2023 NBA Draft Thread

[Lwcasu]

Scoot Henderson is in the same tier athletically as Morant. I don't need to dial that back because it's the truth. His in and out, hesitation, speed, crossover, and ability to change direction are all elite. That doesn't mean he's Kyrie good, but if you watch film on him it's not a ridiculous comparison.

As for him and Wembanyama I never put them in the same tier. One is the kind of talent that can win multiple championships as your lead player. The other is an exciting scorer that I said I wasn't sure how much winning impact they'd have.

My main argument is that nobody is close to Wemby, I think Scoot is much closer to Thompson twins as prospects than Vic.

Tier 1- VW
Tier 2- nobody
Tier 3- Scoot, Thompson Twins, Miller
Tier 4- Walker, Whitmore etc..


Scoot went 1-5 with 4 points including get ripped on a crossover by Grimes on the last series of play in the game and Grimes coming down and hitting game winner.

Three things. #1 VW is probably overrated. Scoot is at least tier two if not 1. You’re referencing one series. That being said he doesn’t really fit here. Would be interesting if we get #2. Brandon Miller is underrated.

[UNCNYC]

Baylor @ Kansas - ESPN - 4:00 ( Keyonte George VS Gradey Dick, Jalen Wilson )

[SWedd523]

I think some folks are undervaluing what Scoot can do on the NBA level, but there's no way VW is overrated as a prospect.

From a pure prospect perspective (say that 3x fast), VW is on the LeBron/Oden/Zion/Davis level of "this guy is going to be a HOFer"

[Lwcasu]

I think some folks are undervaluing what Scoot can do on the NBA level, but there's no way VW is overrated as a prospect.

From a pure prospect perspective (say that 3x fast), VW is on the LeBron/Oden/Zion/Davis level of "this guy is going to be a HOFer"

Well you’re kind of going to lead into my argument. His sheer size and the way he plays is why I think he’s overrated. I don’t think he has 5 fully healthy years in the NBA. Similar to Zion/Oden/Davis. If scoot is an all star for 5 years there’s an argument he might be the better pick number 1.

[bravor]

He is overrated offensively, that's something which is true. He still takes bad shots/forces actions and get bad turnovers - especially in first half - and he tends to prefers the long jumper instead of the dribble drive but he's still improving at light speed.
Defensively, he is underrated. Especially in the nba. When he will have rejected a few optimists perimeter 3's and blocked a few guys who thought they had passed him, it will become obvious to everyone (except the doubters, but i am talking about rational people).

But his current floor is already crazy. The stats he has this year are legit, we are not talking or trash competition but grow men competition and rules (i mean fiba rules).
How he will develop, that's another story. The goat stuff, lol. He's barely 18. His mindset is to improve and become a better basketball player every year, if he stays focus and avoid being distracted by medias and millions, i really don't fear for his future (and for out NT).

As for Scoot, his size is a real issue. Morant is fun (on the court) but he is still a defensive liability. But from Charlotte's side, picking any of them would help wether the guy is kept or traded, that's beyond obvious. Some teams would give ransom to land any of them.

[Lwcasu]

He is overrated offensively, that's something which is true. He still takes bad shots/forces actions and get bad turnovers - especially in first half - and he tends to prefers the long jumper instead of the dribble drive but he's still improving at light speed.
Defensively, he is underrated. Especially in the nba. When he will have rejected a few optimists perimeter 3's and blocked a few guys who thought they had passed him, it will become obvious to everyone (except the doubters, but i am talking about rational people).

But his current floor is already crazy. The stats he has this year are legit, we are not talking or trash competition but grow men competition and rules (i mean fiba rules).
How he will develop, that's another story. The goat stuff, lol. He's barely 18. His mindset is to improve and become a better basketball player every year, if he stays focus and avoid being distracted by medias and millions, i really don't fear for his future (and for out NT).

As for Scoot, his size is a real issue. Morant is fun (on the court) but he is still a defensive liability. But from Charlotte's side, picking any of them would help wether the guy is kept or traded, that's beyond obvious. Some teams would give ransom to land any of them.

Correct. Charlotte should draft Scoot just on his trade value (or trade the pick to move down a spot or two) you might get something ridiculous in a trade package. Ofc if we get #1 we take VW, but he has flaws unlike a prospect like LeBron or Doncic. That’s why I think he’s overrated.

[bravor]

Doncic never defended to save his life. Talk about an overrated player. Lebron is a whole other story though, at least he plays and has an (had) an impact on both ends.

[JDR720]

Wemb's potential is based on his size/skill combo. But his build is one that has a pretty high failure rate.

[amcoolio]

I think Wemby will eventually play (or try to play) like Kevin Durant

He will pair well with Mark Williams, and as the center at the end of games when we need points

[JMAC3]

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Wemby is going to be elite on defensive end of the floor and still give you 20+ on offense. That is a tier of its own.

Even if Scoot is a good offensive player, he is never going to be elite on that end at the floor at 6-2. More than likely he will be a subpar defender like the other 95% of smaller offensive guards in the league.

I feel like the Scoot love is based on a three-minute highlight tape.. which I get he has had some nice moments. If you actually watch him play he relies heavily on midrange pull ups to score currently, already don't love that. Passing wise he makes the sound play, but nothing spectacular... Amen Thompson is a much better playmaker for example.

[JMAC3]

Keyonte George with a sick dunk just now! Wow didn't know he had that in his bag.

[UNCNYC]

Keyonte George dunk gonna be on SPORTSCENTER.

Baylor VS Kansas on now ESPN

[luciano-davidwesley]

Wemby looks like he'll need to improve his lower body strength a fair bit. He's also always finishing away from the basket on his drives/with his back to the basket. Granted he's 7'4 so maybe not a big deal if you can always just shoot over people and you have great shooting and finishing touch like he has

[JMAC3]

Perfect Draft for me today
1. Victor
28. Jalen Hood Schifino
34. Jalen Wilson
42. Jaime Jacquez Jr
48. Nikola Djurisic (draft stash)

[UNCNYC]

Perfect Draft for me today
1. Victor
28. Jalen Hood Schifino
34. Jalen Wilson
42. Jaime Jacquez Jr
48. Nikola Djurisic (draft stash)

I pretty much have that same exact list in reverse lmaooooo

[UNCNYC]

This video is the reason why I love Nikola Durisic so much.

Watch on YouTube

[wilson115]

I think some folks are undervaluing what Scoot can do on the NBA level, but there's no way VW is overrated as a prospect.

From a pure prospect perspective (say that 3x fast), VW is on the LeBron/Oden/Zion/Davis level of "this guy is going to be a HOFer"

Well you’re kind of going to lead into my argument. His sheer size and the way he plays is why I think he’s overrated. I don’t think he has 5 fully healthy years in the NBA. Similar to Zion/Oden/Davis. If scoot is an all star for 5 years there’s an argument he might be the better pick number 1.

Worries the hell out of me. Some people point to Ralph Sampson and ask how much of a haul #1 brings back in a trade this year.

[Diop]

Perfect Draft for me today
1. Victor
28. Jalen Hood Schifino
34. Jalen Wilson
42. Jaime Jacquez Jr
48. Nikola Djurisic (draft stash)

I was about to write the same top 2.

I’d resign Theo as backup insurance, let Smith walk and let Jalen grow into the point of attack defensive guard.

Ball, Theo
Martin, jalen
Miles, Hayward
Wemby, Pj
Williams, Richards

I’d prefer to trade away Rozier and Hayward. Commit to the young team

[Diop]

I think some folks are undervaluing what Scoot can do on the NBA level, but there's no way VW is overrated as a prospect.

From a pure prospect perspective (say that 3x fast), VW is on the LeBron/Oden/Zion/Davis level of "this guy is going to be a HOFer"

Well you’re kind of going to lead into my argument. His sheer size and the way he plays is why I think he’s overrated. I don’t think he has 5 fully healthy years in the NBA. Similar to Zion/Oden/Davis. If scoot is an all star for 5 years there’s an argument he might be the better pick number 1.

Worries the hell out of me. Some people point to Ralph Sampson and ask how much of a haul #1 brings back in a trade this year.

Porzingis has had a pretty good year

[UNCNYC]

Perfect Draft for me today
1. Victor
28. Jalen Hood Schifino
34. Jalen Wilson
42. Jaime Jacquez Jr
48. Nikola Djurisic (draft stash)

AWESOME list. I wouldn't expect anything less from ya. I'd be happy with every pick here except Victor. Here are some alternatives in case those players are gone in this very deep and super fun draft.. (and I left out many selections). Just insurance on draft day. Either way we should be great. Hope we keep the picks cause I doubt we have that many quality selections late

1. Victor - ( trade back and select - Noah Clowney, Azuolas Tubelis,)
28. Jalen Hood Schifino - ( Brandin Podziemski, Devin Carter, )
34. Jalen Wilson - ( Brice Sensabaugh, Colby Jones,)
42. Jaime Jacquez Jr - ( Tristan Da Silva, Jordan Miller, Keyontae Johnson )
48. Nikola Djurisic ( draft stash - Agustin UBAL )

IF GOES UNDRAFTED - Craig Porter JR, Dalton Knecht, Chris Ledlum, "KJ" Simpson JR,