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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#101 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:02 pm

Mr B wrote:Would you guys trade for Stefon Diggs? If so what would you be willing to give up?

Not for Diggs, but I would think about Higgins. Higgins would be a perfect fit for us. But I don't want to give up anything. We need 3 nice pieces on defense and another O-lineman. I think we will be just fine. Lets see what shakes out of the trees going forward. We should be able to find another Fa WR after the draft. Plus Diggs isn't the best chemistry and locker room guy.
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Post#102 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:08 pm

Mr B wrote:Here’s another question. I saw that Baltimore is open to trading Jackson. For cap reasons this trade could never happen however if you could, would y’all trade Dak for Jackson?

Jackson's playing style alone would not be a good fit. His upcoming contract would put us in a more difficult situation than we are with Dumb Dak and IMHO Jackson is a horrible pocket passer and that alone would make me say no to him. That's way too much money for a QB that can't throw. The past two years he is getting more injury prone due to him taking so many hits the past 4 years with his playing style.
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#103 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:19 pm

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Mr B wrote:Here’s another question. I saw that Baltimore is open to trading Jackson. For cap reasons this trade could never happen however if you could, would y’all trade Dak for Jackson?

Jackson's playing style alone would not be a good fit. His upcoming contract would put us in a more difficult situation than we are with Dumb Dak and IMHO Jackson is a horrible pocket passer and that alone would make me say no to him. That's way too much money for a QB that can't throw. The past two years he is getting more injury prone due to him taking so many hits the past 4 years with his playing style.

Yeah, running QB's like Lamar have shorter careers.

It's also a huge red flag that Baltimore hasn't extended him yet. They're one of the smarter teams in the league.


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Post#104 » by Otis Driftwood » Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:42 pm

Welp...

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Post#105 » by Mr B » Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:27 pm

Otis Driftwood wrote:Welp...

Bye.

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His agent will figure out his value, what a joke. How about letting the open market figure out his value.
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Post#106 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:14 pm

The correct move is to cut him and honestly some team out there will surely overpay Zeke so it's in his best interests too.

It should probably be viewed as commendable that Zeke wants to stay a Cowboy and to be honest the guy is irrationally hated by fans. Zeke was a great runner early in his career.
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Post#107 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:45 pm

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Otis Driftwood wrote:Welp...

Bye.

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His agent will figure out his value, what a joke. How about letting the open market figure out his value.

Just the thought of thinking about bringing Elliott back is sickening. Not one ounce of common sense from Jerry, Stephen and the front office on this one. You would have thought Jerry would have learned his lesson's years ago that set us back many years and took Stephen 4 years to clean up so we could make moves again. Until the culture changes, the Cowboys are going no where. Zeke's last 50 carries down the stretch when needed the most, 50 carries for 101 yards. Elliott made 12 million more than Pollard did last year and what a return on the investment. Count me out when it comes to this junkie. Should be a no brainer. And they say Jerry is a good businessman. :giveup:
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Post#108 » by Mr B » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:04 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:The correct move is to cut him and honestly some team out there will surely overpay Zeke so it's in his best interests too.

It should probably be viewed as commendable that Zeke wants to stay a Cowboy and to be honest the guy is irrationally hated by fans. Zeke was a great runner early in his career.

I don’t see any team over paying for Zeke. Honestly his career is likely over.
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Post#109 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:15 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:The correct move is to cut him and honestly some team out there will surely overpay Zeke so it's in his best interests too.

It should probably be viewed as commendable that Zeke wants to stay a Cowboy and to be honest the guy is irrationally hated by fans. Zeke was a great runner early in his career.

I don’t see any team over paying for Zeke. Honestly his career is likely over.

:thumbsup: Totally agree.
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#110 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:15 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:The correct move is to cut him and honestly some team out there will surely overpay Zeke so it's in his best interests too.

It should probably be viewed as commendable that Zeke wants to stay a Cowboy and to be honest the guy is irrationally hated by fans. Zeke was a great runner early in his career.

I don’t see any team over paying for Zeke. Honestly his career is likely over.

:thumbsup: Totally agree.

Some team will sign him. But his days as a full-time starter are clearly done.

He can still be part of a backfield committee.
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#111 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:18 pm

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Mr B wrote:I don’t see any team over paying for Zeke. Honestly his career is likely over.

:thumbsup: Totally agree.

Some team will sign him. But his days as a full-time starter are clearly done.

He can still be part of a backfield committee.

Carolina, Arizona, Rams and Chicago are good places for him. It's were he belongs.
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#112 » by Mr B » Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:46 am

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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#113 » by Micah Prescott » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:02 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Mr B wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:The correct move is to cut him and honestly some team out there will surely overpay Zeke so it's in his best interests too.

It should probably be viewed as commendable that Zeke wants to stay a Cowboy and to be honest the guy is irrationally hated by fans. Zeke was a great runner early in his career.

I don’t see any team over paying for Zeke. Honestly his career is likely over.

:thumbsup: Totally agree.

You guys are nuts, he's only 27 and just went for 876 yards and 12 TDs splitting carries with Pollard. To put that into perspective Joe Mixon had 814 yards and just 4 TDs on nearly the same amount of carries.

I could see maybe Zeke's agents overvalue him and that causes a sit out. That's about it. Outside of that there are a lot of teams that would scoop him up.
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Post#114 » by Otis Driftwood » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:58 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:You guys are nuts, he's only 27 and just went for 876 yards and 12 TDs splitting carries with Pollard. To put that into perspective Joe Mixon had 814 yards and just 4 TDs on nearly the same amount of carries.

I could see maybe Zeke's agents overvalue him and that causes a sit out. That's about it. Outside of that there are a lot of teams that would scoop him up.


Yep. He can still provide a useful role on a team looking for a 3rd down back who can actually catch as well as block and pick up a few yards here and there. He'll be playing somewhere next season. And for the right price - I would be OK with it being here.
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#115 » by Micah Prescott » Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:50 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:You guys are nuts, he's only 27 and just went for 876 yards and 12 TDs splitting carries with Pollard. To put that into perspective Joe Mixon had 814 yards and just 4 TDs on nearly the same amount of carries.

I could see maybe Zeke's agents overvalue him and that causes a sit out. That's about it. Outside of that there are a lot of teams that would scoop him up.


Yep. He can still provide a useful role on a team looking for a 3rd down back who can actually catch as well as block and pick up a few yards here and there. He'll be playing somewhere next season. And for the right price - I would be OK with it being here.

I would too but going on the comments of his agents evaluating his price I do not think we will get anything reasonable. Agents are greedy and if they think someone else would pay more (likely) then they are going to point Zeke at the $$$.
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Post#116 » by Otis Driftwood » Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:44 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:
Otis Driftwood wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:You guys are nuts, he's only 27 and just went for 876 yards and 12 TDs splitting carries with Pollard. To put that into perspective Joe Mixon had 814 yards and just 4 TDs on nearly the same amount of carries.

I could see maybe Zeke's agents overvalue him and that causes a sit out. That's about it. Outside of that there are a lot of teams that would scoop him up.


Yep. He can still provide a useful role on a team looking for a 3rd down back who can actually catch as well as block and pick up a few yards here and there. He'll be playing somewhere next season. And for the right price - I would be OK with it being here.

I would too but going on the comments of his agents evaluating his price I do not think we will get anything reasonable. Agents are greedy and if they think someone else would pay more (likely) then they are going to point Zeke at the $$$.


And I would neither begrudge Zeke nor anyone playing Pro Football for going after the money... Damar Hamlin being Exhibit A in why.
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#117 » by Mr B » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:38 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Mr B wrote:I don’t see any team over paying for Zeke. Honestly his career is likely over.

:thumbsup: Totally agree.

You guys are nuts, he's only 27 and just went for 876 yards and 12 TDs splitting carries with Pollard. To put that into perspective Joe Mixon had 814 yards and just 4 TDs on nearly the same amount of carries.

I could see maybe Zeke's agents overvalue him and that causes a sit out. That's about it. Outside of that there are a lot of teams that would scoop him up.

If he’s willing to play for less than $3M per season I could see another team scooping him up. But then why would a team be willing to pay (or play) a Zeke who’s clearly lost a step (or two) that amount when they can just draft a RB and pay him MUCH less?

But for the sake of your argument I have a question since you like stats, how many yards per carry did Zeke average this season?
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Post#118 » by Mr B » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:51 pm

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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#119 » by Micah Prescott » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:24 am

Mr B wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote: :thumbsup: Totally agree.

You guys are nuts, he's only 27 and just went for 876 yards and 12 TDs splitting carries with Pollard. To put that into perspective Joe Mixon had 814 yards and just 4 TDs on nearly the same amount of carries.

I could see maybe Zeke's agents overvalue him and that causes a sit out. That's about it. Outside of that there are a lot of teams that would scoop him up.

If he’s willing to play for less than $3M per season I could see another team scooping him up. But then why would a team be willing to pay (or play) a Zeke who’s clearly lost a step (or two) that amount when they can just draft a RB and pay him MUCH less?

But for the sake of your argument I have a question since you like stats, how many yards per carry did Zeke average this season?

3.8 is low yes, but still within range of other starters. Alvin Kamara averaged 4.0 is he done?

Zeke is on the downside, no arguments on that. Can he hit a homerun? Not anymore, that burst is gone. Can he do everything else? Yes he can. And he was very effective at grinding short yardage, IIRC he led the NFL in first down runs this season.

Remember David Johnson? He's still playing.

Adrian Peterson played until he was 36.

But Zeke is done at 27? I don't buy it, unless he is wanting top dollar still which is possible.
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#120 » by Mr B » Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:49 am

Micah Prescott wrote:
Mr B wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:You guys are nuts, he's only 27 and just went for 876 yards and 12 TDs splitting carries with Pollard. To put that into perspective Joe Mixon had 814 yards and just 4 TDs on nearly the same amount of carries.

I could see maybe Zeke's agents overvalue him and that causes a sit out. That's about it. Outside of that there are a lot of teams that would scoop him up.

If he’s willing to play for less than $3M per season I could see another team scooping him up. But then why would a team be willing to pay (or play) a Zeke who’s clearly lost a step (or two) that amount when they can just draft a RB and pay him MUCH less?

But for the sake of your argument I have a question since you like stats, how many yards per carry did Zeke average this season?

3.8 is low yes, but still within range of other starters. Alvin Kamara averaged 4.0 is he done?

Zeke is on the downside, no arguments on that. Can he hit a homerun? Not anymore, that burst is gone. Can he do everything else? Yes he can. And he was very effective at grinding short yardage, IIRC he led the NFL in first down runs this season.

Remember David Johnson? He's still playing.

Adrian Peterson played until he was 36.

But Zeke is done at 27? I don't buy it, unless he is wanting top dollar still which is possible.

Zeke has never been known as a guy that takes care of body during the off season. Adrian Peterson never been known as a guy that gets drunk and is out at the clubs. So yes, he looks done at 27 years old.

Also I wouldn’t pay Alvin Kamara more than $3M per season at this point in his career either.

Honestly speaking I wouldn’t be surprised if the Cowboys let Pollard walk too. First I don’t think the Cowboys want to sign him to a big money long term deal. They do seem willing to franchise him though. If they do franchise him though you have to remember that he’s coming off a broken leg. Will he be ready by training camp? If not then when? Also will he even be the same player when he comes back? Is that worth franchising him?

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