Brandon Miller - Alabama

[tmorgan]

Dude is ballin and may end up in jail on some serious chargers. this is the most mamba mentality thing ive ever seen, kobe would be proud

He’s been cleared. Free man dropping 40. Got that dog in him

He’s free of legal charges, but certainly not free of many questions from the public to follow. That’s why it’s impressive. Surely a lot of youngsters would run from this kind of pressure, or at least have difficulties.

It’s gonna make for a very interesting draft process. I’m intrigued and very wary at the same time.

[SeattleJazzFan]

That is his lawyers statement. He got a text to bring the weapon at 1:40 AM and brought it. That alone should warrant suspension. If he wasnt the teams star he would of been booted with the others.

The other report not from his lawyer actually said the text said "I need my joint a n***** rl just got fakin". Which if true means he 100% should of known. Of course in the court of law he might be able to say he didnt read it since he didnt reply or something.

Yeah, and his lawyer’s statement lines up with the fact the police and DA’s office didn’t charge him with anything. Must not be too far-fetched.

[JMAC3]

Miller showed off the entire arsenal in this game (for those who foolishly think he's just a 3 and D). Again, just from a basketball perspective, he's #3 in this draft pretty clearly IMO.

Seeing a lot of he is #3 after this game. Why not 2nd? This is what I have been saying that this Scoot is a foregone conclusion at #2 is just groupthink IMO. Scoot Henderson is an undersized shoot first guard who probably will be a defensive liability at the next level. On top of that, his shooting overall is probably neutral at best.

Number of players in the last 10 years drafted top 4 that were under 6-4? 1 Player. Ja Morant.

Give me the 6-9 guy that is dropping 40 over him.

[JMAC3]

Him hitting game tying shots in the last 4 second of regulation and then game winning shot with under 1 second in OT. I think we can lay to rest that Jabari Smith was a better prospect. I feel like you could give Jabari 10 chances at that and he might tie the game 1 time let alone do it twice in a 5 min span.

[NYPiston]

Him hitting game tying shots in the last 4 second of regulation and then game winning shot with under 1 second in OT. I think we can lay to rest that Jabari Smith was a better prospect. I feel like you could give Jabari 10 chances at that and he might tie the game 1 time let alone do it twice in a 5 min span.

There's no way Jabari makes those plays in the clutch driving to the rim or hardly ever for that matter. This is what separates the two for me, Miller simply has more offensive versatility and star potential.

[The-Power]

The text may or may not of been seen.

But that's a crucial question for the case. You reached your conclusions based on your assumption that he knew what was about to happen, and yet you admit now that he may not have read the text in question before he arrived at the scene. So I suggest we all let this play out a bit more before we make any definite statements about someone's culpability based on clearly insufficient information at this point.

If he delivered a gun to his friend knowing that the friend intended to use it, he clearly bears responsibility and is a POS. To which extent he can be legally charged is a different question, but it clearly warrants a response from the school at the very least and should be a red flag for NBA teams. If the statement of the lawyer holds true, it's not his fault even if he potentially could have shown better judgement at some points.

Since we don't know for sure either way and there's also a chance that it's something in-between the two extremes, it's better for us – who only have very fragmented second-hand information – to not jump to any conclusions (both ways).

I say may or may not because we cant prove it and likely never will. You can have your phone set up to show text on your dash or watch and it wont show as read. If he replied it would of been mentioned in cou

Yes, you say ‘may or may not’ because he may or may not have read the text. That's what my post was about. You don't know. I don't know. We don't know. Therefore, we shouldn't come up with definite conclusions based on the assumption that he did read it.

Anyway, back to sports. This was an incredible game when faced with adversity. I've been thinking about it before and I may now finally be ready to put him in the same tier as Scoot. He's been that good and that consistent, with a physical and skill profile that every coach loves.

[MemphisX]

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[clyde21]

[b]lo.

I don't think you know the full story tbh.

The lawyer put out a statement, which I doubt directly goes against the text evidence.

Supposedly Miller didn't even know the gun was in the car, nor did he touch it. He was already on the way to pick them up when that text was sent. So he was driving, doesn't even sound like we know if he saw the text before arriving on scene.

That is clearly not the same as giving a known drunk person their keys.

That is probably more closely they ask for their jacket and you assume they are riding with a friend. Then you find out the keys were in the pocket of the jacket, they end up driving and you are now going to jail.

That is Millers defense lawyers statement. Of course they will say he didnt know and didnt see the text. I'm sure his buddies have his back talking to police as well figuring hes famous and going to be rich thats a ally worth keeping.

You know the company you keep carries guns around. Its not some hidden thing with a group of 20 year old teammates. Not sure how anyone can believe that as true.

The text may or may not of been seen. Smart phones are connected to watches and dash boards that will show the text and not show it as read. We really dont know.

Hes not being charged he may of not commited a crime in Alabama. That said he should still be suspended for some amount of games. A non star would be kicked off the team for being involved in this. It still brings up questions on his character that may or may not effect draft stock we shall see.

yall need to stop.

how many NBA players do you think have friends that carry around guns?

i know people love to pearl clutch online but let's get real here.

[clyde21]

and the same people that put that police report together and accumulated all the evidence decided there wasn't enough to charge the kid with

weird how some of you are unwilling to understand this concept.

and yes, it's actually very normal stuff. A gun is someone's property and if Miles was asking for it back I certainly wouldn't want someone else's gun on me that I don't need or want...so yea I'd take it back to them. im not sure how or why that's weird to you.

Many people here are talking about Alabama and how they are doing nothing about their star athlete being involved in a murder. That is part of the picture here. Everyone understands there may not be enough evidence to charge Miller. What they don't understand is how Alabama is just choosing to let this slide.

We are not privy to the texts but you were the one who kept saying "maybe he just asked for his stuff" while the police report very specifically mentions he asked for his gun. You couldn't be bothered to read 30 seconds of an article (or pay attention to something mentioned numerous times in this thread) yet you kept spouting off conjecture. I really don't know why I am wasting my time with you. It absolutely is not worth it.

The article on espn now says he was already on his way to pick the guy up and the gun was already in the car. Also says Brandon wasn’t involved in the collection of the gun.

"Brandon never left his vehicle and was not involved in the collection of the weapon," said Byrne, who added: "Darius had been asking Brandon to come pick him up for close to an hour. Brandon was already on his way to pick Darius up when he received the text message for him that was reported yesterday."

ofc media vultures would leave that last part of it out.

again, there is a reason why he wasn't even arrested, let alone charged. Instead of giving this kid the benefit of the doubt and trusting the investigation they decided to kick and scream on Twitter because that's what people do these days.

[MemphisX]

It was very disgusting behavior by some dudes with big platforms. Some are the usual suspects any time these elements are involved with the NBA and are expected. However, some other media types were eyebrow-raising but it is not shocking because I have always said that a lot of these dudes that cover the NBA for a living do not like NBA players at all.

[reanimator]

Scoot Henderson is an undersized shoot first guard who probably will be a defensive liability at the next level. On top of that, his shooting overall is probably neutral at best.

Number of players in the last 10 years drafted top 4 that were under 6-4? 1 Player. Ja Morant.

Huh? One of his biggest strengths is his ability to control tempo and blend playmaking/shotmaking with smart decision making. He isn't Colin Sexton.

Guys like Darius Garland, Trae Young, DeAron Fox, and Dame all went right outside your arbitrary cutoff of #4 and all would probably be the 2nd best prospect in this draft if Scoot wasnt in it.

Watch on YouTube

Mostly offball and transition scoring in regulation but towards the end and in OT you started seeing drives and 1 dribble pull ups off ballscreens. He hasn't graded out well as a PnR handler to this point so would be a welcomed addition to his game if it carries over to the remaining schedule.

[clyde21]

It was very disgusting behavior by some dudes with big platforms. Some are the usual suspects any time these elements are involved with the NBA and are expected. However, some other media types were eyebrow-raising but it is not shocking because I have always said that a lot of these dudes that cover the NBA for a living do not like NBA players at all.

buncha perma-virtue signaling losers always going for the emotional response first. a 20 yr old kid be damned.

[Saints14]

Well god damn. Regardless of what truly happened that night, that was a badass performance

[JMAC3]

Scoot Henderson is an undersized shoot first guard who probably will be a defensive liability at the next level. On top of that, his shooting overall is probably neutral at best.

Number of players in the last 10 years drafted top 4 that were under 6-4? 1 Player. Ja Morant.

Huh? One of his biggest strengths is his ability to control tempo and blend playmaking/shotmaking with smart decision making. He isn't Colin Sexton.

Guys like Darius Garland, Trae Young, DeAron Fox, and Dame all went right outside your arbitrary cutoff of #4 and all would probably be the 2nd best prospect in this draft if Scoot wasnt in it.

Yeah I think you missed my point. I am not saying Scoot is a bad player. Just that precedent says guys his size don't go in the top 4. There is this sentiment that Scoot would be the #1 pick in the draft without Wemby and still be a can't miss prospect.

Is he a better prospect than Fox, Dame, Garland, Young? Is he the best sub 6-4 prospect of the last 10 years?

[reanimator]

Huh? One of his biggest strengths is his ability to control tempo and blend playmaking/shotmaking with smart decision making. He isn't Colin Sexton.

Guys like Darius Garland, Trae Young, DeAron Fox, and Dame all went right outside your arbitrary cutoff of #4 and all would probably be the 2nd best prospect in this draft if Scoot wasnt in it.

Yeah I think you missed my point. I am not saying Scoot is a bad player. Just that precedent says guys his size don't go in the top 4. There is this sentiment that Scoot would be the #1 pick in the draft without Wemby and still be a can't miss prospect.

Is he a better prospect than Fox, Dame, Garland, Young? Is he the best sub 6-4 prospect of the last 10 years?

My point was that its an arbitrary cut off and the past 10 years show there are quite a few guys who should have gone higher sub 6'4. I think Scoot is every bit as good as those list of guys btw.

Does Scoot's iffy 3 pt shooting drop him in the same tier as Miller who is 2 years older and has questionable onball ability? I'd say no personally but I see this gaining traction with some. If the argument is that Miller fits more teams due to ease of integrating his skillset and has arguably the highest floor in the draft then by all means I agree but to call Scoot an undersized shooting guard diminishes a lot of what he does well.

[Saints14]

Huh? One of his biggest strengths is his ability to control tempo and blend playmaking/shotmaking with smart decision making. He isn't Colin Sexton.

Guys like Darius Garland, Trae Young, DeAron Fox, and Dame all went right outside your arbitrary cutoff of #4 and all would probably be the 2nd best prospect in this draft if Scoot wasnt in it.

Yeah I think you missed my point. I am not saying Scoot is a bad player. Just that precedent says guys his size don't go in the top 4. There is this sentiment that Scoot would be the #1 pick in the draft without Wemby and still be a can't miss prospect.

Is he a better prospect than Fox, Dame, Garland, Young? Is he the best sub 6-4 prospect of the last 10 years?

Scoot is definitely a better prospect than those guys, they all had major question marks at the time they were drafted.

Fox: Shooting
Dame: Came from a mid-major school
Garland: Played only like one game in college
Young: Defense and scalability on offense

[NYPiston]

Yeah I think you missed my point. I am not saying Scoot is a bad player. Just that precedent says guys his size don't go in the top 4. There is this sentiment that Scoot would be the #1 pick in the draft without Wemby and still be a can't miss prospect.

Is he a better prospect than Fox, Dame, Garland, Young? Is he the best sub 6-4 prospect of the last 10 years?

Yes, and yes.

[SeattleJazzFan]

Scoot Henderson is an undersized shoot first guard who probably will be a defensive liability at the next level. On top of that, his shooting overall is probably neutral at best.

Number of players in the last 10 years drafted top 4 that were under 6-4? 1 Player. Ja Morant.

Huh? One of his biggest strengths is his ability to control tempo and blend playmaking/shotmaking with smart decision making. He isn't Colin Sexton.

Guys like Darius Garland, Trae Young, DeAron Fox, and Dame all went right outside your arbitrary cutoff of #4 and all would probably be the 2nd best prospect in this draft if Scoot wasnt in it.

Watch on YouTube

Mostly offball and transition scoring in regulation but towards the end and in OT you started seeing drives and 1 dribble pull ups off ballscreens. He hasn't graded out well as a PnR handler to this point so would be a welcomed addition to his game if it carries over to the remaining schedule.

he made 14 FGs - 8 of them were him creating his own shot off the bounce in the half court.

[reanimator]

Huh? One of his biggest strengths is his ability to control tempo and blend playmaking/shotmaking with smart decision making. He isn't Colin Sexton.

Guys like Darius Garland, Trae Young, DeAron Fox, and Dame all went right outside your arbitrary cutoff of #4 and all would probably be the 2nd best prospect in this draft if Scoot wasnt in it.

Watch on YouTube

Mostly offball and transition scoring in regulation but towards the end and in OT you started seeing drives and 1 dribble pull ups off ballscreens. He hasn't graded out well as a PnR handler to this point so would be a welcomed addition to his game if it carries over to the remaining schedule.

he made 14 FGs - 8 of them were him creating his own shot off the bounce in the half court.

:31 fouled driving in transition
1:06 catch and shoot 3
1:14 catch and shoot 3
1:25 transition lob finish
1:30 transition drive into dunk
2:02 catch and shoot 3
2:35 catch and shoot 3
2:42 transition layup
2:48 3 pull up off ball screen
3:12 fouled on transition 3
3:30 fouled on drive
3:55 1 dribble pull up off DHO
4:16 layup off a drive

I count 10 offball/transition plays and 3 self creation in regulation

OT
4:45 layup off a drive
5:10 floater off a ball screen
5:25 layup off a drive

so 10 to 6 is my count. If you remove the plays he got the line (not sure why), its 9 to 5 with the bulk in OT.

[jman3134]

It was very disgusting behavior by some dudes with big platforms. Some are the usual suspects any time these elements are involved with the NBA and are expected. However, some other media types were eyebrow-raising but it is not shocking because I have always said that a lot of these dudes that cover the NBA for a living do not like NBA players at all.

They should be "forced to apologize" publicly if the information put forth by the defense attorneys is correct (obviously I'm being glib here bc I don't believe in lip service). It seems that that is the case, as he isn't being charged. Just amazing that "journalists" published a hit piece on a 20 yr old before all the information is/was known.