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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#561 » by DreamTeam09 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:52 am

He's still my fav player. The fact that he upped his FT% is legit
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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#562 » by WaltFrazier » Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:58 am

hype_2004 wrote:Why are we even having a discussion on a token wasteman from Rexdale? This guy's is eating up space that can be used for some useful bench depth. I don't ever want to see this guy even on garbage minutes. The definition of poor man's Shawn Livingston and he's not even half of a player of an after injury Livingston. Dowtin should get the majority of his minutes even Weiskamp since he can shoot and Harper since he is good rebounder, what abilities does Banton posses other than being a "tall" PG who can't break down a defense?


I'm not so harsh on Banton, but I and 1'd this post for the Dowtin part. Dowtin is superior to Banton and Flynn both and should be given more chances to show it
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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#563 » by Merit » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:12 am

hype_2004 wrote:Why are we even having a discussion on a token wasteman from Rexdale? This guy's is eating up space that can be used for some useful bench depth. I don't ever want to see this guy even on garbage minutes. The definition of poor man's Shawn Livingston and he's not even half of a player of an after injury Livingston. Dowtin should get the majority of his minutes even Weiskamp since he can shoot and Harper since he is good rebounder, what abilities does Banton posses other than being a "tall" PG who can't break down a defense?


I happen to think that Delano is still developing and is better suited to playing more in the g-league.

I know that a Delano/Delon archetype point guard is literally what this team needs. Think Malcolm Brogdon or Donte DiVincenzo.
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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#564 » by hype_2004 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:23 am

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hype_2004 wrote:Why are we even having a discussion on a token wasteman from Rexdale? This guy's is eating up space that can be used for some useful bench depth. I don't ever want to see this guy even on garbage minutes. The definition of poor man's Shawn Livingston and he's not even half of a player of an after injury Livingston. Dowtin should get the majority of his minutes even Weiskamp since he can shoot and Harper since he is good rebounder, what abilities does Banton posses other than being a "tall" PG who can't break down a defense?


I happen to think that Delano is still developing and is better suited to playing more in the g-league.

I know that a Delano/Delon archetype point guard is literally what this team needs. Think Malcolm Brogdon or Donte DiVincenzo.


He can't shoot, he can't dribble penetrate and commits turnover on his rate despite his extremely low usage. He belongs in the G league and needs to prove that he can play even at that level. He's occupying space on the bench nothing more.
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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#565 » by Morse Code » Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:11 am

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hype_2004 wrote:Why are we even having a discussion on a token wasteman from Rexdale? This guy's is eating up space that can be used for some useful bench depth. I don't ever want to see this guy even on garbage minutes. The definition of poor man's Shawn Livingston and he's not even half of a player of an after injury Livingston. Dowtin should get the majority of his minutes even Weiskamp since he can shoot and Harper since he is good rebounder, what abilities does Banton posses other than being a "tall" PG who can't break down a defense?


I happen to think that Delano is still developing and is better suited to playing more in the g-league.

I know that a Delano/Delon archetype point guard is literally what this team needs. Think Malcolm Brogdon or Donte DiVincenzo.

Lonzo is the perfect PG for us imo
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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#566 » by Thaddy » Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:14 am

DreamTeam09 wrote:He's still my fav player. The fact that he upped his FT% is legit

Stats are kind of down across the board otherwise though including defense. It looks like he has a low motor and isn't up to the NBA athletic standard to be effective. If you put Anthony Black in his place you see a lot more explosiveness and finishing, while seeing similar shooting.
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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#567 » by dagger » Wed Feb 22, 2023 2:11 pm

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hype_2004 wrote:Why are we even having a discussion on a token wasteman from Rexdale? This guy's is eating up space that can be used for some useful bench depth. I don't ever want to see this guy even on garbage minutes. The definition of poor man's Shawn Livingston and he's not even half of a player of an after injury Livingston. Dowtin should get the majority of his minutes even Weiskamp since he can shoot and Harper since he is good rebounder, what abilities does Banton posses other than being a "tall" PG who can't break down a defense?


I'm not so harsh on Banton, but I and 1'd this post for the Dowtin part. Dowtin is superior to Banton and Flynn both and should be given more chances to show it

Flynn seems to be stabilizing a bit, so let’s see how he does over the last quarter of the season


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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#568 » by alpha » Wed Feb 22, 2023 2:57 pm

Said at the very beginning of his tenure that he'd be a 9th or 10th man at best for the majority of his career. Was given all sorts of grief. The fact that he's Canadian, is why he's still here. Is that really enough to justify a spot on the team?
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Post#569 » by HumbleRen » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:07 pm

Lol at comparing Dalano to a Malcolm Brogdon or a Donte

Dalano will be out of the league within 2 years. No hate to the guy but he’s a late 2nd round pick, not sure what people expected out of him.
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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#570 » by DelAbbot » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:11 pm

HumbleRen wrote:Lol at comparing Dalano to a Malcolm Brogdon or a Donte

Dalano will be out of the league within 2 years. No hate to the guy but he’s a late 2nd round pick, not sure what people expected out of him.


expectations were as high as a top 10 pick

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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#571 » by deck » Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:39 pm

hype_2004 wrote:
Merit wrote:
hype_2004 wrote:Why are we even having a discussion on a token wasteman from Rexdale? This guy's is eating up space that can be used for some useful bench depth. I don't ever want to see this guy even on garbage minutes. The definition of poor man's Shawn Livingston and he's not even half of a player of an after injury Livingston. Dowtin should get the majority of his minutes even Weiskamp since he can shoot and Harper since he is good rebounder, what abilities does Banton posses other than being a "tall" PG who can't break down a defense?


I happen to think that Delano is still developing and is better suited to playing more in the g-league.

I know that a Delano/Delon archetype point guard is literally what this team needs. Think Malcolm Brogdon or Donte DiVincenzo.


He can't shoot, he can't dribble penetrate and commits turnover on his rate despite his extremely low usage. He belongs in the G league and needs to prove that he can play even at that level. He's occupying space on the bench nothing more.


He demonstrated that last year. Free throw % and ast / turnover were still issues, but he put up strong numbers in the G-League in 2021/2022. His numbers are down this year which is discouraging, but to suggest he hasn't demonstrated he can play at the G-League level is not accurate.

2021 / 2022: 33.6 MIN / 24.5 PTS / 51.1% FG / 39.3% 3PT / 54.6% FT / 8.9 REB / 5.9 AST / 2.9 TOV
2022 / 2023: 33.0 MIN / 22.1 PTS / 45.9% FG / 30.5% 3PT / 85.2% FT / 7.0 REB / 4.6 AST / 3.3 TOV

I still have hope for Banton as a rotation / end of bench player.

I was discouraged in a recent NBA game where he got minutes though. He did not look engaged or focused. There was a specific play against the Magic where he walked back slowly on defence and Nurse or someone had to yell at him because the Magic pushed it quickly after an inbound. It wasn't a good look.

It always surprises me when a player does get minutes and an opportunity that they are not 100% locked in. I like Dowtin for this, cause even though he kind of looks insane, when he plays, he is zeroed in.
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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#572 » by ConSarnit » Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:45 pm

dagger wrote:
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hype_2004 wrote:Why are we even having a discussion on a token wasteman from Rexdale? This guy's is eating up space that can be used for some useful bench depth. I don't ever want to see this guy even on garbage minutes. The definition of poor man's Shawn Livingston and he's not even half of a player of an after injury Livingston. Dowtin should get the majority of his minutes even Weiskamp since he can shoot and Harper since he is good rebounder, what abilities does Banton posses other than being a "tall" PG who can't break down a defense?


I'm not so harsh on Banton, but I and 1'd this post for the Dowtin part. Dowtin is superior to Banton and Flynn both and should be given more chances to show it

Flynn seems to be stabilizing a bit, so let’s see how he does over the last quarter of the season


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Is there anything to back this up? Flynn in February (7 games):

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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#573 » by God Squad » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:11 pm

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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#574 » by DreamTeam09 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:28 pm

alpha wrote:Said at the very beginning of his tenure that he'd be a 9th or 10th man at best for the majority of his career. Was given all sorts of grief. The fact that he's Canadian, is why he's still here. Is that really enough to justify a spot on the team?


He's here cuz 6'7-6'9 players who can function as guards are a commodity in the NBA.
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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#575 » by DreamTeam09 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:31 pm

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hype_2004 wrote:Why are we even having a discussion on a token wasteman from Rexdale? This guy's is eating up space that can be used for some useful bench depth. I don't ever want to see this guy even on garbage minutes. The definition of poor man's Shawn Livingston and he's not even half of a player of an after injury Livingston. Dowtin should get the majority of his minutes even Weiskamp since he can shoot and Harper since he is good rebounder, what abilities does Banton posses other than being a "tall" PG who can't break down a defense?


I'm not so harsh on Banton, but I and 1'd this post for the Dowtin part. Dowtin is superior to Banton and Flynn both and should be given more chances to show it


He must be from whatever block is beefing with the Rec lol
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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#576 » by hype_2004 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:33 pm

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Merit wrote:
I happen to think that Delano is still developing and is better suited to playing more in the g-league.

I know that a Delano/Delon archetype point guard is literally what this team needs. Think Malcolm Brogdon or Donte DiVincenzo.


He can't shoot, he can't dribble penetrate and commits turnover on his rate despite his extremely low usage. He belongs in the G league and needs to prove that he can play even at that level. He's occupying space on the bench nothing more.


He demonstrated that last year. Free throw % and ast / turnover were still issues, but he put up strong numbers in the G-League in 2021/2022. His numbers are down this year which is discouraging, but to suggest he hasn't demonstrated he can play at the G-League level is not accurate.

2021 / 2022: 33.6 MIN / 24.5 PTS / 51.1% FG / 39.3% 3PT / 54.6% FT / 8.9 REB / 5.9 AST / 2.9 TOV
2022 / 2023: 33.0 MIN / 22.1 PTS / 45.9% FG / 30.5% 3PT / 85.2% FT / 7.0 REB / 4.6 AST / 3.3 TOV

I still have hope for Banton as a rotation / end of bench player.

I was discouraged in a recent NBA game where he got minutes though. He did not look engaged or focused. There was a specific play against the Magic where he walked back slowly on defence and Nurse or someone had to yell at him because the Magic pushed it quickly after an inbound. It wasn't a good look.

It always surprises me when a player does get minutes and an opportunity that they are not 100% locked in. I like Dowtin for this, cause even though he kind of looks insane, when he plays, he is zeroed in.


As far as I'm concerned the writing is on the wall for this guy and he knows it. But it's unfathomable how a guy who is fighting for an NBA job, remains non chalant and lackadaisical on the court. I know he sucks, but exert some effort even if you're overmatched. This guy has no fight in him and prefer to let others decide his fate.
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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#577 » by hype_2004 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:35 pm

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alpha wrote:Said at the very beginning of his tenure that he'd be a 9th or 10th man at best for the majority of his career. Was given all sorts of grief. The fact that he's Canadian, is why he's still here. Is that really enough to justify a spot on the team?


He's here cuz 6'7-6'9 players who can function as guards are a commodity in the NBA.


He won't be here long, too many guys coming up with the same size but far more skilled than this guy.
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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#578 » by mtcan » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:40 pm

I'm still waiting on the front office's beliefs that they can turn any 6'7-6'9 guys into the next Pascal Siakam.

Show me that you can turn guys who can't shoot into capable 35%+ 3 point shooters.
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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#579 » by ItsDanger » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:42 pm

Problem with NBA prospects is that you have limited time. Many have 1 year or less. You're lucky if you get 2 years to develop and show that you deserve that 2nd contract. New guys are coming in every year increasing competition. With the limited roster size, you need to be ready to grab a roster spot right away. Other sports like MLB or NHL have better minor league support systems which allow for players to develop in time.

If you're not an elite prospect, you should spend 4 years in college. Or grab that quick easy money and try and make it last. But as for the team, you need to cut bait if they don't show something on the court. This isn't NBA college, its a business. Would you re-sign Banton at this point? Or use his spot for another college player with promise? Keep in mind, this dude will be 24 in no time and still can't shoot and coming off horrible G league numbers.
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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#580 » by hype_2004 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:43 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
hype_2004 wrote:Why are we even having a discussion on a token wasteman from Rexdale? This guy's is eating up space that can be used for some useful bench depth. I don't ever want to see this guy even on garbage minutes. The definition of poor man's Shawn Livingston and he's not even half of a player of an after injury Livingston. Dowtin should get the majority of his minutes even Weiskamp since he can shoot and Harper since he is good rebounder, what abilities does Banton posses other than being a "tall" PG who can't break down a defense?


I'm not so harsh on Banton, but I and 1'd this post for the Dowtin part. Dowtin is superior to Banton and Flynn both and should be given more chances to show it


He must be from whatever block is beefing with the Rec lol


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