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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#21 » by BoyzNTheHood » Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:53 pm

JShuttlesworth wrote:Was anyone high on Jordan Hawkins in the last thread? 6'5 SG playing out of UConn.

I've been watching some tape on him, and I've got to say I kind of like his game. He's projected well below our range right now




I like the way he plays, but I read somewhere that he didn’t perform against better competition or defenders. I’m unsure if it’s true, but will dive deeper into his numbers once I get home.
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Re: Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#22 » by mademan » Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:20 pm

I like Dick
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#23 » by BoyzNTheHood » Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:20 pm

mademan wrote:I like Dick

Don’t we all?
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#24 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:19 pm

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Post#25 » by Ell Curry » Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:29 pm

I've watched some more Michigan and I fear Jett Howard might suffer from Adam Morrison disease where he just doesn't get enough separation to be a quality NBA scorer, though his jumper is better. But if you're a C- on defence (let's assume he improves) and a good but not top 10 shooter in the league and you don't get steals, blocks or rebounds, you're just a bench scorer and a late 1st/high 2nd type pick to me.

Vecenie has Bufkin (Michigan's 2 guard) who is the age of a frosh - but a sophomore - going 28th, and I do think he has everything you need to be a 7/10 SG in all aspects. Not super exciting, but a very good bench player. Logical type player for us to target as a Trent backup by his 2nd or 3rd season if we end up with a high 2nd rounder from an OG or Boucher trade this summer.
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Post#26 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:44 pm

Ell Curry wrote:I've watched some more Michigan and I fear Jett Howard might suffer from Adam Morrison disease where he just doesn't get enough separation to be a quality NBA scorer, though his jumper is better. But if you're a C- on defence (let's assume he improves) and a good but not top 10 shooter in the league and you don't get steals, blocks or rebounds, you're just a bench scorer and a late 1st/high 2nd type pick to me.

Vecenie has Bufkin (Michigan's 2 guard) who is the age of a frosh - but a sophomore - going 28th, and I do think he has everything you need to be a 7/10 SG in all aspects. Not super exciting, but a very good bench player. Logical type player for us to target as a Trent backup by his 2nd or 3rd season if we end up with a high 2nd rounder from an OG or Boucher trade this summer.


I remember when people on this board were claiming Morrison is the next Larry Bird :lol:
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Ell Curry wrote:I've watched some more Michigan and I fear Jett Howard might suffer from Adam Morrison disease where he just doesn't get enough separation to be a quality NBA scorer, though his jumper is better. But if you're a C- on defence (let's assume he improves) and a good but not top 10 shooter in the league and you don't get steals, blocks or rebounds, you're just a bench scorer and a late 1st/high 2nd type pick to me.

Vecenie has Bufkin (Michigan's 2 guard) who is the age of a frosh - but a sophomore - going 28th, and I do think he has everything you need to be a 7/10 SG in all aspects. Not super exciting, but a very good bench player. Logical type player for us to target as a Trent backup by his 2nd or 3rd season if we end up with a high 2nd rounder from an OG or Boucher trade this summer.


I remember when people on this board were claiming Morrison is the next Larry Bird :lol:


Whoa! I thought maybe Jalen Rose. Morrison and JJ Redick had that scoring race battle!

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2006.html

This and the Kenyon Martin draft were bad. I guess had late gems with Rondo and Lowry.
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Post#28 » by DreamTeam09 » Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:55 pm

How come no love for GG Jackson, he's basically a HS SR who's the best player on a NCAA D1 team, he's so young, he'll get better with proper grooming. I like the fact that he could play some SG for us while still being a big guard
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Post#29 » by Kevin Willis » Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:05 am

DreamTeam09 wrote:How come no love for GG Jackson, he's basically a HS SR who's the best player on a NCAA D1 team, he's so young, he'll get better with proper grooming. I like the fact that he could play some SG for us while still being a big guard


There is love for him. There was a period he was the next hot thing on this board. Really talented. Fits the mold. Haven't heard too much about him since he criticized his coach, maybe he'll fall to us.
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Post#30 » by Mark_83 » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:47 am

Currently picking 9th. In position for a guy like Cason Wallace, Anthony Black, Keyontae George and, or if he keeps being underrated, Jarace Walker.

1) HOU - Wemb
2) SA - Scoot
3) DET - Miller
4) CHA - Whitmore
5) ORL - Amen
6) IND - Walker
7) ORL - Ausur
8) NO - Black
9) TOR - Wallace / George
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Post#31 » by Mark_83 » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:48 am

DreamTeam09 wrote:How come no love for GG Jackson, he's basically a HS SR who's the best player on a NCAA D1 team, he's so young, he'll get better with proper grooming. I like the fact that he could play some SG for us while still being a big guard

Talented, but no defense and apparently bad attitude. Probably a no draft for Masai. Kind of reminds me of Amare.
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Post#32 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:52 am

Mark_83 wrote:Currently picking 9th. In position for a guy like Cason Wallace, Anthony Black, Keyontae George and, or if he keeps being underrated, Jarace Walker.

1) HOU - Wemb
2) SA - Scoot
3) DET - Miller
4) CHA - Whitmore
5) ORL - Amen
6) IND - Walker
7) ORL - Ausur
8) NO - Black
9) TOR - Wallace / George
Barring injuries we'll be picking lower than 9th. Probably somewhere around 12-15.
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Post#33 » by Jstock12 » Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:17 am

mademan wrote:I like Dick

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Post#34 » by Yallbecrazy » Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:52 am

Kevin Willis wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:How come no love for GG Jackson, he's basically a HS SR who's the best player on a NCAA D1 team, he's so young, he'll get better with proper grooming. I like the fact that he could play some SG for us while still being a big guard


There is love for him. There was a period he was the next hot thing on this board. Really talented. Fits the mold. Haven't heard too much about him since he criticized his coach, maybe he'll fall to us.


His team is horrible and he can't shoot or pass.
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Post#35 » by ATLTimekeeper » Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:44 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:
Kevin Willis wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:How come no love for GG Jackson, he's basically a HS SR who's the best player on a NCAA D1 team, he's so young, he'll get better with proper grooming. I like the fact that he could play some SG for us while still being a big guard


There is love for him. There was a period he was the next hot thing on this board. Really talented. Fits the mold. Haven't heard too much about him since he criticized his coach, maybe he'll fall to us.


His team is horrible and he can't shoot or pass.


He's got a 0 BPM. He'll be drafted either in the 2nd round or slide right out if he declares. That'd be an outlier of all outliers if he made it as even an NBA rotation player.
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Post#36 » by JShuttlesworth » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:03 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:How come no love for GG Jackson, he's basically a HS SR who's the best player on a NCAA D1 team, he's so young, he'll get better with proper grooming. I like the fact that he could play some SG for us while still being a big guard


I think a lot of us have had good things to say about GG

If we draft GG, as a PF/C type of player (not a shooter), he'd be fighting for minutes with Pascal / Barnes / Achiuwa / Poeltl / Boucher / Koloko. I don't think he'd crack our rotation for the foreseeable future. I would be surprised if we picked him to be honest, I dont think we have the best environment (as it currently stands) to properly develop him

I'd prefer we go another route, and get a player who can shoot the basketball and can help us at guard or wing
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Post#37 » by Kevin Willis » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:42 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:
Kevin Willis wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:How come no love for GG Jackson, he's basically a HS SR who's the best player on a NCAA D1 team, he's so young, he'll get better with proper grooming. I like the fact that he could play some SG for us while still being a big guard


There is love for him. There was a period he was the next hot thing on this board. Really talented. Fits the mold. Haven't heard too much about him since he criticized his coach, maybe he'll fall to us.


His team is horrible and he can't shoot or pass.


This is true. Plus he's a bit redundant for this team because we need people who can pass and shoot. We have a lot like him. Still he's pretty young and the potential is there. Some team in the lottery will go for his youth / potential, they always do.
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Post#38 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:03 pm

This team needs a shooter more than ever. They got their big and Poeltl will stay for the next 3-4 years. They are set there. Unless they get #1, I don't see us going for a big here.

If we are out of the lottery and Cason and Rupert are there, I'd probably target them. I think they would blossom on the NBA court over time.
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Post#39 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:08 pm

Rupert
That’s where his future is in the NBA: As soon as he gets stronger and more capable of holding up at the point of attack physically, Rupert is going to be a true defensive difference-maker. He’s already that in the NBL, earning a starting role on the No. 2 team in the league because of his ability to shut down opponents and play solid team defense. He hasn’t been handed anything this season, like past Next Stars in the NBL; he’s reached out and grabbed it, earning a critical role in highly competitive playoff atmospheres. On top of that, Rupert’s background checks have come back pristine. He’s noted in Australia as an exceptionally hard worker, he’s all about the team as opposed to his own ambitions, and he has a remarkably professional mindset for a player who doesn’t turn 19 until May. My bet is that a team decides to place a calculated bet on him in the top 20.
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Post#40 » by Psubs » Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:18 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Rupert
That’s where his future is in the NBA: As soon as he gets stronger and more capable of holding up at the point of attack physically, Rupert is going to be a true defensive difference-maker. He’s already that in the NBL, earning a starting role on the No. 2 team in the league because of his ability to shut down opponents and play solid team defense. He hasn’t been handed anything this season, like past Next Stars in the NBL; he’s reached out and grabbed it, earning a critical role in highly competitive playoff atmospheres. On top of that, Rupert’s background checks have come back pristine. He’s noted in Australia as an exceptionally hard worker, he’s all about the team as opposed to his own ambitions, and he has a remarkably professional mindset for a player who doesn’t turn 19 until May. My bet is that a team decides to place a calculated bet on him in the top 20.


Maybe he's like Ronnie Brewer with combo guard skills.
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