Kyrie Irving: Load Management Narrative Has 'Dehumanized Some Of Us', 'This Is A 24/7 Job'

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Kyrie Irving: Load Management Narrative Has 'Dehumanized Some Of Us', 'This Is A 24/7 Job' 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:11 pm

Kyrie Irving was asked how he feels about the trend in the NBA for players to generally reduce the number of games they play in order to prevent or reduce injuries.


"I don't know who created the term 'load management' or guys sitting out games or this narrative that continues to play on about star players or guys not being available," said Irving. "I don't know who started the narrative, but it's completely run amok.


"I think it's dehumanized some of us in terms of just the way we prepare ourselves day-to-day. This is a 24/7 job. We have cameras on us all the time. It's a high-level, combative sport. It's very aggressive.


"Nobody knows how anyone else's body heals. The only person that knows is the person that is hurt or injured. We try our best to tell you guys what is going on, but you have doctors online telling everybody that he needs to be back in two weeks. You've got this person over here saying that he is not really hurt. He doesn't want to play.


"So I think the narratives have run amok. But us as players, we really take pride in preparing ourselves at a very high level and performing not only for our families, but for the fans that support us. We're nothing without our fans.


"I just think the narrative needs to change in terms of load management. Eighty-two games is a long season. I'm not saying we can't do it. We're in 2023. We have all the technology necessary. We have to use it wisely, and we have to be very communicative about what the plan is for everybody individually.


"Everybody's body is different. So you may see somebody heal in two weeks, but it may take someone else a month and a half to heal. It's just different."

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Post#2 » by jmbish87 » Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:31 pm

I feel like the NBA teams are way more responsible for load management than the players. A player usually has doctors, coaches, trainers and rehab specialists all making the decision if he's playing or not.
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Post#3 » by KootenayRapFan » Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:48 pm

I wonder how a guy working a construction job would feel about this making what? 20$/hr with no benefits...cant work no pay....these guys have lost all perspective of reality. These guys sign a contract that will pay them regardless most of the world doesnt work this way. Its hard for most of us to relate to this
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Post#4 » by baldur » Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:18 pm

Start the league early October and eliminate all the back to backs and give them no excuse to do load management.
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Post#5 » by Cavsfansince84 » Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:21 pm

KootenayRapFan wrote:I wonder how a guy working a construction job would feel about this making what? 20$/hr with no benefits...cant work no pay....these guys have lost all perspective of reality. These guys sign a contract that will pay them regardless most of the world doesnt work this way. Its hard for most of us to relate to this


Don't think its a matter of lost so much as the lives they've led have created their own perspective of reality which is largely different from what most people have experienced. On one hand its unrealistic to expect them to see things the way a regular person would because they've basically been put on pedestals since they were teenagers then given contracts for millions of $ to be a pro athlete. So expecting them to see things the way we do isn't really possible when it comes to their job and comparing it to people who work 40 or 50 hours a week just to pay their bills. They have almost no understanding of what that's like.
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Post#6 » by ItsDanger » Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:24 pm

Proof players are more spoiled today than ever. The little people out there just don't understand. If you miss playoffs, you get 5 months off.
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Post#7 » by SkynMan » Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:29 pm

I was a Kyrie character defender but I have to call out bull on this one. First of all the fact load management is only used on the superstar players is dehumanizing in itself. If role/young players chose to sit and miss games the teams with superstars would never be successful and these same superstars wouldn't be OK with that. Sure some players like Klay Thompson deserve load management because of the severity of his injury but Kyrie is lying to himself if he doesn't think certain guys don't abuse it or use injury as an excuse because they don't like the city/country the team is in. The NBA is the most progressive league out of them all and the players get a lot. At some point they gotta give something back to the fans. I stopped spending money on anything NBA related
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Post#8 » by kacey ring » Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:47 pm

baldur wrote:Start the league early October and eliminate all the back to backs and give them no excuse to do load management.


I suspect this to happen sooner or later. They can afford to cut the preseason back. Mavs only played 3 preseason games this year and seemed fine out the gate.
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Post#9 » by WRau1 » Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:59 pm

KootenayRapFan wrote:I wonder how a guy working a construction job would feel about this making what? 20$/hr with no benefits...cant work no pay....these guys have lost all perspective of reality. These guys sign a contract that will pay them regardless most of the world doesnt work this way. Its hard for most of us to relate to this


You can walk in off the street with 0 experience and get a job in construction. Normal comparisons don't exist here.
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Post#10 » by Slim Charless » Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:44 am

:lol:


Kyrie gonna Kyrie. Have fun Mavs. As a Suns fan, I'm looking forward to how "Kyrie-isms" and his general day to day attitude help you going forward.....see you in the playoffs. Maybe.
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Post#11 » by Lalouie » Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:13 am

wow,,,just wow

now if only kyrie would take his own advice and bring it to the floor 24/7

this is where those fawnish media people blow it and don't follow up kyrie and call him out
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Post#12 » by YourGM99 » Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:34 am

Does anyone have actual data for players missing games for rest or load management? The majority of games that are missed are due to actual injuries or back to back restrictions related to an injury. What player is missing more than 5 games per season due to load management?
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Post#13 » by Medbrat » Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:06 am

Slim Charless wrote::lol:


Kyrie gonna Kyrie. Have fun Mavs. As a Suns fan, I'm looking forward to how "Kyrie-isms" and his general day to day attitude help you going forward.....see you in the playoffs. Maybe.


Do you think there's a chance the Mavs drop to 7th and lose in the playins? Lmao
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Post#14 » by haste10176 » Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:27 am

YourGM99 wrote:Does anyone have actual data for players missing games for rest or load management? The majority of games that are missed are due to actual injuries or back to back restrictions related to an injury. What player is missing more than 5 games per season due to load management?


A ton of them tim duncan was missing 8 to 10 games a year due to load management back in the day.. Your crazy most players missing a ton of back to backs with load management.. The celtics say out there starting 5 going into a Game before a 9 day break.. Kyrie is delusional they get farrr more time off then other jobs and its way less stressful
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Post#15 » by Phreak50 » Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:42 am

Woe is me.

18/20 of the greatest players of all time never had load management.

Cry me a river.
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Post#16 » by YourGM99 » Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:46 am

haste10176 wrote:
YourGM99 wrote:Does anyone have actual data for players missing games for rest or load management? The majority of games that are missed are due to actual injuries or back to back restrictions related to an injury. What player is missing more than 5 games per season due to load management?


A ton of them tim duncan was missing 8 to 10 games a year due to load management back in the day.. Your crazy most players missing a ton of back to backs with load management.. The celtics say out there starting 5 going into a Game before a 9 day break.. Kyrie is delusional they get farrr more time off then other jobs and its way less stressful


I’m not talking about back when Tim Duncan was in the league. I’m talking about more recent, like the past two seasons. The Celtics sat their starters on a front end of a back to back but it was during a stretch of 4 games within 5 nights. The warriors have done something similar two times this season and they don’t have a similar scenario the rest of the season. So if this is happening 2 or 3 times a season I don’t see the big deal. I think people are looking at the games missed by stars and are assuming they are load managing when they are actually missing the majority of their games due to legitimate injuries.
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Post#17 » by puja21 » Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:03 am

Phreak50 wrote:Woe is me.

18/20 of the greatest players of all time never had load management.

Cry me a river.


and made way WAY less money (even inflation adjusted)

Meanwhile the rest of the world has seen wages stagnate despite inflation, and a decrease in both lifespan and standard of living

More pro athletes are blindly living in a self-absorbed bubble more than ever
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Post#18 » by stlboy » Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:32 am

You so call basketball fans are ridiculous, you have no idea what these players put their bodies through during a season and offseason. If you have a problem with players sitting due to injuries then take it up with the owners, Gms, and coaches. How do you have the audacity to compare the working public to professional athletes? These guys beat the odds to make it to the professional level, hell majority of you all don’t know what it takes to make it to the high school level. All you guys do is complain about how much athletes make, but never complain about how much the owners make when players are sitting.
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Post#19 » by kalel123 » Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:19 am

LOL a guy that finds all kinds reasons and excuses to miss chunks of games shouldn't be the one to speak on these matters.
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Post#20 » by og15 » Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:33 am

KootenayRapFan wrote:I wonder how a guy working a construction job would feel about this making what? 20$/hr with no benefits...cant work no pay....these guys have lost all perspective of reality. These guys sign a contract that will pay them regardless most of the world doesnt work this way. Its hard for most of us to relate to this

Of course these are very different jobs. An NBA player won’t understand that life.

On the other hand, because an NBA player makes so much and might be worth so much to his teams success, the team tries to “protect their asset”. There are many daily, not so great jobs you can do with an ankle sprain and swollen ankle, back pain etc, even ones that are tough, because they don’t require intense physical activity. Sports do in different sports specific ways, and that’s just how it it.

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