Woj Bomb: Hawks fire McMillan

Brinbe · Post #21 » by **Brinbe** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:33 am

if people were mad at seeing fred chuck i can't even imagine how pissed they'd be at seeing current year trae brick it up and play no defense.

murray's a better bet to lean on but atl aren't ready for that convo yet.

trae's the wrong type of star to bank on.

remember how the asg was played on sunday with non-stop 3s, gimme dimes and zero defense? that's trae's ideal environment.

HumbleRen · Post #22 » by **HumbleRen** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:59 am

Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:Ima be pissed if they get Quinn Snyder. I really want him to coach the Raptors.

Has he ever been out of the 1st round? lol.

Not sure hiring a guy that consistently underachieved and whose team had terrible chemistry is a good idea.

I think Quinn has technically been in more 2nd round series than Nurse has lol.

C_Money · Post #23 » by **C_Money** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:02 am

S.W.A.N wrote:
DemHeavyHands wrote:Should the raps do the same??

No. We not in same timeline of our development curve...

Nurse gets rest of season before any real pressure on him. But it a valid conversation point.

Yeah he’s safe for this season but he’s got 1 year left on his contract after this. If the team isn’t winning next year I doubt he’s getting an extension.

twiggy2 · Post #24 » by **twiggy2** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:08 am

Has a team ever lost an assistant coach mid season to a head coaching vacancy?

Los_29 · Post #25 » by **Los_29** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:11 am

HumbleRen wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:Ima be pissed if they get Quinn Snyder. I really want him to coach the Raptors.

Has he ever been out of the 1st round? lol.

Not sure hiring a guy that consistently underachieved and whose team had terrible chemistry is a good idea.

I think Quinn has technically been in more 2nd round series than Nurse has lol.

He's been coaching for 8 years. lol.

I actually don't think he's a bad coach. He's just more of a regular season coach. Nurse was closer to advancing to the conference finals than Snyder was despite losing two starters (one of whom a top 5 player) and having to play a big man rotation that were on the verge of retirement. I don't think Nurse gets enough credit for what he did in that series. Snyder has never coached like that.

WaltFrazier · Post #26 » by **WaltFrazier** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:27 am

twiggy2 wrote:Has a team ever lost an assistant coach mid season to a head coaching vacancy?

I don't think that particular lightning will strike us twice

NeoDragonKnight · Post #27 » by **NeoDragonKnight** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:39 am

Silas should be next, horrible job in houston. Lots of young talent coming and he doesn't want to develop them. He was freaking starting Bruno Fernando infront of Sengun for crying out loud and only started Sengun when Bruno went down. He also has a stud in Tari Eason that he should be getting as many minutes as he can give him. Like what is he doing, they arent winning anyways why play Eric Gordon 35+ min a night?

Johnny Bball · Post #28 » by **Johnny Bball** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 2:13 am

Do they really think chsnging the coach is going to change their fortunes around? Nate isnt the issue.

HumbleRen · Post #29 » by **HumbleRen** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 2:24 am

Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Has he ever been out of the 1st round? lol.

Not sure hiring a guy that consistently underachieved and whose team had terrible chemistry is a good idea.

I think Quinn has technically been in more 2nd round series than Nurse has lol.

He's been coaching for 8 years. lol.

I actually don't think he's a bad coach. He's just more of a regular season coach. Nurse was closer to advancing to the conference finals than Snyder was despite losing two starters (one of whom a top 5 player) and having to play a big man rotation that were on the verge of retirement. I don't think Nurse gets enough credit for what he did in that series. Snyder has never coached like that.

Nurse still had a top 5 player at the end of the day.

Snyder didn’t. That’s the difference.

Nurse did a great job on the Celtics series but he still lost to a weaker team. Raptors should of won that series but they didn’t.

Outside of his championship year, the ONLY playoff series win he has under his belt is the Brooklyn Nets who didn’t play KD or Kyrie. Hardly impressive in my books. I think Quinn is a properly rated coach and Nurse is a vastly overrated coach.

blastttOFF · Post #30 » by **blastttOFF** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 2:24 am

Why’d they wait until the last day before the all star break ends?

will · Post #31 » by **will** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 2:29 am

Hardly a bomb.
More like a slow release fart.

Actually surprised it has taken this long for the Hawks to give McMillan the sack.

Another one for Trae Young.

Post #32 » by **HiJiNX** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:28 am

Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Has he ever been out of the 1st round? lol.

Not sure hiring a guy that consistently underachieved and whose team had terrible chemistry is a good idea.

I think Quinn has technically been in more 2nd round series than Nurse has lol.

He's been coaching for 8 years. lol.

I actually don't think he's a bad coach. He's just more of a regular season coach. Nurse was closer to advancing to the conference finals than Snyder was despite losing two starters (one of whom a top 5 player) and having to play a big man rotation that were on the verge of retirement. I don't think Nurse gets enough credit for what he did in that series. Snyder has never coached like that.

If we had won that series that would be my favourite Raptors series ever given how intense and well coached it was but because we lost it I’m forever bitter haha.

I really think we repeat had the pandemic not happened.

kalel123 · Post #33 » by **kalel123** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:28 am

My thing with Quinn Snyder rumor is... it wasn't so long ago he got to get away from the Mitchell/Gobert fiasco. And now he'd willingly walk into another one where Young/Murray seem to be even a bigger headache in a way?

bape_lovers · Post #34 » by **bape_lovers** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:39 am

Didn’t the jazz blew a 3-1 lead?

HumbleRen wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
I think Quinn has technically been in more 2nd round series than Nurse has lol.

He's been coaching for 8 years. lol.

I actually don't think he's a bad coach. He's just more of a regular season coach. Nurse was closer to advancing to the conference finals than Snyder was despite losing two starters (one of whom a top 5 player) and having to play a big man rotation that were on the verge of retirement. I don't think Nurse gets enough credit for what he did in that series. Snyder has never coached like that.

Nurse still had a top 5 player at the end of the day.

Snyder didn’t. That’s the difference.

Nurse did a great job on the Celtics series but he still lost to a weaker team. Raptors should of won that series but they didn’t.

Outside of his championship year, the ONLY playoff series win he has under his belt is the Brooklyn Nets who didn’t play KD or Kyrie. Hardly impressive in my books. I think Quinn is a properly rated coach and Nurse is a vastly overrated coach.

dTox · Post #35 » by **dTox** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:41 am

Trae seems like the least fun player to coach or play with

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dTox · Post #36 » by **dTox** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:42 am

bape_lovers wrote:Didn’t the jazz blew a 3-1 lead?

HumbleRen wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
He's been coaching for 8 years. lol.

I actually don't think he's a bad coach. He's just more of a regular season coach. Nurse was closer to advancing to the conference finals than Snyder was despite losing two starters (one of whom a top 5 player) and having to play a big man rotation that were on the verge of retirement. I don't think Nurse gets enough credit for what he did in that series. Snyder has never coached like that.

Nurse still had a top 5 player at the end of the day.

Snyder didn’t. That’s the difference.

Nurse did a great job on the Celtics series but he still lost to a weaker team. Raptors should of won that series but they didn’t.

Outside of his championship year, the ONLY playoff series win he has under his belt is the Brooklyn Nets who didn’t play KD or Kyrie. Hardly impressive in my books. I think Quinn is a properly rated coach and Nurse is a vastly overrated coach.

Lost the series to a Kawhi-less Clippers

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bape_lovers · Post #37 » by **bape_lovers** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:44 am

Forgot that as well

dTox wrote:
bape_lovers wrote:Didn’t the jazz blew a 3-1 lead?

HumbleRen wrote:
Nurse still had a top 5 player at the end of the day.

Snyder didn’t. That’s the difference.

Nurse did a great job on the Celtics series but he still lost to a weaker team. Raptors should of won that series but they didn’t.

Outside of his championship year, the ONLY playoff series win he has under his belt is the Brooklyn Nets who didn’t play KD or Kyrie. Hardly impressive in my books. I think Quinn is a properly rated coach and Nurse is a vastly overrated coach.
Lost the series to a Kawhi-less Clippers

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HumbleRen · Post #38 » by **HumbleRen** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:57 am

bape_lovers wrote:Didn’t the jazz blew a 3-1 lead?

HumbleRen wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
He's been coaching for 8 years. lol.

I actually don't think he's a bad coach. He's just more of a regular season coach. Nurse was closer to advancing to the conference finals than Snyder was despite losing two starters (one of whom a top 5 player) and having to play a big man rotation that were on the verge of retirement. I don't think Nurse gets enough credit for what he did in that series. Snyder has never coached like that.

Nurse still had a top 5 player at the end of the day.

Snyder didn’t. That’s the difference.

Nurse did a great job on the Celtics series but he still lost to a weaker team. Raptors should of won that series but they didn’t.

Outside of his championship year, the ONLY playoff series win he has under his belt is the Brooklyn Nets who didn’t play KD or Kyrie. Hardly impressive in my books. I think Quinn is a properly rated coach and Nurse is a vastly overrated coach.

Yep but you’re missing my point lol.

Outside of the championship core, Nurse has done nothing of note.

Sometimes you just need a new voice and I would rather Quinn be that one if they were to fire Nurse.

Pointgod · Post #39 » by **Pointgod** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:58 am

aminiaturebuddha wrote:
Pointgod wrote:Sucks but not surprising. Team has severely underperformed under McMillan

Maybe. Or maybe they just overperformed that year that they switched coaches to McMillan and went on that second half run that took them to the Conference Finals. That really seems to be the outlier here. It seems like they should be better, but maybe Trae is just a hard guy to build around.

Very fair points. Offensively the Hawks should be better than 14th in the league in offensive rating considering the firepower that they have. Team should be top 10, that’s a coaching issue.

Merit · Post #40 » by **Merit** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:03 am

Pointgod wrote:
aminiaturebuddha wrote:
Pointgod wrote:Sucks but not surprising. Team has severely underperformed under McMillan

Maybe. Or maybe they just overperformed that year that they switched coaches to McMillan and went on that second half run that took them to the Conference Finals. That really seems to be the outlier here. It seems like they should be better, but maybe Trae is just a hard guy to build around.

Very fair points. Offensively the Hawks should be better than 14th in the league in offensive rating considering the firepower that they have. Team should be top 10, that’s a coaching issue.

Yeah my thought was always that Nate found a way to improve his guards and make them more complete players, especially with him being a guard himself and an excellent defender. Too bad Trae doesn't defend. I think he's lightning fast but I feel his body would probably break down were he to actually play defense.

I wonder if he'd ever come to the Raps as an assistant? That would be fun.