5 or top 10 guy, but as a second half of lotto guy that imo should be a convo given everything else he brings to the table and projectablility.

My guess is that yes, it is priced in the evaluation, and that's why nobody is talking about him as a lottery pick. I suppose others (at least that's true for myself) just knock him down more for his inability and unwillingness to shoot than you are. It's just a very problematic archetype in the NBA and players that don't evolve in outlier ways could easily wash out of the NBA rather quickly.

[Big J]

if he doesn't develop as a shooter he's still a guy that can break defenses down and run some offense for you. situational guard that can be extremely useful off the bench. but second half of lotto I am willing to make this bet.

but again, isn't the lack of shooting already priced in the eval? that's why no one's talking about him as a top 5 or top 10 guy, but as a second half of lotto guy that imo should be a convo given everything else he brings to the table and projectablility.

My guess is that yes, it is priced in the evaluation, and that's why nobody is talking about him as a lottery pick. I suppose others (at least that's true for myself) just knock him down more for his inability and unwillingness to shoot than you are. It's just a very problematic archetype in the NBA and players that don't evolve in outlier ways could easily wash out of the NBA rather quickly.

The current NBA you need to either be able to shoot 3's or do like 5 different things at an elite level or else you're not gonna make it.

[CptCrunch]

how is Mintz still not being discussed as a lotto pick?

Being a guard from Syracuse, your ceiling automatically starts at 15. We call it the Syracuse discount. We are not even sure if basketball is being played at Syracuse, or they might be playing some version of 'Jimboball'.

[CP War Hawks]

I like Edey for certain teams only. He's still 20 and has made big improvements every season. Strictly a 2nd rd only unless he just comes into the combine in outstanding shape. I also like the Creighton big if he can shoot it from range.

[ItsDanger]

I like Edey for certain teams only. He's still 20 and has made big improvements every season. Strictly a 2nd rd only unless he just comes into the combine in outstanding shape. I also like the Creighton big if he can shoot it from range.

Edey plays 30+ minutes, sometimes entire 2nd half at 300 lbs. His conditioning is probably better than a lot of smaller players. Kalkbrenner hasn't impressed me but I could see a role in NBA for him.

[CP War Hawks]

I like Edey for certain teams only. He's still 20 and has made big improvements every season. Strictly a 2nd rd only unless he just comes into the combine in outstanding shape. I also like the Creighton big if he can shoot it from range.

Edey plays 30+ minutes, sometimes entire 2nd half at 300 lbs. His conditioning is probably better than a lot of smaller players. Kalkbrenner hasn't impressed me but I could see a role in NBA for him.

His stamina is not the main concern but all the bigs in the NBA are svelte and will run him out of the building. I would want him at or below 275 in hopes of gaining more athleticism. If everything folds right I can see the next iteration of Big Z.

[EvanZ]

I like Edey for certain teams only. He's still 20 and has made big improvements every season. Strictly a 2nd rd only unless he just comes into the combine in outstanding shape. I also like the Creighton big if he can shoot it from range.

Kalkbrenner really can't do much on offense. I like him because he plays the game super fundamentally sound. But he's limited. I'd probably take Castleton over him.

[CP War Hawks]

I like Edey for certain teams only. He's still 20 and has made big improvements every season. Strictly a 2nd rd only unless he just comes into the combine in outstanding shape. I also like the Creighton big if he can shoot it from range.

Kalkbrenner really can't do much on offense. I like him because he plays the game super fundamentally sound. But he's limited. I'd probably take Castleton over him.

I'd take your word for it, I don't watch any of these college guys until March... the Alexander kid from Creighton has really caught my eye mainly. I'd hope he has pg skills not sure. I think both of them can make names for themselves with a good tourney run.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

For as trash as the league they play in is, whenever I see Amen Thompson highlights the more dude looks like a 6'7 Russ. Just flying out there at insane speed

[CoreyVillains]

Broke down some film with the Ignite's Sidy Cissoko recently. Great kid with great size and some interesting tools.

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[EvanZ]

How would you compare Cissoko to AJG?

[CoreyVillains]

How would you compare Cissoko to AJG?

Don't think they're all that comparable. AJ is a significantly better shooter. Sidy has more feel with the ball in his hands and has more potential as a defender. But he's going to have to knock down shots to get on the floor. Maybe Dalen Terry is a more apt comp.

[God Squad]

Does Donavon Clingan have a place in the league? Looks more mobile to me than Edey.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Does Donavon Clingan have a place in the league? Looks more mobile to me than Edey.

Neither he nor Edey move the needle for me. I’d much rather take a big like Castleton or Tristan Vukčević

[JMAC3]

Am I crazy or is there not a Scoot thread?

[CP War Hawks]

We need an updated intl list. I'm on the Bilal and Rupert train.