RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Nuggets (Wednesday, 9PM EST)

[kacey ring]

Points in the paint allowed:
Nuggets - 64
Twolves - 64
Kings - 74
Kings - 54
Clippers - 34
Jazz - 62

Prior to tonight, Spurs allow most points in the paint per game at 56. 4, and almost 5, of our last 6 games exceed that mark.

[arkuo]

Points in the paint allowed:
Nuggets - 64
Twolves - 64
Kings - 74
Kings - 54
Clippers - 34
Jazz - 62

Prior to tonight, Spurs allow most points in the paint per game at 56. 4, and almost 5, of our last 6 games exceed that mark.

They definitely need to get a defensive big man in the summer. Kyrie and Luka has guards driving past them so a defensive big needs to do help defense.

[JWillTheFreak]

Wood needs to start because at least he can score... we don't play defense anyway. Only way we win if we out score the other team... also green and bullock couldn't hit nothing.

[ejs78]

Missed the game so I listed to the Mavs Moneyball game pod:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5EsQupENu9uIK2TEpDEkhQ?si=Jz-YkkOoT8S0TwddvNa-Rw

Good stuff on Wood

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[SOUNDCHASER]

Player Grades for the game and its is either an A or an F.

If you don't do enough to get an A you get an F we had 6 of 11 guys who got an A so 5 got an F.

Most of us are worried about the bigs and it was not the bigs who screwed the pooch tonight so we cannot lay this loss it at them. McGee was only allowed to play for a little over 9 minutes and I wonder when he and Wood are going to get more respect from this coach so that they can make a difference and help us win. To me the guys who got an F they need to shoulder some of the blame for things not working out. Our 3 bigs all got an A and played 52.34 minutes and in that time we saw them grab 17 boards right at about the standard of one rebound for every 3 minutes. Jokic scored just 14 points so the defense on him was good enough and that usually means our bigs did well.

Jokic 6'11", Porter 6'10", and Bryant 6'10" played the bigs for DEN tonight and they got a total of 82 min 49 sec. so Kidd let our team suffer a size disadvantage for 30 minutes with a 2 bigs VS one big situation. That matchup mismatch went on for a good amount of time and that is crazy of him to let that sort of thing happen. I have been a huge critic of Powell and he had 10 boards and 8 points while Jokic only got 14 points and 13 rebounds and Jokic played for 34 minutes to Powell's 21 minutes so if you ask me our bigs outplayed the other team on a per minute basis so if that is happening why the heck is Kidd not playing our bigs more? They are outperforming the other teams bigs on a per minute basis so it might just happen they continue to outperform the other team on the court if we gave them the same 30 minutes that Denver was giving their bigs.

Just a thought and if you get a chance to put that fact in Kidds ear as a journalist who can ask questions after a game maybe you share that fact with him.

The 6 who get an A
Luka 37-9-4
McGee 3 rebounds and 5 points 1 block in 9 plus minutes
Powell 10 rebounds and 8 points
AJ hitting his shots 10 points on 66.7 FG% 2 of 3 on 3's and did it in 12 1/2 mins
Wright 2/2 on 3's 11 points 4 assists in almost 13 minutes
Wood 17 points and 4 rebounds 2nd best scorer behind Luka so he pulled a lot of the weight with the scoring and that was needed. We need to run more possessions through Wood.

Porter and Green plus KCP killed us and Jokic was having a mediocre game so we should have won this they did out rebound us getting 10 more boards but that differential was due to Kidd not playing our bigs enough minutes.

At 3 rebounds per minute 30 more minutes would have us making an additional 10 rebounds so we would have tied them on rebounds and if that extra time is going to result in outr team maybe out performing the pathetic shooting percentage that our F troop was creating since McGee hit 66.7% wood who shot a lot of 3's was 46.2% overall and Powell hit 100% on his shooting
the %'s of our F troopers had a zero FG% a couple 25% a 20% and the highlight was 33.3% from Frank.

Green Bullock Frank who was starting in place of Irving ( hey Kidd we seem to have better options what up) and Theo and Hardy they are stunk it up tonight and maybe we need to wait and see the two young guys develop a bit more consistency before we hail them as the future of the franchise.

Only keepers I see on the team are the consistent guys who get an A every game and rarely get F's

Wright and AJ seem to be more consistent than some of the others. Mcgee and Wood are catching hell for their game but they are always doing enough to get an A in my book

Luka and Irving are our core that we need to build around but the young guys Green and Hardy need to step it up and show us the kind of energy we should see. If your shot is weak on the night you need to make an impact on the game in other ways and that was not really happening if you ask me.

Bottom line we wanted to see the team win against Denver but the role players we trusted to do well failed to do so 3 of them were starters and that sucks. Our bigs are not as bad as we have been claiming they cant be blamed for this loss. Kidd and his trusting tonights F troop coupled with his lack of faith in our bigs seems to be the cause of our losing this game.

[41Dirk41]

Frank 22 mins, Pinson 20 mins................. Wood 21 mins.

And how the hell did Doncic manage to get 9 assists with these idiotic lineups that Kidd brought out today.

Kidd is trying to get fired and i think he does a good job.

[41Dirk41]

I can understand let play the young guys like AJ, Hardy and Green but Frank/Theo aren't NBA players.

It's useless give them minutes.

I would like too see the best players on the court, not kidd and Cuban friends.

[dirkules_41]

Missed the game so I listed to the Mavs Moneyball game pod:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5EsQupENu9uIK2TEpDEkhQ?si=Jz-YkkOoT8S0TwddvNa-Rw

Good stuff on Wood

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5 line summary by any chance on the Wood topic?

[dirkules_41]

Points in the paint allowed:
Nuggets - 64
Twolves - 64
Kings - 74
Kings - 54
Clippers - 34
Jazz - 62

Prior to tonight, Spurs allow most points in the paint per game at 56. 4, and almost 5, of our last 6 games exceed that mark.

I'd bet the rebounding statistics speak a very similar language. And all of that correlates positively to winning or losing. The eyeball test surely suggests it.

Quick check on statmuse... https://www.statmuse.com/nba/team/2021-22-dallas-mavericks-46/stats/2023

OREB DREB REB
Team 8.0 30.7 38.7
Team Rank 29th 29th 30th
Opponent 9.7 34.1 43.8
Opponent Rank 6th 25th 18th
Net -1.7 -3.4 -5.1
Net Rank 27th 30th 30th

Good thing our FO prioritised big man reinforcements. I doubt having Maxi healthy can fix this other than maybe bumping it from 30th to 25th... not sure you can win anything with rebounding this poor.

Steals and blocks we rank 25th and 26th respectively.

[Mavrelous]

Missed the game so I listed to the Mavs Moneyball game pod:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5EsQupENu9uIK2TEpDEkhQ?si=Jz-YkkOoT8S0TwddvNa-Rw

Good stuff on Wood

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5 line summary by any chance on the Wood topic?

For some weird reason, they went on a crusade on CWood because:
1. He doesn't box out
2. He's lost in space on defense
3. His agent is a pain in the behind

The truth is, and they mentioned it, Kidd is sabotaging the team, on a day the team is missing this many players, Wood should play 40 minutes, not 22, Kidds lineup are a protest over the circumstances rather than an attempt to make the best of what he has, I'm over this expirement, just like Wood isn't a long term piece, Kidd also isn't.
Yes, his shortcomings are known, yes, he's not a franchise cornerstone, but he's useful and should play more.

[arkuo]

Missed the game so I listed to the Mavs Moneyball game pod:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5EsQupENu9uIK2TEpDEkhQ?si=Jz-YkkOoT8S0TwddvNa-Rw

Good stuff on Wood

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5 line summary by any chance on the Wood topic?

For some weird reason, they went on a crusade on CWood because:
1. He doesn't box out
2. He's lost in space on defense
3. His agent is a pain in the behind

The truth is, and they mentioned it, Kidd is sabotaging the team, on a day the team is missing this many players, Wood should play 40 minutes, not 22, Kidds lineup are a protest over the circumstances rather than an attempt to make the best of what he has, I'm over this expirement, just like Wood isn't a long term piece, Kidd also isn't.
Yes, his shortcomings are known, yes, he's not a franchise cornerstone, but he's useful and should play more.

Wood seems to have his own agenda and that is to get paid this summer. So he tries to score a lot because people get paid by scoring points. On the other hand, Kidd wants him to do the dirty work with rebounding, boxing out and getting people to miss shots at the rim. Those things arent shown on the box score. So I guess these two have different agendas. So Kidd's on position to say well if you cant do what Im telling you to do on the court, then you come off the bench. Wood just likes to hang around the 3 point line so he can shoot open threes. He sets softs screens and barely rebounds. Always seems to chase after homerun plays like three balls. Those get players paid.

[dirkules_41]

5 line summary by any chance on the Wood topic?

For some weird reason, they went on a crusade on CWood because:
1. He doesn't box out
2. He's lost in space on defense
3. His agent is a pain in the behind

The truth is, and they mentioned it, Kidd is sabotaging the team, on a day the team is missing this many players, Wood should play 40 minutes, not 22, Kidds lineup are a protest over the circumstances rather than an attempt to make the best of what he has, I'm over this expirement, just like Wood isn't a long term piece, Kidd also isn't.
Yes, his shortcomings are known, yes, he's not a franchise cornerstone, but he's useful and should play more.

Wood seems to have his own agenda and that is to get paid this summer. So he tries to score a lot because people get paid by scoring points. On the other hand, Kidd wants him to do the dirty work with rebounding, boxing out and getting people to miss shots at the rim. Those things arent shown on the box score. So I guess these two have different agendas. So Kidd's on position to say well if you cant do what Im telling you to do on the court, then you come off the bench. Wood just likes to hang around the 3 point line so he can shoot open threes. He sets softs screens and barely rebounds. Always seems to chase after homerun plays like three balls. Those get players paid.

Yeah but man, like Mavrelous said... you gotta use people to the best of their abilities. Yes, they should work on their shortcomings but Wood is a beast on offense and a valuable asset and is being completely mismanaged by Kidd. It's not like he's playing behind Jokic and Evan Mobley. He's playing behind 2 absolute scrubs that wouldn't see more than 10min a night on any respectable front court rotation.

[Mavrelous]

5 line summary by any chance on the Wood topic?

For some weird reason, they went on a crusade on CWood because:
1. He doesn't box out
2. He's lost in space on defense
3. His agent is a pain in the behind

The truth is, and they mentioned it, Kidd is sabotaging the team, on a day the team is missing this many players, Wood should play 40 minutes, not 22, Kidds lineup are a protest over the circumstances rather than an attempt to make the best of what he has, I'm over this expirement, just like Wood isn't a long term piece, Kidd also isn't.
Yes, his shortcomings are known, yes, he's not a franchise cornerstone, but he's useful and should play more.

Wood seems to have his own agenda and that is to get paid this summer. So he tries to score a lot because people get paid by scoring points. On the other hand, Kidd wants him to do the dirty work with rebounding, boxing out and getting people to miss shots at the rim. Those things arent shown on the box score. So I guess these two have different agendas. So Kidd's on position to say well if you cant do what Im telling you to do on the court, then you come off the bench. Wood just likes to hang around the 3 point line so he can shoot open threes. He sets softs screens and barely rebounds. Always seems to chase after homerun plays like three balls. Those get players paid.

Kyrie, Maxi, THJ and Bertans were out, 2 roster spots were not usable between Morris and Holiday, Wood needed to play.
It's clear he's 99% out next year, but for this game (and many others), he is Mavs best chance to win, Kidd insists on decreasing Mavs chances to win, self sabotaging head coach is not contender material, and he's not good enough offensively to justify his bitter and passive aggressive approach to dealing with players.

[arkuo]

For some weird reason, they went on a crusade on CWood because:
1. He doesn't box out
2. He's lost in space on defense
3. His agent is a pain in the behind

The truth is, and they mentioned it, Kidd is sabotaging the team, on a day the team is missing this many players, Wood should play 40 minutes, not 22, Kidds lineup are a protest over the circumstances rather than an attempt to make the best of what he has, I'm over this expirement, just like Wood isn't a long term piece, Kidd also isn't.
Yes, his shortcomings are known, yes, he's not a franchise cornerstone, but he's useful and should play more.

Wood seems to have his own agenda and that is to get paid this summer. So he tries to score a lot because people get paid by scoring points. On the other hand, Kidd wants him to do the dirty work with rebounding, boxing out and getting people to miss shots at the rim. Those things arent shown on the box score. So I guess these two have different agendas. So Kidd's on position to say well if you cant do what Im telling you to do on the court, then you come off the bench. Wood just likes to hang around the 3 point line so he can shoot open threes. He sets softs screens and barely rebounds. Always seems to chase after homerun plays like three balls. Those get players paid.

Kyrie, Maxi, THJ and Bertans were out, 2 roster spots were not usable between Morris and Holiday, Wood needed to play.
It's clear he's 99% out next year, but for this game (and many others), he is Mavs best chance to win, Kidd insists on decreasing Mavs chances to win, self sabotaging head coach is not contender material, and he's not good enough offensively to justify his bitter and passive aggressive approach to dealing with players.

This is Kidd's ego in play. He's got a player that won't listen to his instructions so he's in the dog house. Nico needs to look ahead maybe work on a S&T. But there are not a lot of takers for Wood, so he might just actually walk. As seen during the TDL, not a single team wanted him. He needs to play out of his mind in the playoffs or his contract trajectory will be similar to Nerlens Noel

[dirkules_41]

Wood seems to have his own agenda and that is to get paid this summer. So he tries to score a lot because people get paid by scoring points. On the other hand, Kidd wants him to do the dirty work with rebounding, boxing out and getting people to miss shots at the rim. Those things arent shown on the box score. So I guess these two have different agendas. So Kidd's on position to say well if you cant do what Im telling you to do on the court, then you come off the bench. Wood just likes to hang around the 3 point line so he can shoot open threes. He sets softs screens and barely rebounds. Always seems to chase after homerun plays like three balls. Those get players paid.

Kyrie, Maxi, THJ and Bertans were out, 2 roster spots were not usable between Morris and Holiday, Wood needed to play.
It's clear he's 99% out next year, but for this game (and many others), he is Mavs best chance to win, Kidd insists on decreasing Mavs chances to win, self sabotaging head coach is not contender material, and he's not good enough offensively to justify his bitter and passive aggressive approach to dealing with players.

This is Kidd's ego in play. He's got a player that won't listen to his instructions so he's in the dog house. Nico needs to look ahead maybe work on a S&T. But there are not a lot of takers for Wood, so he might just actually walk. As seen during the TDL, not a single team wanted him. He needs to play out of his mind in the playoffs or his contract trajectory will be similar to Nerlens Noel

Not a single team wanted him for whatever we were seeking in return. He's clearly a very useful player if coached properly in a winning environment.

[Bob8]

Wood seems to have his own agenda and that is to get paid this summer. So he tries to score a lot because people get paid by scoring points. On the other hand, Kidd wants him to do the dirty work with rebounding, boxing out and getting people to miss shots at the rim. Those things arent shown on the box score. So I guess these two have different agendas. So Kidd's on position to say well if you cant do what Im telling you to do on the court, then you come off the bench. Wood just likes to hang around the 3 point line so he can shoot open threes. He sets softs screens and barely rebounds. Always seems to chase after homerun plays like three balls. Those get players paid.

Kyrie, Maxi, THJ and Bertans were out, 2 roster spots were not usable between Morris and Holiday, Wood needed to play.
It's clear he's 99% out next year, but for this game (and many others), he is Mavs best chance to win, Kidd insists on decreasing Mavs chances to win, self sabotaging head coach is not contender material, and he's not good enough offensively to justify his bitter and passive aggressive approach to dealing with players.

This is Kidd's ego in play. He's got a player that won't listen to his instructions so he's in the dog house. Nico needs to look ahead maybe work on a S&T. But there are not a lot of takers for Wood, so he might just actually walk. As seen during the TDL, not a single team wanted him. He needs to play out of his mind in the playoffs or his contract trajectory will be similar to Nerlens Noel

I wouldn't give new contract to Wood, something just feels wrong with his game. But my question is, what have they expected from him, when they gave FRP for him? Did they expected to change his game entirely? Because he's doing exactly what they should have expected, he is even more efficient than in previous teams.

[UglyBugBall]

Kyrie, Maxi, THJ and Bertans were out, 2 roster spots were not usable between Morris and Holiday, Wood needed to play.
It's clear he's 99% out next year, but for this game (and many others), he is Mavs best chance to win, Kidd insists on decreasing Mavs chances to win, self sabotaging head coach is not contender material, and he's not good enough offensively to justify his bitter and passive aggressive approach to dealing with players.

This is Kidd's ego in play. He's got a player that won't listen to his instructions so he's in the dog house. Nico needs to look ahead maybe work on a S&T. But there are not a lot of takers for Wood, so he might just actually walk. As seen during the TDL, not a single team wanted him. He needs to play out of his mind in the playoffs or his contract trajectory will be similar to Nerlens Noel

I wouldn't give new contract to Wood, something just feels wrong with his game. But my question is, what have they expected from him, when they gave FRP for him? Did they expected to change his game entirely? Because he's doing exactly what they should have expected, he is even more efficient than in previous teams.

What exactly seems wrong with his game?

[Bob8]

This is Kidd's ego in play. He's got a player that won't listen to his instructions so he's in the dog house. Nico needs to look ahead maybe work on a S&T. But there are not a lot of takers for Wood, so he might just actually walk. As seen during the TDL, not a single team wanted him. He needs to play out of his mind in the playoffs or his contract trajectory will be similar to Nerlens Noel

I wouldn't give new contract to Wood, something just feels wrong with his game. But my question is, what have they expected from him, when they gave FRP for him? Did they expected to change his game entirely? Because he's doing exactly what they should have expected, he is even more efficient than in previous teams.

What exactly seems wrong with his game?

He doesn't look as a team player to me and he gives you near 0 in D, his only real value is being microwave scorer, exactly how Kidd is using him. Mavs are his 7th team and he will be in 8th next year. Do you really believe that everyone has the wrong opinion about him?

[ejs78]

I wouldn't give new contract to Wood, something just feels wrong with his game. But my question is, what have they expected from him, when they gave FRP for him? Did they expected to change his game entirely? Because he's doing exactly what they should have expected, he is even more efficient than in previous teams.

What exactly seems wrong with his game?

He doesn't look as a team player to me and he gives you near 0 in D, his only real value is being microwave scorer, exactly how Kidd is using him. Mavs are his 7th team and he will be in 8th next year. Do you really believe that everyone has the wrong opinion about him?

This is pretty spot on.

Wood is out for himself and that's it. There's a big enough sample size in the league on him to know what he's about. As I've said before no winning team this summer is going to clear cap space for him and he'll likely end back up on a losing team.

He's not a useful player in a winning environment or another team over the last few years would have wanted him when the Rockets were looking to move him. I do believe he could play 3-5 min more a game to about 25 min but thats not what his ego or agent want.

I get it we all like new players and offense but Wood is kinda a bad vibes guy who's faults outweigh his positives.

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[Apz]

Loys of bs here today. Not surprised, its as usual after a loss. Have to throw someone under the bus after a loss I suppose.

Wood proved up til he got injured that he tries on defense and tries to play team ball. What did it get him? The love from fans, but a lowball offer from fo and tried to trade him, and lost his starting spot. What choice does he actually have now if he want to get a good contract this summer?

Im on woods side. I want him to start. If we follow some heres suggestion and get a def only center our offense will be dead. Its back to those 90-95 points games if we gonna play 4 on 5 in offense, with 2 great getting to the rim guys having the paint clogged by some big lumbering idiot. I know, mavs forum standard have fallen thru the floor, its like knicks and lakers hottakes these day and barely bearable. But god, its a miserable bunch around these days.