dedmond or noel on the buyout

[Mik317]

Gobert's issues in the playoffs had more to do with Utah's point of attack defenders being hot ass than him IMO. So he would often be stuck with either going out to contest knowing he'd get beat off the dribble with no help at the rim or staying home as his teams got destroyed on pull ups.

Biid has had the same issues in the past and this season too... the difference being in the past he had Ben to curtail alot of that and he also can hang on the perimeter (less so now) unlike Gobert.

We struggle against the celtics because they have multiple guys who can create their own shot and they are often tall and athletic...and they have shooters on deck (and those shooters seem to get a stat boost against us lol). Ben couldn't stop/slow Tatum and even if he could we generally never had another guy to check Brown...they are a really really great team build wise and generally only get beat with teams that can also get hot in bunches and have multiple long defenders to hang with the J's....which was Golden State last finals as then you don't have to over help on their drives and it makes their lack of playmaking stand out more leading to easy buckets off turnovers. We don't have that...and never had lol.

[youngcrev]

Gobert's issues in the playoffs had more to do with Utah's point of attack defenders being hot ass than him IMO. So he would often be stuck with either going out to contest knowing he'd get beat off the dribble with no help at the rim or staying home as his teams got destroyed on pull ups.

Biid has had the same issues in the past and this season too... the difference being in the past he had Ben to curtail alot of that and he also can hang on the perimeter (less so now) unlike Gobert.

We struggle against the celtics because they have multiple guys who can create their own shot and they are often tall and athletic...and they have shooters on deck (and those shooters seem to get a stat boost against us lol). Ben couldn't stop/slow Tatum and even if he could we generally never had another guy to check Brown...they are a really really great team build wise and generally only get beat with teams that can also get hot in bunches and have multiple long defenders to hang with the J's....which was Golden State last finals as then you don't have to over help on their drives and it makes their lack of playmaking stand out more leading to easy buckets off turnovers. We don't have that...and never had lol.

I don't think it's so much that Gobert is terrible in space, but rather when you force him to do so, it takes him away from what he's actually elite at in guarding the basket.

Take Embiid away from the basket and what do you have? Genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist.

[Lockdown504090]

Gobert's issues in the playoffs had more to do with Utah's point of attack defenders being hot ass than him IMO. So he would often be stuck with either going out to contest knowing he'd get beat off the dribble with no help at the rim or staying home as his teams got destroyed on pull ups.

Biid has had the same issues in the past and this season too... the difference being in the past he had Ben to curtail alot of that and he also can hang on the perimeter (less so now) unlike Gobert.

We struggle against the celtics because they have multiple guys who can create their own shot and they are often tall and athletic...and they have shooters on deck (and those shooters seem to get a stat boost against us lol). Ben couldn't stop/slow Tatum and even if he could we generally never had another guy to check Brown...they are a really really great team build wise and generally only get beat with teams that can also get hot in bunches and have multiple long defenders to hang with the J's....which was Golden State last finals as then you don't have to over help on their drives and it makes their lack of playmaking stand out more leading to easy buckets off turnovers. We don't have that...and never had lol.

I don't think it's so much that Gobert is terrible in space, but rather when you force him to do so, it takes him away from what he's actually elite at in guarding the basket.

Take Embiid away from the basket and what do you have? Genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist.

exactly, its not as much of an issue, I just point to horford, because no matter how you slice it, nobody else in the nba even has a prayer at limiting what Joel likes to do on both ends of the floor like he does. Anyone who can somewhat guard embiid(not really) but isnt really threatening enough on the closeout. like lopez can shoot, but if they closeout on him, hes not gonna be a playmaker that busts the game open for milwauke. or like say mitchell robinson did a great job on joel, it wouldnt kill them because robinson cant pull him away from the bucket. Most teams can frig up gobert because typically most teams have 3-4 guys on the floor who can defend rudy. theres not even 3 guys who can guard joel.

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What's Morey's obsession with washed up bigs?

[Lou_23]

He was good last year after a bad season. Who knows, maybe he can be a good player next to Harden.

I prefer him than Dedmon or Harrell

[Negrodamus]

Love prob would want playing time assurances. Not sure what we promised Tucker but I wouldn’t honor it. I’d give Love more minutes than him.

[ProcessDoctor]

I think we should guarantee him 20 mpg here. Screw all the other backup bigs we have.

[76ciology]

Most efficient transition scorers (min 100/poss)

1. Vassell: 1.49 ppp—104 poss
2. Murphy III: 1.414—160
3. Maxey: 1.41—139
4. Brunson: 1.40—159
5. Markkanen: 1.39—166
6. MPJ: 1.38—134
7. Franz Wagner: 1.374—151
8. Jerami Grant: 1.372—165
9. Tobias: 1.37—136
10. Embiid: 1.36—112

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[HardenGoat]

I would take him. He has been struggling with an injured thumb. Get his hand healthy and he would br a solid vet addition. I thought he was playing great before the injury bring a screener, passer, occasional 3 shooter. His defense was decent too, I don’t buy he is washed.

[76ciology]

Love will unlock Maxey.

Love can set screens where the big has to respect love and draw the big out, so Maxey can just drive to the paint.

Love will grab boards and do his cross court passes to a maxey who likes to leak out.

[FireMorey]

If Kevin Love is the only guy on the market, whatever. But getting another athletic wing is more of a priority. They need guys who can defend and switch in the playoffs, backup big issues aside. They should wait out the buyout market a bit more rather than blowing their final roster spot on a shell of Kevin Love. And if no one else shakes free, just pivot to Pat Bev or something. At least he gives you intensity/defense/moxie in the playoffs.

[Negrodamus]

I think rebounding is more important than anything. It maximizes possessions with at least one of Harden, Embiid, or Maxey. Our D Reb has been abysmal for a while now.

[FireMorey]

I think defense is their biggest issue with rebounding, not their players. They have quality rebounders on the roster. When they're constantly on skates on defense and need to help, it allows offensive rebounds to open up. If they improve their defense, rebounding will improve by default.

[d-god]

I was at MSG watching Knicks v Cavs in Jan. We were pretty close to the action. Watched Love in particular. He looked old. Didnt have same physicality he use to play with. The lift in his shot wasnt there either. He seemed to miss all his shots in warm up. Small sample size I know but still....

[SixthStreet]

If Love can’t shoot he’s not that useful. If he can he’d be a ridiculous add.

[ProcessDoctor]

Harden(33)/Milton(15)
Melton(24)/Maxey(24)
Tucker(20)/McDaniels(16)/Niang(12)
Harris(28)/Reed(12)/Love(4)/Niang(4)
Embiid(33)/Love(15)

Playoffs just take out Shake and Paul from the rotation.

[blazehound]

Love can have all the minutes from Niang and Harrell. Some from PJ too. Get it done Morey, you worthless bum.

[76ciology]

No Love

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[FireMorey]

Love to the Heat.

[Kobblehead]

No state tax or having to play with Jimmy Butler.

Vast majority of players would take the taxes.