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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#181 » by contract » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:27 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:If they finally end up deciding it’s time to part ways they’ll 100% give Dame his choice of team. He grew up a Heat fan and his contract is possibly considered a bad contract one day. We could get something done with Herro picks Jovic etc

Why? It's not like Lillard won them anything or he's been taking discounts to help the team.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#182 » by contract » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:31 am

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I was wondering about that. Even if the Cavs don't think he's that great anymore it's still a potential upgrade for a team they may end up playing in the postseason. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they only release him on the condition that he heads out west.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#183 » by HIF » Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:55 pm

Timantha wrote:Aside from Butler, there hasn't been a star who has forced themselves to Miami. Miami is always on their list, but it's not their only preferred destination. It's probably gonna be the same again with Dame if he ever asked out.. We'll be on the list, but there's also gonna be a team in there who will destroy us in a bidding war

I keep repeating this, but I think only Lebron is the realistic target that can save the Jimmy Butler timeline. He's 38-39 years old with an expiring contract, who can handpick his next destination if he requests a trade. Don't think teams are willing to go far for an old Bron. Pat can finally go all in and offer an expiring Lowry - Caleb - Jovic - 2023 first round player we draft - picks/swaps package. If he wants to save the picks, then he can offer Herro


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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#184 » by Vertical Limit » Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:44 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:If they finally end up deciding it’s time to part ways they’ll 100% give Dame his choice of team. He grew up a Heat fan and his contract is possibly considered a bad contract one day. We could get something done with Herro picks Jovic etc

Why? It's not like Lillard won them anything or he's been taking discounts to help the team.

Lol and the team isnt going to take discounts for him either.

Dame is 32 years old, in his prime. And he doesnt have many miles on his legs. He is considered one of the untouchables in the league, he is in that category with Steph, Nikola, booker, tatum and giannis. The cost to trade for him is far more expensive than you all can imagine.

As far as assets goes, there is about 20 teams in the NBA and it may be closer to 25, that are in a far better position to strike a deal with Portland for Lilliard. that’s not an exaggeration, that is facts.

Now, portland will listen if both herro and bam are offered. And 3 unprotected first round picks. They may even listen if you switch butler with bam, even though butler has a lot of mileage and is getting up in age.

To trade for Damian Lilliard is like trading for a franchise quarterback. Like the dolphins trying to strike a deal with the Chargers for Herbert or philadelphia for Hurts. Theyre going to empty our reserves before they move on with him.

Also Lilliard is the only reason why portland fans go to the games.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#185 » by Flash4thewin » Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:47 pm

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Timantha wrote:Aside from Butler, there hasn't been a star who has forced themselves to Miami. Miami is always on their list, but it's not their only preferred destination. It's probably gonna be the same again with Dame if he ever asked out.. We'll be on the list, but there's also gonna be a team in there who will destroy us in a bidding war

I keep repeating this, but I think only Lebron is the realistic target that can save the Jimmy Butler timeline. He's 38-39 years old with an expiring contract, who can handpick his next destination if he requests a trade. Don't think teams are willing to go far for an old Bron. Pat can finally go all in and offer an expiring Lowry - Caleb - Jovic - 2023 first round player we draft - picks/swaps package. If he wants to save the picks, then he can offer Herro

Ha. Another LeBron fleecing? You guys are too much. That's a no from me, dawg. Lebron plays like Meyers Leonard now.

That's an overpay.


Yeah I must admit Lebron and his current averages of 30/8/7 really reminds me of Meyers Leonard as well...


Yeah if Lebron reminds him of Meyers Leonard then Butler must remind him of Danny Granger/ Mc Wuberts and now we have come full circle,we are just missing a word cup :lol:
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#186 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:12 pm

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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#188 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:15 pm

Starting role must have been promised to Love. Really excited to see him work with Bam and drain the Tucker corner 3’s.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#189 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:18 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:If they finally end up deciding it’s time to part ways they’ll 100% give Dame his choice of team. He grew up a Heat fan and his contract is possibly considered a bad contract one day. We could get something done with Herro picks Jovic etc

Why? It's not like Lillard won them anything or he's been taking discounts to help the team.


He’s their franchise goat and has been as loyal as it gets and a great face of the franchise. I promise you he will get his choice if they decide to part ways. Hell, KD got his choice for literally nothing with the Nets
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Post#190 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:23 pm

Well id say love is the best 4 Bams ever got to play with but defensively I’m curious to see how it all works out. I think Habe has to start now for good or you get a 3 and D PG like Oat Bev. You can’t have 3 starters in Lowry Herro and Love that just flat out can’t defend. Idc how good Bam and Jimmy are on that end, that’s a lot to cover up for
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Post#191 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:26 pm

I’ve been seeing alot encouraging numbers for love when he’s actually given playing time and a defined role. Just don’t know how much he can play, 24-26 minutes consistently? He’s old and injury prone, I’d like to keep him as fresh as possible
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Post#192 » by marson » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:27 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Well id say love is the best 4 Bams ever got to play with but defensively I’m curious to see how it all works out. I think Habe has to start now for good or you get a 3 and D PG like Oat Bev. You can’t have 3 starters in Lowry Herro and Love that just flat out can’t defend. Idc how good Bam and Jimmy are on that end, that’s a lot to cover up for


We can hide him against slow-footed centers and Bam will have the agency now to relax a little bit on banging these big centers.

We can't do that with Caleb freaking Martin LMAO.
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Post#193 » by contract » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:28 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Starting role must have been promised to Love. Really excited to see him work with Bam and drain the Tucker corner 3’s.

I think it's a bad idea to promise a starting job to anyone. Caleb has been busting his ass, and watching him get screwed may hurt player morale. Make it clear that we want more than we're getting from that spot and give Love the opportunity to win the job, but don't just hand it to him.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#194 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:29 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:If they finally end up deciding it’s time to part ways they’ll 100% give Dame his choice of team. He grew up a Heat fan and his contract is possibly considered a bad contract one day. We could get something done with Herro picks Jovic etc

Why? It's not like Lillard won them anything or he's been taking discounts to help the team.

Lol and the team isnt going to take discounts for him either.

Dame is 32 years old, in his prime. And he doesnt have many miles on his legs. He is considered one of the untouchables in the league, he is in that category with Steph, Nikola, booker, tatum and giannis. The cost to trade for him is far more expensive than you all can imagine.

As far as assets goes, there is about 20 teams in the NBA and it may be closer to 25, that are in a far better position to strike a deal with Portland for Lilliard. that’s not an exaggeration, that is facts.

Now, portland will listen if both herro and bam are offered. And 3 unprotected first round picks. They may even listen if you switch butler with bam, even though butler has a lot of mileage and is getting up in age.

To trade for Damian Lilliard is like trading for a franchise quarterback. Like the dolphins trying to strike a deal with the Chargers for Herbert or philadelphia for Hurts. Theyre going to empty our reserves before they move on with him.

Also Lilliard is the only reason why portland fans go to the games.


So Nets gave KD his preferred choice of one team but if Lillard really wanted that the Blazers wouldn’t do that lol? It’s not even close in terms of what those guys meant to their franchises. Lillard will get his choice. Also, 32 isn’t exactly young lol he’s basically about to be out of what’s considered his prime and is set to make $60M a year at 35-36. Depending on health and how he ages that could be a horrible contract
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#195 » by marson » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:30 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Starting role must have been promised to Love. Really excited to see him work with Bam and drain the Tucker corner 3’s.

I think it's a bad idea to promise a starting job to anyone. Caleb has been busting his ass, and watching him get screwed may hurt player morale. Make it clear that we want more than we're getting from that spot and give Love the opportunity to win the job, but don't just hand it to him.


Kudos to him for busting his ass but we ain't going anywhere with a 6 ft 5 guard in the PF position. Gonna need the size.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#196 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:30 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Well id say love is the best 4 Bams ever got to play with but defensively I’m curious to see how it all works out. I think Habe has to start now for good or you get a 3 and D PG like Oat Bev. You can’t have 3 starters in Lowry Herro and Love that just flat out can’t defend. Idc how good Bam and Jimmy are on that end, that’s a lot to cover up for


We can hide him against slow-footed centers and Bam will have the agency now to relax a little bit on banging these big centers.

We can't do that with Caleb freaking Martin LMAO.


Yea that’ll be nice, Caleb was needed to guard the perimeter guys we didn’t want to stick Lowry and Herro on so I’m curious to see what the change is. Maybe we just start in zone with Bam at the top of the perimeter now
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#197 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:32 pm

It would’ve been a horrible look for the Cavs to try and dictate who Love could and couldn’t sign with. Get our **** together and the Cavs will be our first round matchup
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#198 » by contract » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:33 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:If they finally end up deciding it’s time to part ways they’ll 100% give Dame his choice of team. He grew up a Heat fan and his contract is possibly considered a bad contract one day. We could get something done with Herro picks Jovic etc

Why? It's not like Lillard won them anything or he's been taking discounts to help the team.


He’s their franchise goat and has been as loyal as it gets and a great face of the franchise. I promise you he will get his choice if they decide to part ways. Hell, KD got his choice for literally nothing with the Nets

Drexler is their franchise GOAT. But aside from that I'm confused by the whole "loyalty" narrative. Dame has done nothing but sign the largest deal available to him. That's not loyalty, that's business.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#199 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:43 pm

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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#200 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:47 pm

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contract wrote:Why? It's not like Lillard won them anything or he's been taking discounts to help the team.


He’s their franchise goat and has been as loyal as it gets and a great face of the franchise. I promise you he will get his choice if they decide to part ways. Hell, KD got his choice for literally nothing with the Nets

Drexler is their franchise GOAT. But aside from that I'm confused by the whole "loyalty" narrative. Dame has done nothing but sign the largest deal available to him. That's not loyalty, that's business.


You’re about to find out if they mutually decide to part ways lol. Dame will get his choice, whether it’s one team only or a list of 3 or something. I guarantee it. I mean Nets flat out refused to work with anyone but the Suns for KD, why would they do that for him?
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