Lakers Trade IDEAS

[cheese318]

What do you mean nothing? Bamba gives them much needed size when AD is off the court. Is this a title bound team probably not but they are a much better team for tomorrow and the future longterm. Plus they didn’t have to trade 2029 FRP to do everything they did. Can’t really destroy Pelinka for getting out of the mess he was in and I’m his biggest critic. See how cheap Jeanie Buss is this off-season because she is always coupon clipping instead of trying to win

Realistically. The only improves are Vanderbilt and Hachimura and take out Westbrook of the team two years later. The team was better with Bryant and Beverley than with Bamba. Bamba is not going to play nothing I can tell you. He didn't play in Orlando because he was useless he is worst than Bryant, Bryant is a much better offensive player and at least know how to play. Then you have two players in Malik Beasley and D-Lo how are pretty irregular both. Malik Beasley I don't know what the people know about him but he always has been a bench player with good or bad games but nothing consistent.

I thought the trades of Bryant and Beverley was to improve the roster to get good players who can help make a competitive roster more when you have the rounds and assest to trade for good players not make it worst than yesterday.

Yeah, not a fan of the Orlando trade either. When Mo Wagner is playing more minutes and the young Bamba on his 4th year just playing 17 minutes, I can't help but wonder if there is something wrong with this guy. He's a young athletic 7-0 center who can shoots a decent % and yet barely being used by a young team.
I am one of the few who likes Pat Bev, Yes, can be irritating to even Lakers fans but the guy tries very hard and he has been shooting fairly well after the horrible Oct-Nov. The problem was Ham kept using him to defend prolific forwards who are 5-7 inches taller than him. Darvin too for some reason hated to play Thomas Bryant when AD is on the floor, don't know why, but he just looks useless lately.

Bryant was an awful defensive player and lacked size which Bamba will bring. Another key element is Bryant is outplaying his contract and they could not afford to resign him. Bringing in Bamba and his no guaranteed contract is a great move for today and the off-season

[tamaraw08]

Realistically. The only improves are Vanderbilt and Hachimura and take out Westbrook of the team two years later. The team was better with Bryant and Beverley than with Bamba. Bamba is not going to play nothing I can tell you. He didn't play in Orlando because he was useless he is worst than Bryant, Bryant is a much better offensive player and at least know how to play. Then you have two players in Malik Beasley and D-Lo how are pretty irregular both. Malik Beasley I don't know what the people know about him but he always has been a bench player with good or bad games but nothing consistent.

I thought the trades of Bryant and Beverley was to improve the roster to get good players who can help make a competitive roster more when you have the rounds and assest to trade for good players not make it worst than yesterday.

Yeah, not a fan of the Orlando trade either. When Mo Wagner is playing more minutes and the young Bamba on his 4th year just playing 17 minutes, I can't help but wonder if there is something wrong with this guy. He's a young athletic 7-0 center who can shoots a decent % and yet barely being used by a young team.
I am one of the few who likes Pat Bev, Yes, can be irritating to even Lakers fans but the guy tries very hard and he has been shooting fairly well after the horrible Oct-Nov. The problem was Ham kept using him to defend prolific forwards who are 5-7 inches taller than him. Darvin too for some reason hated to play Thomas Bryant when AD is on the floor, don't know why, but he just looks useless lately.

Bryant was an awful defensive player and lacked size which Bamba will bring. Another key element is Bryant is outplaying his contract and they could not afford to resign him. Bringing in Bamba and his no guaranteed contract is a great move for today and the off-season

Wiseman and Damian Jones have both the size and athleticism and yet their teams traded them. Again I’m concerned about why a journeyman like Mo Wagner is playing more minutes than him. At least Bryant have showed flashes in how he can contribute esp if Davis is not playing.

[cheese318]

Again Bryant was going to be lost for nothing this off-season. Do you understand that aspect? Bryant is purely offensive and was very undersized when playing against a team with a big center. This will be helpful in the paint and also rebounding hopefully. I understand Bamba isn’t highly regarded but I always thought he was being misused in ORL. Bamba averaged 10.6/8.8 w/ 1.7 blocks last year with 25 mpg shooting 38% from three on four attempts per game. He’s shootings close to 40% from three this year but with fewer attempts per game (2.7) which is prob because his minutes per game dropped to 17. I just think we need to take a wait and see approach to see what he can do on the court. I liked this move personally

[loveshaq786]

for those that are interested:

Lakers traded Kuzma, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Montrezl Harrell, Juan Toscano-Anderson, Damian Jones, 2021 FRP (Isiah Jackson), a second round pick, and another first-round pick in the 2027 draft ..... for D'Angelo Russell, Malik Beasley, Jarred Vanderbilt and a second-round pick

[LAKESHOW]

Well, when you put it like that....

[IceManBK1]

i think we should decline beasley's TO in the summer and sign Josh Richardson with the money. Richardson struggling with Pelicans right now. But he's a career 36% 3 pt shooter and really good defender. A poor man's Jrue Holidays. He will be excellent fit next to Dlo if Dlo is extended and stays with Lakers.

[DanishLakerFan]

i think we should decline beasley's TO in the summer and sign Josh Richardson with the money. Richardson struggling with Pelicans right now. But he's a career 36% 3 pt shooter and really good defender. A poor man's Jrue Holidays. He will be excellent fit next to Dlo if Dlo is extended and stays with Lakers.

I think there are a lot of different ways to go in the offseason. To me the easy ones are to extend DLo, keep Bamba and Vanderbilt and resign Reaves with early bird rights.

That would give us:
D'Lo - Reaves - Lebron - Vanderbilt - Davis
____ - Christie - _____ - ____ - Bamba

After that it's tougher. They have options on Rui and Beasley, but they could be expensive. Dont have bird rights on Schroeder, Troy Brown Jr. or Gabriel. Also taxMLE as well as a FRP likely just outside the lottery.

To me the move is to either bring everyone back, draft well and then put future draft picks in play in a trade during the season.

OR perhaps trade for someone like OG Anunoby or other high-end 3s/D wing in the summer.
Beasley+'23 FRP+future protected pick could be enough for OG. Then use taxMLE to retain Schroeder and Troy Brown jr.

Imagine that team:
D'Lo - Reaves - Lebron - OG - Davis
Schroeder - Christie - Troy - Vanderbilt - Bamba

[Pointgod]

for those that are interested:

Lakers traded Kuzma, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Montrezl Harrell, Juan Toscano-Anderson, Damian Jones, 2021 FRP (Isiah Jackson), a second round pick, and another first-round pick in the 2027 draft ..... for D'Angelo Russell, Malik Beasley, Jarred Vanderbilt and a second-round pick

Horrible asset management.

[zuju]

for those that are interested:

Lakers traded Kuzma, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Montrezl Harrell, Juan Toscano-Anderson, Damian Jones, 2021 FRP (Isiah Jackson), a second round pick, and another first-round pick in the 2027 draft ..... for D'Angelo Russell, Malik Beasley, Jarred Vanderbilt and a second-round pick

Horrible asset management.

Simply saying it horrible asset management is not very fair to Pelinka and co. imo

Just look at the outcome, you will find that Kuzma is a really good player and played excellent at the Wizards. KCP is a solid 3 & D SG and both FRPs are valuable with Isiah Jackson already being pretty good. Other players are simply not very valuable including Harrell.

What the lakers got back was Dlo, Beasley and Vendo which seems to be pretty low in value as compared to what we gave away.

When you look back to the time we traded Kuzma and the season before. You will find that the narrative here was Kuzma is a legit wing defender who is streaky at 3 pt shooting. Many hoped Kuz to be the thrid star or scoring option after James and AD. Yet, when the opportunity came, he failed to lead the team to victory (Schrolder also). Many fans voice out to trade him for a third star and we got Westbrook instead of Derozan, which was believed to be a strongly recommended by James and AD. If Kuz is still with us, he'd most likely remains to be the player he was when he left behind James and AD. Some knew he will explode when he got the opportunity. But at that point when we trade him, he was regarded as a very good role player. Lets not pretend we traded a highly regarded star for Westbrook.

Dlo fits well with James and AD. Vendo is a beast on defense and improving on offense. They are still young. Beasley is on par with KCP value wise. If we can keep the core pieces together after James retire or leave the team. The Lakers can still be a good team, not enough to contend but a legit playoff team. That 27 FRP would not be a high pick.

I am not defending for Pelinka and the whole front office. They can definitely do better in the process.

[loveshaq786]

If you want to say the players are pretty much equal, I might agree.

but to blow up a team that just want to championship, is one of the stupidest decisions I've ever seen in basketball.

I am appreciative that we salvaged some value back, and can actually make a run with a deeper roster now. but what polinka has done prior to that has been horrendous, and our ownership sucks.

why couldn't they just let Jerry West and magic Johnson run it, and sit back and be happy and collect??

[Pointgod]

for those that are interested:

Lakers traded Kuzma, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Montrezl Harrell, Juan Toscano-Anderson, Damian Jones, 2021 FRP (Isiah Jackson), a second round pick, and another first-round pick in the 2027 draft ..... for D'Angelo Russell, Malik Beasley, Jarred Vanderbilt and a second-round pick

Horrible asset management.

Simply saying it horrible asset management is not very fair to Pelinka and co. imo

Just look at the outcome, you will find that Kuzma is a really good player and played excellent at the Wizards. KCP is a solid 3 & D SG and both FRPs are valuable with Isiah Jackson already being pretty good. Other players are simply not very valuable including Harrell.

What the lakers got back was Dlo, Beasley and Vendo which seems to be pretty low in value as compared to what we gave away.

When you look back to the time we traded Kuzma and the season before. You will find that the narrative here was Kuzma is a legit wing defender who is streaky at 3 pt shooting. Many hoped Kuz to be the thrid star or scoring option after James and AD. Yet, when the opportunity came, he failed to lead the team to victory (Schrolder also). Many fans voice out to trade him for a third star and we got Westbrook instead of Derozan, which was believed to be a strongly recommended by James and AD. If Kuz is still with us, he'd most likely remains to be the player he was when he left behind James and AD. Some knew he will explode when he got the opportunity. But at that point when we trade him, he was regarded as a very good role player. Lets not pretend we traded a highly regarded star for Westbrook.

Dlo fits well with James and AD. Vendo is a beast on defense and improving on offense. They are still young. Beasley is on par with KCP value wise. If we can keep the core pieces together after James retire or leave the team. The Lakers can still be a good team, not enough to contend but a legit playoff team. That 27 FRP would not be a high pick.

I am not defending for Pelinka and the whole front office. They can definitely do better in the process.

If you look at everything we gave up in totality, we should have gotten an allstar, even lower tier one in return. Frankly Kuzma had only completed his 4th season when we traded him and we should have at least experimented with him starting before shipping him off. KCP fit this team perfecting as the defensive off guard that can hit the 3. He’s still valued in the league. Harrell sucks now but he was a former 6th man of the year and still had some value. Remember Westbrook’s value was shot and the Wizards had traded John Wall who’s career was done and a 1st for him. If I was to tell you today we’d give up a 20 point per game scorer, defensive guard and former 6th man plus 2 picks, you’d expect a lot more return than Russell, Vanderbilt and Beasley. That 2021 pick could have given us a chance to draft Quintin Grimes, Bones Hyland, Cam Thomas all guards that fill a hole.

And the mismanagement didn’t start there. They traded Danny Green and the pick that we could have used to draft Desmond Bane for Scroeder, let go of Alex Caruso and basically dismantled the core of a championship team to star hunt. We were a team that had depleted our young players for AD (still worth it) and we should have been restocking instead of just trading more picks and letting go of awesome finds like Caruso. Our scouting department is actually really strong so we should be doubling down on drafting and amassing picks.

And don’t get me wrong I like Russell, Beasley and Vanderbilt. We should extend Vanderbilt because a team can always use his hustle and energy. Russell slots into the 3rd option despite his defensive limitations because he can shoot and play-make. Rui move was excellent, taking a chance in Bamba was also good. But the reality, giving up as much as we did in the totality of the Westbrook trade should have yielded better results than 3 good players that might not even help us make the play in.

[cheese318]

for those that are interested:

Lakers traded Kuzma, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Montrezl Harrell, Juan Toscano-Anderson, Damian Jones, 2021 FRP (Isiah Jackson), a second round pick, and another first-round pick in the 2027 draft ..... for D'Angelo Russell, Malik Beasley, Jarred Vanderbilt and a second-round pick

If we didn’t have to wait 18 months for the trade to be finished it would be a solid return lol

[cheese318]

Horrible asset management.

Simply saying it horrible asset management is not very fair to Pelinka and co. imo

Just look at the outcome, you will find that Kuzma is a really good player and played excellent at the Wizards. KCP is a solid 3 & D SG and both FRPs are valuable with Isiah Jackson already being pretty good. Other players are simply not very valuable including Harrell.

What the lakers got back was Dlo, Beasley and Vendo which seems to be pretty low in value as compared to what we gave away.

When you look back to the time we traded Kuzma and the season before. You will find that the narrative here was Kuzma is a legit wing defender who is streaky at 3 pt shooting. Many hoped Kuz to be the thrid star or scoring option after James and AD. Yet, when the opportunity came, he failed to lead the team to victory (Schrolder also). Many fans voice out to trade him for a third star and we got Westbrook instead of Derozan, which was believed to be a strongly recommended by James and AD. If Kuz is still with us, he'd most likely remains to be the player he was when he left behind James and AD. Some knew he will explode when he got the opportunity. But at that point when we trade him, he was regarded as a very good role player. Lets not pretend we traded a highly regarded star for Westbrook.

Dlo fits well with James and AD. Vendo is a beast on defense and improving on offense. They are still young. Beasley is on par with KCP value wise. If we can keep the core pieces together after James retire or leave the team. The Lakers can still be a good team, not enough to contend but a legit playoff team. That 27 FRP would not be a high pick.

I am not defending for Pelinka and the whole front office. They can definitely do better in the process.

If you look at everything we gave up in totality, we should have gotten an allstar, even lower tier one in return. Frankly Kuzma had only completed his 4th season when we traded him and we should have at least experimented with him starting before shipping him off. KCP fit this team perfecting as the defensive off guard that can hit the 3. He’s still valued in the league. Harrell sucks now but he was a former 6th man of the year and still had some value. Remember Westbrook’s value was shot and the Wizards had traded John Wall who’s career was done and a 1st for him. If I was to tell you today we’d give up a 20 point per game scorer, defensive guard and former 6th man plus 2 picks, you’d expect a lot more return than Russell, Vanderbilt and Beasley. That 2021 pick could have given us a chance to draft Quintin Grimes, Bones Hyland, Cam Thomas all guards that fill a hole.

And the mismanagement didn’t start there. They traded Danny Green and the pick that we could have used to draft Desmond Bane for Scroeder, let go of Alex Caruso and basically dismantled the core of a championship team to star hunt. We were a team that had depleted our young players for AD (still worth it) and we should have been restocking instead of just trading more picks and letting go of awesome finds like Caruso. Our scouting department is actually really strong so we should be doubling down on drafting and amassing picks.

And don’t get me wrong I like Russell, Beasley and Vanderbilt. We should extend Vanderbilt because a team can always use his hustle and energy. Russell slots into the 3rd option despite his defensive limitations because he can shoot and play-make. Rui move was excellent, taking a chance in Bamba was also good. But the reality, giving up as much as we did in the totality of the Westbrook trade should have yielded better results than 3 good players that might not even help us make the play in.

Is was more the timing of the trade. If they could have pulled this off 1-2 months ago and they waited then Pelinka gets an F in my book because there is a probability they don’t make the playoffs or the play in at this point. Now they have to win and win a lot just to put themselves in a coin flip. They should be shooting for #7/#8 seed so they have two shots at the playoffs. I just don’t think they have enough time to get in the mix with the #6 seed

[zuju]

Horrible asset management.

Simply saying it horrible asset management is not very fair to Pelinka and co. imo

Just look at the outcome, you will find that Kuzma is a really good player and played excellent at the Wizards. KCP is a solid 3 & D SG and both FRPs are valuable with Isiah Jackson already being pretty good. Other players are simply not very valuable including Harrell.

What the lakers got back was Dlo, Beasley and Vendo which seems to be pretty low in value as compared to what we gave away.

When you look back to the time we traded Kuzma and the season before. You will find that the narrative here was Kuzma is a legit wing defender who is streaky at 3 pt shooting. Many hoped Kuz to be the thrid star or scoring option after James and AD. Yet, when the opportunity came, he failed to lead the team to victory (Schrolder also). Many fans voice out to trade him for a third star and we got Westbrook instead of Derozan, which was believed to be a strongly recommended by James and AD. If Kuz is still with us, he'd most likely remains to be the player he was when he left behind James and AD. Some knew he will explode when he got the opportunity. But at that point when we trade him, he was regarded as a very good role player. Lets not pretend we traded a highly regarded star for Westbrook.

Dlo fits well with James and AD. Vendo is a beast on defense and improving on offense. They are still young. Beasley is on par with KCP value wise. If we can keep the core pieces together after James retire or leave the team. The Lakers can still be a good team, not enough to contend but a legit playoff team. That 27 FRP would not be a high pick.

I am not defending for Pelinka and the whole front office. They can definitely do better in the process.

If you look at everything we gave up in totality, we should have gotten an allstar, even lower tier one in return. Frankly Kuzma had only completed his 4th season when we traded him and we should have at least experimented with him starting before shipping him off. KCP fit this team perfecting as the defensive off guard that can hit the 3. He’s still valued in the league. Harrell sucks now but he was a former 6th man of the year and still had some value. Remember Westbrook’s value was shot and the Wizards had traded John Wall who’s career was done and a 1st for him. If I was to tell you today we’d give up a 20 point per game scorer, defensive guard and former 6th man plus 2 picks, you’d expect a lot more return than Russell, Vanderbilt and Beasley. That 2021 pick could have given us a chance to draft Quintin Grimes, Bones Hyland, Cam Thomas all guards that fill a hole.

And the mismanagement didn’t start there. They traded Danny Green and the pick that we could have used to draft Desmond Bane for Scroeder, let go of Alex Caruso and basically dismantled the core of a championship team to star hunt. We were a team that had depleted our young players for AD (still worth it) and we should have been restocking instead of just trading more picks and letting go of awesome finds like Caruso. Our scouting department is actually really strong so we should be doubling down on drafting and amassing picks.

And don’t get me wrong I like Russell, Beasley and Vanderbilt. We should extend Vanderbilt because a team can always use his hustle and energy. Russell slots into the 3rd option despite his defensive limitations because he can shoot and play-make. Rui move was excellent, taking a chance in Bamba was also good. But the reality, giving up as much as we did in the totality of the Westbrook trade should have yielded better results than 3 good players that might not even help us make the play in.

With James and AD, Kuz would not have the ball anyway. He would never be that 20 point scorer he is now. Look at Cam Thomas and Mikal Bridges, they can be 40 pt scorer when all all star level players are gone. If they still play with Kyrie or Booker, will that happen? In 2020-2021 season, AD and James had a stretch of games when both were injured. Kuz and Schrolder couldn't capitalize the opportunity. Kuz was a streaky 3-pt shooter who cannot initiate offense and failed to score on his own. But he actually had some 20 point games when AD / James out. Remember back then AD was still a PF and refuse to regularly play C. Fans asked to trade him after that miserable season. Lakers and its fans are very impatient to youngings. I agree we could have better return with that package. But Westbrook was what AD and James chose which is not the right thing to be done to begin with.

I do agree that the front office made numerous mistakes throughout the years. Letting Randle walk for nothing. Let go of Brook Lopez and Caruso. Breaking the championship core etc.

At least we are now a better team again. Lets look forward to the coming 23 games. Lakershow