the history of realgm knicks

[stuporman]

Is it really an 'oral history' if it's being written down in posts on a forum?

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Oh man.


Someone should talk about the nicknames we had for some knicks and where they cane from for frye and al harrington.

NYNEX called Al Harrington "Free Candy" - somebody made a gif with his face and somebody taking a handful of candy. The joke was that he never saw a shot he didn't like. Like a kid getting greedy and grabbing handfuls when he passes a "free candy" bowl.

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Majorleads had my favorite nicks of all time. There was something about "Stiffbury" and "Eddy Chubby" that cracked me up. The beauty was their simplicity.

And Towelbury was one of his. I remember disagreeing with leads a lot, but I liked him. He was a good guy. He might have been a pro Bush republican if memory serves.

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Anyone remember that thread where Mugzi and a couple of other posters were going to meet up and box each other?

It was Darkcloud. Just one poster.

Darkcloud posted with a bit of an edge and attitude and he talked about being from the hood, but he got his hair cut at astor barber which he also talked about, so I joked about his hood on the lower east side, which wasn't really fair, he could have lived in Harlem or some tough parts of Brooklyn, but worked in downtown. You never know. A lot of fakes on the internet, but Darkcloud posted pretty consistently, and he was convincing.

So Darkcloud was talking tough and Mugzi challenged him to a fight, or Darkcloud said he'd fight anybody on the board and Mugzi accepted . . . I don't remember exactly, but the way they were discussing it, picking a place and time to meet, it sounded like they were both serious.

Knickfan, who was a mod at the time locked the thread. Two guys setting up a fight was way outside anything he'd allow. He ran a PG board, almost rated G.

Everyone was on Team Mugzi. Nobody liked Darkcloud. I'm pretty sure the fight never happened. If it did, I didn't see any mention of it.

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Anyone remember that thread where Mugzi and a couple of other posters were going to meet up and box each other?

Yea I remember that. I believe it was the piston fan comboguard and mugzi (not sure if it was mugzi though). That was internet tough guy at its best.

I think it was BernardKing not mugzi.

It might have happened more than once.

[Knicksman780]

Damn 26 pages and not one mention

I did come up with the "Just punch her in the face" thing that was mentioned. I think I said it when someone was asking for some advice of what he should do on a first date or something...

I was also known as Melo's Underwear...don't know who gave me that name but it was pretty funny. I met Mike Woodson (still friends BTW) through a good buddy and Woody hooked me up with a lot of gear. I showed a bunch of pics on here and some of it was Knicks boxer/briefs and socks and a dude on here said "Those are Melo's Underwear" and the name just stuck lol.

I did get to stay at the team hotels with the team a few times, met Steve Mills, who coincidentally was hired by my uncle at his first job when he graduated at Princeton at Chemical Bank, and had dinner with Allan Houston, Herb Williams, Mills and a few others in Miami too. Did shoot arounds with the team whenever they traveled to Florida too.

Of course nobody believed me until I wrote an article about the time that Phil Jackson had me removed from the team hotel because he implemented the "no outsider" rule.

Now I just lurk every now and then...

[Phish Tank]

I will say......

Other priorities (IYKYK) kept me from posting here as frequently as I once did.

With that being said, the coolest part of this forum is not that it's still the 2nd busiest team site, but also because some of the posters on this page ended up working in sports itself. Obviously the main reason why you don't see them here, but yea.

[Luv those Knicks]

Damn 26 pages and not one mention

I did come up with the "Just punch her in the face" thing that was mentioned. I think I said it when someone was asking for some advice of what he should do on a first date or something...

I was also known as Melo's Underwear...don't know who gave me that name but it was pretty funny. I met Mike Woodson (still friends BTW) through a good buddy and Woody hooked me up with a lot of gear. I showed a bunch of pics on here and some of it was Knicks boxer/briefs and socks and a dude on here said "Those are Melo's Underwear" and the name just stuck lol.

I did get to stay at the team hotels with the team a few times, met Steve Mills, who coincidentally was hired by my uncle at his first job when he graduated at Princeton at Chemical Bank, and had dinner with Allan Houston, Herb Williams, Mills and a few others in Miami too. Did shoot arounds with the team whenever they traveled to Florida too.

Of course nobody believed me until I wrote an article about the time that Phil Jackson had me removed from the team hotel because he implemented the "no outsider" rule.

Now I just lurk every now and then...

That's an impressive resume. Props. I'm just a fan,

For a lot of us very early posters it started with a site called Sportstalk and they had team boards, but not threads. It was just an open chat under each team and one poster could delete everything just by hitting space bar and return over and over like 50 times, but the internet was young and that's what there was. Sporstalk was king during the "king Kong" and "Son of Kong" trade talks. I remember Sportstalk shut down, I think during the playoffs, the timing couldn't have been worse. Then a lot of us found each other on RealGM and this became the place to talk Knicks.

I used to be the top dog around here. Really. I'm not boasting. For a while, maybe 6 months or a year, I was the #1, overall, top dog moderator and most active poster. I think I was the 2nd moderator after Knicksfan and for a while, the only moderator or certainly the most active. Then a few others became mods and began to get more active, and I began to post less often, but I used to lead the knick-board in posts, maybe all of RGM for a while early on. Other posters maybe had more respect, like NYNEX really knew his stuff and everyone liked him and HK had the occasional scoop, but I was the most active.

RGM was very different back then. Banning people was a lot harder. Mods couldn't do it, all we could do is ask an administrator, usually Howard I think, if he would ban someone and they could probably just create a new account too, so trolls could go to town on a board.

What made it even worse, fans of other teams, who weren't trolls, would come to the knicks board for a laugh. There were conversations on other team boards about how funny it was to visit the knicks board and read the trolls comments. It was easy to have multiple accounts too, so it was a free-for-all.

The Knicks board and Raptor board, the two biggest boards (Raptors board was bigger) were pretty much at war with each other - this was around the time when the Knicks were facing the Raptors in the playoffs and the Raps had a young Vince carter and were upstarts and the Knicks had Spree/Camby/Houston and were . . . they were OK, but not a title contender, and I could look it up, maybe the Raptors beat us two years in a row, maybe we beat them once. Spree played so hard though. He played one game with a broken bone in his foot. Spree was such a competitor. He's not remembered well, but he had a fire in him. He was fun to watch.

Then 9-11 happened and the Knicks and Raptor boards stopped fighting. I played a key role in making the peace, spending a lot of time on the Toronto board, but 9-11 was the real reason the boards stopped fighting.

Rel Sharon was a poster from Israel who came here to basically trash the Knicks and he did it often and just blatant insults on the team, too short, too slow, can't shoot . . . we all hated him.

Then one day, I don't know who it was, but one poster made an account (back when you could make more than one quite easily), ReI Sharon (capital "i" instead of lower case l, so it looked exactly the same. And he made this avatar of this jewish kid with pimples and he started posting stuff like "I'm sorry. I'm a lonely virgin and that's why I've been saying all these mean things" . . . and the real Rel Sharon, after seeing that, threw in the towel and said, OK, I'll stop, please don't post that account anymore and he left . . . and there was much rejoicing.

GinobiliRoy was mentioned and he was a real jerk, who came here to explain to us that the knicks were bad and, give him credit, he was right that Ginobili turned into an impressive player, but he would write these essays on what was wrong with the Knicks and we all hated him. He made this prediction early in the season, and you have to understand, this guy was a jerk to us for months, so he had the post bookmarked and he was planning on bumping it and I deleted the post before he could bump it. A mod no-no and oh my god was he pissed. He posted like 10 times "Undelete it". You could tell he was furious, which of course, we couldn't do. It was gone. I wouldn't do that to somebody today, but he was such a jerk to us, that I did it, and I felt kind of bad about it, because he was actually right in everything he predicted, but he was a jerk too. In hindsight I should have saved a copy and maybe sent it to him a week later, or something.

These days, that kind of trolling will get you banned, but not then.

I didn't see this mentioned but Dikembesayno (DSN) was for a while, the most active poster and several people thought he should be a moderator. He went to the NBA draft one time and he was able to get photos. He said he was from RealGM, which earned him a suspension and nearly got him banned. It also ended any chance he'd ever be a moderator. RealGM is a business with employees and a poster can't walk up to someone and say "I'm from realGM" . . . though I suppose you could say that you post on real GM, but DSN was able to get photos of some of the players who attended the draft. The one I remember was Sofoklis (sp?), the Greek Shaq. Sofo looked downright pissed in that photo, which I think had nothing to do with DSN, and everything to do with Sofo falling to the 2nd round (5th pick in the 2nd round). But he got photos of a maybe 3 players and posted them here. The next day he was banned, which was later reduced to a suspension.

Sofo was a big dude. I just googled him. He was a monster. Built like Eddy Curry if you turned all the fat into muscle. He never made it to the NBA, but he was kind of a big deal in discussions prior to the draft in 2003. Still under contract with greece, he made it to the NBA after his contract was up for the summer league 2010 (which seems wrong to me - 7 years?), but the clippers were unimpressed and didn't offer him a contract. I guess he could have been bought out and come earlier, but it didn't happen.

Oh . . . one more story, very early. I don't remember the posters name but you get the feeling he was a kid. In fact, I know he was. He talked about being in high school or 7th grade or something when 9-11 happened and how the class fell silent and had a conversation instead of teaching the subject that day. He was very upset by 9-11, which I think a lot of us were, but even 2 years later he still wanted to talk about it. He wasn't that active, but he was memorable.

But before then, this was about 2000 or 2001, before 9-11, the internet was still fairly young and not everyone knew how to do things like make avatars one poster asked if he'd set up an avatar for him, and gave him the password, so this kid sets up the avatar for the other poster, then, a few days later, using his password . . . wrote a post "Do you remember that kid - mentioned the screen name, and real name" and said "he died in a car accident" and we had the expected response of "that sucks" and "I'm sorry", but he was just faking his death, online, from the account where the other guy gave him his password. The funny part was when that real poster logged in he saw the post and he was like "WTF, I didn't write this - the kid with my password wrote it, he's faking his death online" and of course, that guy changed his password after that, so it wouldn't happen again.

It wasn't that it was that funny, but it was very odd. That and, the poster came back after 9-11 and talked about 9-11, so I guess he didn't really want to fake his death afterall.

And there was a very funny poster named "the Voice" or maybe it was just "Voice" and he created 2 alts. "Mr. Phule", with a funny picture, I don't know hot to describe it, but Phule (fool) was this character who thought he was so smart, but was so dumb, and he had this other character "too crisp", with a photo of, I think, a guy wearing a lot of bling, trying to look cool, but Voice wrote the two alts perfectly, they never went out of character and they were both so funny. It's hard to explain. Voice also did a lot of gay humor which might not fly today, but it was funny then.

And NYNEX worked for the Hawks for a while. He was very open about being a Knicks fan, and his employers knew about it and they were cool with it. He met a lot of players with that job and he coached a . . . I want to say little league but maybe it was junior high school kids basketball team for a while. He talked about breaking the rules and giving them 2 hour practices when practice was supposed to be limited to 1 hour or less, and the kids loved it. Everybody liked NYNEX. He knew his stuff.

and TKF was well liked too. I'm not sure what happened later on but he was one of the early, well liked posters.

HellsKitchen worked for the NYPost. Maybe he still does. That was his source, so he was just a few hours ahead of when most things got reported. The NYPost, being a conservative paper, he mentioned he met Ann Coulter there once. He said she's prettier in person. I'm not a fan of women with adams apples that talk constantly about conservative talking points, so I'll just put that out there. HK did break a few stories, but he wanted to keep it quiet and at one point he just stopped doing it. He was a good guy and a good poster. We all liked him.

NYKinOZ, Spandau . . . many others came on board. I'm forgetting a lot of names especially names with NY or Knicks in them cause those blend together in my memory, so . . . there was a mod with NY in his name, I just can't remember exactly, who was a mod for a long time and a good poster.

OK - that's from the very early days.

JCBigSis was cool and she'd been confirmed by the admin at RGM and Bulls board before JC was traded here, so the mods here were told she was legit and we told the posters, and it started out nice and she'd ask for info like which airport to fly into and stuff like that, but after a few months when the critisism started, she left.

Zeke206 (I think) was also confirmed as Isiah's son and one of the drops was that Isiah liked Channing Frye and planned to draft him. Zeke had inside info but he was maybe 10 at the time and one time he got a college kid and a high school kid mixed up when talking about the draft and a poster tore into him "you don't know anything" and this was a 10 year old kid who really did have inside info, but the damage was done.

I have no idea who the talking clam was, but some people thought he had sources. I was never convinced.

Anyway, my memory sucks (which is why I didn't remember who Carmelo punched during the brawl), earlier post in this thread. Hek, I didn't even remember Geno Smith getting his jaw broken over $600 when I made my Geno smith post . . . Memory is fallible, but I digress. The board got much bigger over time. Then I went away for a few years when life happened, came back around 2013, I'm guessing by my posts earlier in this thread and the board was so large, it was hard to keep up. Large boards are good in some ways but I like smaller boards where it's busy enough to get all the news, rumors, frustrations, celebrations and opinions, but small enough that I can read everything. A personal preference.

I still found what the Nuggets fans were saying after the Melo/Nate brawl so funny, like Mardy Collins should get a 25-game suspension for starting it and Nate a 20-game suspension, but Melo should get a 1 game suspension for responding (Melo was the one who threw a punch after I think the brawl was beginning to quiet down . . . but again - memory. Not 100%). Anyway, I knew the Nugget fans were being completely unrealistic in their expectations and that's what I found so funny about the whole thing. The Knicks were terrible anyway, so I didn't care who got suspended.

The board was much smaller in the early years. It was a couple years I think before we had our first 100 post thread, which became nothing later on, but fewer people meant more of us knew each other. we used to crack jokes all day long, some of us, while at work. Part of the reason I lost my job in 2002 was that I spent too much time on RGM.

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[HarthorneWingo]

Yea I remember that. I believe it was the piston fan comboguard and mugzi (not sure if it was mugzi though). That was internet tough guy at its best.

I think it was BernardKing not mugzi.

It might have happened more than once.

It was mugzi and it was me he was going to fight and choke me out with his 18" biceps. Meanwhile he lives in California and I was in Philadelphia at the time.

My And1 % would be much higher if I didn't waste 10,000 posts arguing politics with that guy.

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It was mugzi and it was me he was going to fight and choke me out with his 18" biceps. Meanwhile he lives in California and I was in Philadelphia at the time.

My And1 % would be much higher if I didn't waste 10,000 posts arguing politics with that guy.

Mugzi was always down for a fight, and he posted with a chip on his shoulder.

[HarthorneWingo]

It was mugzi and it was me he was going to fight and choke me out with his 18" biceps. Meanwhile he lives in California and I was in Philadelphia at the time.

My And1 % would be much higher if I didn't waste 10,000 posts arguing politics with that guy.

Mugzi was always down for a fight, and he posted with a chip on his shoulder.

That was my first introduction to him. I still remember it. I light-heartedly busted his nuts by mentioning him in a comment and he came back at me throwing haymakers telling me how he was going to “pull my card” if I stepped out of line, or words to that effect.

It was a crazy time then too with Bush/Cheney lying us into the Iraq War 2. We always think it can get worse … but it does. But I digress.

I actually began to feel sympathy for him because I then learned that he had a rough upbringing and had to do a lot of fending for himself which I’m sure had a profound impact on his very libertarian views.

[HarthorneWingo]

We should make this an RealGM Knicks Old Timers thread and sticky it so that people who haven’t posted here in ages have a place to come and say “GTFO and STFU”.

[KnicksGadfly]

I think it was BernardKing not mugzi.

It might have happened more than once.

It was mugzi and it was me he was going to fight and choke me out with his 18" biceps. Meanwhile he lives in California and I was in Philadelphia at the time.

My And1 % would be much higher if I didn't waste 10,000 posts arguing politics with that guy.

Bro, why’s it always you

[KnicksGadfly]

Damn 26 pages and not one mention

I did come up with the "Just punch her in the face" thing that was mentioned. I think I said it when someone was asking for some advice of what he should do on a first date or something...

I was also known as Melo's Underwear...don't know who gave me that name but it was pretty funny. I met Mike Woodson (still friends BTW) through a good buddy and Woody hooked me up with a lot of gear. I showed a bunch of pics on here and some of it was Knicks boxer/briefs and socks and a dude on here said "Those are Melo's Underwear" and the name just stuck lol.

I did get to stay at the team hotels with the team a few times, met Steve Mills, who coincidentally was hired by my uncle at his first job when he graduated at Princeton at Chemical Bank, and had dinner with Allan Houston, Herb Williams, Mills and a few others in Miami too. Did shoot arounds with the team whenever they traveled to Florida too.

Of course nobody believed me until I wrote an article about the time that Phil Jackson had me removed from the team hotel because he implemented the "no outsider" rule.

Now I just lurk every now and then...

That's an impressive resume. Props. I'm just a fan,

For a lot of us very early posters it started with a site called Sportstalk and they had team boards, but not threads. It was just an open chat under each team and one poster could delete everything just by hitting space bar and return over and over like 50 times, but the internet was young and that's what there was. Sporstalk was king during the "king Kong" and "Son of Kong" trade talks. I remember Sportstalk shut down, I think during the playoffs, the timing couldn't have been worse. Then a lot of us found each other on RealGM and this became the place to talk Knicks.

I used to be the top dog around here. Really. I'm not boasting. For a while, maybe 6 months or a year, I was the #1, overall, top dog moderator and most active poster. I think I was the 2nd moderator after Knicksfan and for a while, the only moderator or certainly the most active. Then a few others became mods and began to get more active, and I began to post less often, but I used to lead the knick-board in posts, maybe all of RGM for a while early on. Other posters maybe had more respect, like NYNEX really knew his stuff and everyone liked him and HK had the occasional scoop, but I was the most active.

RGM was very different back then. Banning people was a lot harder. Mods couldn't do it, all we could do is ask an administrator, usually Howard I think, if he would ban someone and they could probably just create a new account too, so trolls could go to town on a board.

What made it even worse, fans of other teams, who weren't trolls, would come to the knicks board for a laugh. There were conversations on other team boards about how funny it was to visit the knicks board and read the trolls comments. It was easy to have multiple accounts too, so it was a free-for-all.

The Knicks board and Raptor board, the two biggest boards (Raptors board was bigger) were pretty much at war with each other - this was around the time when the Knicks were facing the Raptors in the playoffs and the Raps had a young Vince carter and were upstarts and the Knicks had Spree/Camby/Houston and were . . . they were OK, but not a title contender, and I could look it up, maybe the Raptors beat us two years in a row, maybe we beat them once. Spree played so hard though. He played one game with a broken bone in his foot. Spree was such a competitor. He's not remembered well, but he had a fire in him. He was fun to watch.

Then 9-11 happened and the Knicks and Raptor boards stopped fighting. I played a key role in making the peace, spending a lot of time on the Toronto board, but 9-11 was the real reason the boards stopped fighting.

Rel Sharon was a poster from Israel who came here to basically trash the Knicks and he did it often and just blatant insults on the team, too short, too slow, can't shoot . . . we all hated him.

Then one day, I don't know who it was, but one poster made an account (back when you could make more than one quite easily), ReI Sharon (capital "i" instead of lower case l, so it looked exactly the same. And he made this avatar of this jewish kid with pimples and he started posting stuff like "I'm sorry. I'm a lonely virgin and that's why I've been saying all these mean things" . . . and the real Rel Sharon, after seeing that, threw in the towel and said, OK, I'll stop, please don't post that account anymore and he left . . . and there was much rejoicing.

GinobiliRoy was mentioned and he was a real jerk, who came here to explain to us that the knicks were bad and, give him credit, he was right that Ginobili turned into an impressive player, but he would write these essays on what was wrong with the Knicks and we all hated him. He made this prediction early in the season, and you have to understand, this guy was a jerk to us for months, so he had the post bookmarked and he was planning on bumping it and I deleted the post before he could bump it. A mod no-no and oh my god was he pissed. He posted like 10 times "Undelete it". You could tell he was furious, which of course, we couldn't do. It was gone. I wouldn't do that to somebody today, but he was such a jerk to us, that I did it, and I felt kind of bad about it, because he was actually right in everything he predicted, but he was a jerk too. In hindsight I should have saved a copy and maybe sent it to him a week later, or something.

These days, that kind of trolling will get you banned, but not then.

I didn't see this mentioned but Dikembesayno (DSN) was for a while, the most active poster and several people thought he should be a moderator. He went to the NBA draft one time and he was able to get photos. He said he was from RealGM, which earned him a suspension and nearly got him banned. It also ended any chance he'd ever be a moderator. RealGM is a business with employees and a poster can't walk up to someone and say "I'm from realGM" . . . though I suppose you could say that you post on real GM, but DSN was able to get photos of some of the players who attended the draft. The one I remember was Sofoklis (sp?), the Greek Shaq. Sofo looked downright pissed in that photo, which I think had nothing to do with DSN, and everything to do with Sofo falling to the 2nd round (5th pick in the 2nd round). But he got photos of a maybe 3 players and posted them here. The next day he was banned, which was later reduced to a suspension.

Sofo was a big dude. I just googled him. He was a monster. Built like Eddy Curry if you turned all the fat into muscle. He never made it to the NBA, but he was kind of a big deal in discussions prior to the draft in 2003. Still under contract with greece, he made it to the NBA after his contract was up for the summer league 2010 (which seems wrong to me - 7 years?), but the clippers were unimpressed and didn't offer him a contract. I guess he could have been bought out and come earlier, but it didn't happen.

Oh . . . one more story, very early. I don't remember the posters name but you get the feeling he was a kid. In fact, I know he was. He talked about being in high school or 7th grade or something when 9-11 happened and how the class fell silent and had a conversation instead of teaching the subject that day. He was very upset by 9-11, which I think a lot of us were, but even 2 years later he still wanted to talk about it. He wasn't that active, but he was memorable.

But before then, this was about 2000 or 2001, before 9-11, the internet was still fairly young and not everyone knew how to do things like make avatars one poster asked if he'd set up an avatar for him, and gave him the password, so this kid sets up the avatar for the other poster, then, a few days later, using his password . . . wrote a post "Do you remember that kid - mentioned the screen name, and real name" and said "he died in a car accident" and we had the expected response of "that sucks" and "I'm sorry", but he was just faking his death, online, from the account where the other guy gave him his password. The funny part was when that real poster logged in he saw the post and he was like "WTF, I didn't write this - the kid with my password wrote it, he's faking his death online" and of course, that guy changed his password after that, so it wouldn't happen again.

It wasn't that it was that funny, but it was very odd. That and, the poster came back after 9-11 and talked about 9-11, so I guess he didn't really want to fake his death afterall.

And there was a very funny poster named "the Voice" or maybe it was just "Voice" and he created 2 alts. "Mr. Phule", with a funny picture, I don't know hot to describe it, but Phule (fool) was this character who thought he was so smart, but was so dumb, and he had this other character "too crisp", with a photo of, I think, a guy wearing a lot of bling, trying to look cool, but Voice wrote the two alts perfectly, they never went out of character and they were both so funny. It's hard to explain. Voice also did a lot of gay humor which might not fly today, but it was funny then.

And NYNEX worked for the Hawks for a while. He was very open about being a Knicks fan, and his employers knew about it and they were cool with it. He met a lot of players with that job and he coached a . . . I want to say little league but maybe it was junior high school kids basketball team for a while. He talked about breaking the rules and giving them 2 hour practices when practice was supposed to be limited to 1 hour or less, and the kids loved it. Everybody liked NYNEX. He knew his stuff.

and TKF was well liked too. I'm not sure what happened later on but he was one of the early, well liked posters.

HellsKitchen worked for the NYPost. Maybe he still does. That was his source, so he was just a few hours ahead of when most things got reported. The NYPost, being a conservative paper, he mentioned he met Ann Coulter there once. He said she's prettier in person. I'm not a fan of women with adams apples that talk constantly about conservative talking points, so I'll just put that out there. HK did break a few stories, but he wanted to keep it quiet and at one point he just stopped doing it. He was a good guy and a good poster. We all liked him.

NYKinOZ, Spandau . . . many others came on board. I'm forgetting a lot of names especially names with NY or Knicks in them cause those blend together in my memory, so . . . there was a mod with NY in his name, I just can't remember exactly, who was a mod for a long time and a good poster.

OK - that's from the very early days.

JCBigSis was cool and she'd been confirmed by the admin at RGM and Bulls board before JC was traded here, so the mods here were told she was legit and we told the posters, and it started out nice and she'd ask for info like which airport to fly into and stuff like that, but after a few months when the critisism started, she left.

Zeke206 (I think) was also confirmed as Isiah's son and one of the drops was that Isiah liked Channing Frye and planned to draft him. Zeke had inside info but he was maybe 10 at the time and one time he got a college kid and a high school kid mixed up when talking about the draft and a poster tore into him "you don't know anything" and this was a 10 year old kid who really did have inside info, but the damage was done.

I have no idea who the talking clam was, but some people thought he had sources. I was never convinced.

Anyway, my memory sucks (which is why I didn't remember who Carmelo punched during the brawl), earlier post in this thread. Hek, I didn't even remember Geno Smith getting his jaw broken over $600 when I made my Geno smith post . . . Memory is fallible, but I digress. The board got much bigger over time. Then I went away for a few years when life happened, came back around 2013, I'm guessing by my posts earlier in this thread and the board was so large, it was hard to keep up. Large boards are good in some ways but I like smaller boards where it's busy enough to get all the news, rumors, frustrations, celebrations and opinions, but small enough that I can read everything. A personal preference.

I still found what the Nuggets fans were saying after the Melo/Nate brawl so funny, like Mardy Collins should get a 25-game suspension for starting it and Nate a 20-game suspension, but Melo should get a 1 game suspension for responding (Melo was the one who threw a punch after I think the brawl was beginning to quiet down . . . but again - memory. Not 100%). Anyway, I knew the Nugget fans were being completely unrealistic in their expectations and that's what I found so funny about the whole thing. The Knicks were terrible anyway, so I didn't care who got suspended.

The board was much smaller in the early years. It was a couple years I think before we had our first 100 post thread, which became nothing later on, but fewer people meant more of us knew each other. we used to crack jokes all day long, some of us, while at work. Part of the reason I lost my job in 2002 was that I spent too much time on RGM.

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Damn, this is what I came here to read

[3toheadmelo]

Damn 26 pages and not one mention

I did come up with the "Just punch her in the face" thing that was mentioned. I think I said it when someone was asking for some advice of what he should do on a first date or something...

I was also known as Melo's Underwear...don't know who gave me that name but it was pretty funny. I met Mike Woodson (still friends BTW) through a good buddy and Woody hooked me up with a lot of gear. I showed a bunch of pics on here and some of it was Knicks boxer/briefs and socks and a dude on here said "Those are Melo's Underwear" and the name just stuck lol.

I did get to stay at the team hotels with the team a few times, met Steve Mills, who coincidentally was hired by my uncle at his first job when he graduated at Princeton at Chemical Bank, and had dinner with Allan Houston, Herb Williams, Mills and a few others in Miami too. Did shoot arounds with the team whenever they traveled to Florida too.

Of course nobody believed me until I wrote an article about the time that Phil Jackson had me removed from the team hotel because he implemented the "no outsider" rule.

Now I just lurk every now and then...

That's an impressive resume. Props. I'm just a fan,

For a lot of us very early posters it started with a site called Sportstalk and they had team boards, but not threads. It was just an open chat under each team and one poster could delete everything just by hitting space bar and return over and over like 50 times, but the internet was young and that's what there was. Sporstalk was king during the "king Kong" and "Son of Kong" trade talks. I remember Sportstalk shut down, I think during the playoffs, the timing couldn't have been worse. Then a lot of us found each other on RealGM and this became the place to talk Knicks.

I used to be the top dog around here. Really. I'm not boasting. For a while, maybe 6 months or a year, I was the #1, overall, top dog moderator and most active poster. I think I was the 2nd moderator after Knicksfan and for a while, the only moderator or certainly the most active. Then a few others became mods and began to get more active, and I began to post less often, but I used to lead the knick-board in posts, maybe all of RGM for a while early on. Other posters maybe had more respect, like NYNEX really knew his stuff and everyone liked him and HK had the occasional scoop, but I was the most active.

RGM was very different back then. Banning people was a lot harder. Mods couldn't do it, all we could do is ask an administrator, usually Howard I think, if he would ban someone and they could probably just create a new account too, so trolls could go to town on a board.

What made it even worse, fans of other teams, who weren't trolls, would come to the knicks board for a laugh. There were conversations on other team boards about how funny it was to visit the knicks board and read the trolls comments. It was easy to have multiple accounts too, so it was a free-for-all.

The Knicks board and Raptor board, the two biggest boards (Raptors board was bigger) were pretty much at war with each other - this was around the time when the Knicks were facing the Raptors in the playoffs and the Raps had a young Vince carter and were upstarts and the Knicks had Spree/Camby/Houston and were . . . they were OK, but not a title contender, and I could look it up, maybe the Raptors beat us two years in a row, maybe we beat them once. Spree played so hard though. He played one game with a broken bone in his foot. Spree was such a competitor. He's not remembered well, but he had a fire in him. He was fun to watch.

Then 9-11 happened and the Knicks and Raptor boards stopped fighting. I played a key role in making the peace, spending a lot of time on the Toronto board, but 9-11 was the real reason the boards stopped fighting.

Rel Sharon was a poster from Israel who came here to basically trash the Knicks and he did it often and just blatant insults on the team, too short, too slow, can't shoot . . . we all hated him.

Then one day, I don't know who it was, but one poster made an account (back when you could make more than one quite easily), ReI Sharon (capital "i" instead of lower case l, so it looked exactly the same. And he made this avatar of this jewish kid with pimples and he started posting stuff like "I'm sorry. I'm a lonely virgin and that's why I've been saying all these mean things" . . . and the real Rel Sharon, after seeing that, threw in the towel and said, OK, I'll stop, please don't post that account anymore and he left . . . and there was much rejoicing.

GinobiliRoy was mentioned and he was a real jerk, who came here to explain to us that the knicks were bad and, give him credit, he was right that Ginobili turned into an impressive player, but he would write these essays on what was wrong with the Knicks and we all hated him. He made this prediction early in the season, and you have to understand, this guy was a jerk to us for months, so he had the post bookmarked and he was planning on bumping it and I deleted the post before he could bump it. A mod no-no and oh my god was he pissed. He posted like 10 times "Undelete it". You could tell he was furious, which of course, we couldn't do. It was gone. I wouldn't do that to somebody today, but he was such a jerk to us, that I did it, and I felt kind of bad about it, because he was actually right in everything he predicted, but he was a jerk too. In hindsight I should have saved a copy and maybe sent it to him a week later, or something.

These days, that kind of trolling will get you banned, but not then.

I didn't see this mentioned but Dikembesayno (DSN) was for a while, the most active poster and several people thought he should be a moderator. He went to the NBA draft one time and he was able to get photos. He said he was from RealGM, which earned him a suspension and nearly got him banned. It also ended any chance he'd ever be a moderator. RealGM is a business with employees and a poster can't walk up to someone and say "I'm from realGM" . . . though I suppose you could say that you post on real GM, but DSN was able to get photos of some of the players who attended the draft. The one I remember was Sofoklis (sp?), the Greek Shaq. Sofo looked downright pissed in that photo, which I think had nothing to do with DSN, and everything to do with Sofo falling to the 2nd round (5th pick in the 2nd round). But he got photos of a maybe 3 players and posted them here. The next day he was banned, which was later reduced to a suspension.

Sofo was a big dude. I just googled him. He was a monster. Built like Eddy Curry if you turned all the fat into muscle. He never made it to the NBA, but he was kind of a big deal in discussions prior to the draft in 2003. Still under contract with greece, he made it to the NBA after his contract was up for the summer league 2010 (which seems wrong to me - 7 years?), but the clippers were unimpressed and didn't offer him a contract. I guess he could have been bought out and come earlier, but it didn't happen.

Oh . . . one more story, very early. I don't remember the posters name but you get the feeling he was a kid. In fact, I know he was. He talked about being in high school or 7th grade or something when 9-11 happened and how the class fell silent and had a conversation instead of teaching the subject that day. He was very upset by 9-11, which I think a lot of us were, but even 2 years later he still wanted to talk about it. He wasn't that active, but he was memorable.

But before then, this was about 2000 or 2001, before 9-11, the internet was still fairly young and not everyone knew how to do things like make avatars one poster asked if he'd set up an avatar for him, and gave him the password, so this kid sets up the avatar for the other poster, then, a few days later, using his password . . . wrote a post "Do you remember that kid - mentioned the screen name, and real name" and said "he died in a car accident" and we had the expected response of "that sucks" and "I'm sorry", but he was just faking his death, online, from the account where the other guy gave him his password. The funny part was when that real poster logged in he saw the post and he was like "WTF, I didn't write this - the kid with my password wrote it, he's faking his death online" and of course, that guy changed his password after that, so it wouldn't happen again.

It wasn't that it was that funny, but it was very odd. That and, the poster came back after 9-11 and talked about 9-11, so I guess he didn't really want to fake his death afterall.

And there was a very funny poster named "the Voice" or maybe it was just "Voice" and he created 2 alts. "Mr. Phule", with a funny picture, I don't know hot to describe it, but Phule (fool) was this character who thought he was so smart, but was so dumb, and he had this other character "too crisp", with a photo of, I think, a guy wearing a lot of bling, trying to look cool, but Voice wrote the two alts perfectly, they never went out of character and they were both so funny. It's hard to explain. Voice also did a lot of gay humor which might not fly today, but it was funny then.

And NYNEX worked for the Hawks for a while. He was very open about being a Knicks fan, and his employers knew about it and they were cool with it. He met a lot of players with that job and he coached a . . . I want to say little league but maybe it was junior high school kids basketball team for a while. He talked about breaking the rules and giving them 2 hour practices when practice was supposed to be limited to 1 hour or less, and the kids loved it. Everybody liked NYNEX. He knew his stuff.

and TKF was well liked too. I'm not sure what happened later on but he was one of the early, well liked posters.

HellsKitchen worked for the NYPost. Maybe he still does. That was his source, so he was just a few hours ahead of when most things got reported. The NYPost, being a conservative paper, he mentioned he met Ann Coulter there once. He said she's prettier in person. I'm not a fan of women with adams apples that talk constantly about conservative talking points, so I'll just put that out there. HK did break a few stories, but he wanted to keep it quiet and at one point he just stopped doing it. He was a good guy and a good poster. We all liked him.

NYKinOZ, Spandau . . . many others came on board. I'm forgetting a lot of names especially names with NY or Knicks in them cause those blend together in my memory, so . . . there was a mod with NY in his name, I just can't remember exactly, who was a mod for a long time and a good poster.

OK - that's from the very early days.

JCBigSis was cool and she'd been confirmed by the admin at RGM and Bulls board before JC was traded here, so the mods here were told she was legit and we told the posters, and it started out nice and she'd ask for info like which airport to fly into and stuff like that, but after a few months when the critisism started, she left.

Zeke206 (I think) was also confirmed as Isiah's son and one of the drops was that Isiah liked Channing Frye and planned to draft him. Zeke had inside info but he was maybe 10 at the time and one time he got a college kid and a high school kid mixed up when talking about the draft and a poster tore into him "you don't know anything" and this was a 10 year old kid who really did have inside info, but the damage was done.

I have no idea who the talking clam was, but some people thought he had sources. I was never convinced.

Anyway, my memory sucks (which is why I didn't remember who Carmelo punched during the brawl), earlier post in this thread. Hek, I didn't even remember Geno Smith getting his jaw broken over $600 when I made my Geno smith post . . . Memory is fallible, but I digress. The board got much bigger over time. Then I went away for a few years when life happened, came back around 2013, I'm guessing by my posts earlier in this thread and the board was so large, it was hard to keep up. Large boards are good in some ways but I like smaller boards where it's busy enough to get all the news, rumors, frustrations, celebrations and opinions, but small enough that I can read everything. A personal preference.

I still found what the Nuggets fans were saying after the Melo/Nate brawl so funny, like Mardy Collins should get a 25-game suspension for starting it and Nate a 20-game suspension, but Melo should get a 1 game suspension for responding (Melo was the one who threw a punch after I think the brawl was beginning to quiet down . . . but again - memory. Not 100%). Anyway, I knew the Nugget fans were being completely unrealistic in their expectations and that's what I found so funny about the whole thing. The Knicks were terrible anyway, so I didn't care who got suspended.

The board was much smaller in the early years. It was a couple years I think before we had our first 100 post thread, which became nothing later on, but fewer people meant more of us knew each other. we used to crack jokes all day long, some of us, while at work. Part of the reason I lost my job in 2002 was that I spent too much time on RGM.

too much info?

I appreciate the history lesson here salute to you OG

[KnicksFan7]

We should make this an RealGM Knicks Old Timers thread and sticky it so that people who haven’t posted here in ages have a place to come and say “GTFO and STFU”.

Great idea! Now GTFO and STFU...

[The Lamma]

I was looking for the free candy pic

bump bump bump

edit: damn this thread is toothless without all the pics

[The Lamma]

Q2N8 ftw

Think it was BlueNOrange who caught him at a Knicks/Pistons game with his mom

[NYKinMIA]

yo what the hell happened to thugger?

he was cool

[Phish Tank]

yo what the hell happened to thugger?

he was cool

i believe life took over for him