(Please Lock Thread) The LeBron James - 22-23 NBA Season Thread -All-Time Scoring Leader! (Part 2)

[ardee]

3.5 games outside the sixth spot.

22 games left... I wonder if they think they can go like 16-6 and try and avoid the play-in altogether.

[Homer38]

3.5 games outside the sixth spot.

22 games left... I wonder if they think they can go like 16-6 and try and avoid the play-in altogether.

big game in Dallas on sunday....

[MyUniBroDavis]

So far so good. I still think they need to upgrade DLo spot in the offseason and add one more solid wing to be a top tier contender

Wait what’s wrong with DLO lol he’s a pretty good starting guard

Bad defensively and not good enough offensively(45% TS in the playoffs)

Bro has played 2 series in his career lol

The defense sucks but honestly doesn’t seem horribly bad at least watching, seems more below average. Offensively good passer that’s maybe underutilized in that regard, and a good shooter. That’s a solid starting guard I think

[MisterHibachi]

Mo Bamba 10 points 13 rebounds 2/4 from 3 in 22 minutes. That's a good back up centre

[Mos_Heat]

Wait what’s wrong with DLO lol he’s a pretty good starting guard

Bad defensively and not good enough offensively(45% TS in the playoffs)

Bro has played 2 series in his career lol

The defense sucks but honestly doesn’t seem horribly bad at least watching, seems more below average. Offensively good passer that’s maybe underutilized in that regard, and a good shooter. That’s a solid starting guard I think

Ehh, his reg season career TS isn't lights out either. Maybe he's a solid guard, somewhere in the top 20-25 at his position. But with aging Lebron they would need more than that

[Colbinii]

Isn't it nice when LeBron can play relatively poorly and the team can win?
For reference, LeBron posted an abysmal 7.3 Game Score last night. This is the lowest total of this season.
The last time LeBron won a game with a Game Score this low was in 2018, 1/18/2018 [I am from USA, sorry for the weird date] against the Orlando Magic.

[thebigbird]

We're famous because of Gregoire
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2267491&start=320#p104414614

Think they got upset that we laughed at their analytics (ppg, fg%, apg)

I feel left out

[homecourtloss]

We're famous because of Gregoire
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2267491&start=320#p104414614

Think they got upset that we laughed at their analytics (ppg, fg%, apg)

I feel left out

It’s just too funny.

[rk2023]

We're famous because of Gregoire
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2267491&start=320#p104414614

Think they got upset that we laughed at their analytics (ppg, fg%, apg)

I think he took note of all the people quoting / +1ing the quotes to his "nut-hugger" & "LeChoke" language & box score Tableau analytics. He definitely forgot a handful of people or so

[Homer38]

I did not watch much the lakers lately because the games are too late for me but is Darvin Ham better since Westbrook is gone?(like better rotation,less 3 guards lineup and thing like that)

[Colbinii]

I did not watch much the lakers lately because the games are too late for me but is Darvin Ham better since Westbrook is gone?(like better rotation,less 3 guards lineup and thing like that)

Most coaches are better when fielded with an NBA roster featuring shooting and defense rather than running out end-of-bench tier players and G-League minions

[trickshot]

The good and bad news is nearly every opponent in the next week is a direct rival for the play-in spot so each win is like 1.25, 1.5ish closer to catching each team they give an L. You couldn't pick a better schedule to go on a win streak. That's however also the bad news for every game dropped. Puts in perspective just how much they sucked that they were already falling out of the play-in. Also WB's contract bringing back 3 roleplayers with infinitely better fit makes that trade all the more painful to think about.

[homecourtloss]

Westbrook worked with one of LeBron or AD. Not both.

This year, Westbrook + AD worked on offense but not on defense. Westbrook + LeBron was actually one of the best duos in the NBA after AD’s injury but there were just too many other holes. The Lakers should have started Westbrook with LeBron after AD’s injury. They wound up getting into 1st quarter deficits and then came back with the duo.

In the upcoming weeks, we’re likely to hear a lot about Westbrook on the Clips, and possibly some “how they make it work while LeBron didn’t,” etc., so here are some numbers for people to keep in mind.

Lakers in 2022-2023

Westbrook ON court, LeBron and AD OFF court: 106.6 ORtg, 120.6 DRtg, -14.0 NET
Westbrook + LeBron + AD ON Court: 113.8 ORtg, 112.0 DRtg, +1.8 NET
Westbrook + AD ON court, LeBron OFF court: 119.2 ORtg, 120.2 DRtg, -1.0 NET
Westbrook + LeBron ON court, AD OFF: 119.8 ORtg, 111.8 DRtg, +8.0 NET

Lakers from 12/16/2022 (AD’s injury) until Westbrook was traded

Westbrook + LeBron ON court, AD OFF: 122.9 ORtg, 112.6 DRtg, +10.3 NET

[thebigbird]

I did not watch much the lakers lately because the games are too late for me but is Darvin Ham better since Westbrook is gone?(like better rotation,less 3 guards lineup and thing like that)

He still plays Schroder more than I would probably like, but yes much better. Like Colbinii said, he has way more options now. It’s crazy seeing Walker go from playing 30+ mpg pretrade to 8 minutes in garbage time last night.

[homecourtloss]

I did not watch much the lakers lately because the games are too late for me but is Darvin Ham better since Westbrook is gone?(like better rotation,less 3 guards lineup and thing like that)

He still plays Schroder more than I would probably like, but yes much better. Like Colbinii said, he has way more options now. It’s crazy seeing Walker go from playing 30+ mpg pretrade to 8 minutes in garbage time last night.

His decision to take Lonnie “Net negative” Walker out of the rotation was key. One of the reasons that the lakers have looked so good the last two games is that they’ve only really played two poor defenders in DLo (who’s much better than he used to be and not a sieve) and Beasley who seems to be taking direction well with James on court. With the way Reaves is playing, Walker should only see garbage time minutes.

[Homer38]

I was confident that Ham was going to be a better HC with Westbrook out and also much better option in the rotation...Hopefully that will continue!

Vogel was also a better HC with the Lakers before the Westbrook trade.Not perfect but better since he was not forced to play a player like Westbrook so many minutes, no matter what

[parsnips33]

Very weird to see Bron miss so many layups last night, what was that all about?

[zimpy27]

Westbrook worked with one of LeBron or AD. Not both.

This year, Westbrook + AD worked on offense but not on defense. Westbrook + LeBron was actually one of the best duos in the NBA after AD’s injury but there were just too many other holes. The Lakers should have started Westbrook with LeBron after AD’s injury. They wound up getting into 1st quarter deficits and then came back with the duo.

In the upcoming weeks, we’re likely to hear a lot about Westbrook on the Clips, and possibly some “how they make it work while LeBron didn’t,” etc., so here are some numbers for people to keep in mind.

Lakers in 2022-2023

Westbrook ON court, LeBron and AD OFF court: 106.6 ORtg, 120.6 DRtg, -14.0 NET
Westbrook + LeBron + AD ON Court: 113.8 ORtg, 112.0 DRtg, +1.8 NET
Westbrook + AD ON court, LeBron OFF court: 119.2 ORtg, 120.2 DRtg, -1.0 NET
Westbrook + LeBron ON court, AD OFF: 119.8 ORtg, 111.8 DRtg, +8.0 NET

Lakers from 12/16/2022 (AD’s injury) until Westbrook was traded

Westbrook + LeBron ON court, AD OFF: 122.9 ORtg, 112.6 DRtg, +10.3 NET

There is a quirk with LeBron and +/- for 2-man lineups. He has a long history of having his best +/- with the bench PG. Delly, Caruso, Westbrook, every year in fact. It's actually largely due to the fact that LeBron playing with bench PG is often going against the opponent bench and destroying them.

[rk2023]

Read on Twitter

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Some pretty insane playmaking indicators here, considering this age. Forget older Nash, Stockton, Kidd etc. We’ve never seen this talented a playmaker at age 38 in NBA history. It’s crazy that current James might be better in this department than a lot of players’ apexes.

[zimpy27]

Read on Twitter

?s=46&t=JLwWE6oPc2_zoqRurJQSkQ

Some pretty insane playmaking indicators here, considering this age. Forget older Nash, Stockton, Kidd etc. We’ve never seen this talented a playmaker at age 38 in NBA history. It’s crazy that current James might be better in this department than a lot of players’ apexes.

*Cough* Westbrook