Nets sign Vaughn to multi-year extension

[ArksNetsSince99]

It appears that this move may be to signal that we are going to try to get back to building a strong culture like we had before. Having JV locked up shows a commitment at the top. We already have Sean Marks here for a long time. I think it signals the days of "Get rich quick" are over and we are going to try to make smart decisions with quality people throughout the organization..

If we get to build strong culture what about Marks and Tsai on Atkinsons doorstep with flowers and apologies ?

Vaughn is one notch above Nash , is it good ? No , no coach should be ever compared to Nash and extended , Vaughn is lost , without superstars he is what 1-4 ? Hardly deserving an extension

I gotta feeling most of people who approve this extension gonna quickly change their mind , more or less 20 games , Vaughn sucks

[Netaman]

It appears that this move may be to signal that we are going to try to get back to building a strong culture like we had before. Having JV locked up shows a commitment at the top. We already have Sean Marks here for a long time. I think it signals the days of "Get rich quick" are over and we are going to try to make smart decisions with quality people throughout the organization..

If we get to build strong culture what about Marks and Tsai on Atkinsons doorstep with flowers and apologies ?

Vaughn is one notch above Nash , is it good ? No , no coach should be ever compared to Nash and extended , Vaughn is lost , without superstars he is what 1-4 ? Hardly deserving an extension

I gotta feeling most of people who approve this extension gonna quickly change their mind , more or less 20 games , Vaughn sucks

I would take jv > atkinson personally. Atkinson gets lionized and while he was good at player development, his teams played zero defense.

i would however give atkinson a fat check to come back as a player development guru focused on fixing ben simmons.

[ArksNetsSince99]

It appears that this move may be to signal that we are going to try to get back to building a strong culture like we had before. Having JV locked up shows a commitment at the top. We already have Sean Marks here for a long time. I think it signals the days of "Get rich quick" are over and we are going to try to make smart decisions with quality people throughout the organization..

If we get to build strong culture what about Marks and Tsai on Atkinsons doorstep with flowers and apologies ?

Vaughn is one notch above Nash , is it good ? No , no coach should be ever compared to Nash and extended , Vaughn is lost , without superstars he is what 1-4 ? Hardly deserving an extension

I gotta feeling most of people who approve this extension gonna quickly change their mind , more or less 20 games , Vaughn sucks

I would take jv > atkinson personally. Atkinson gets lionized and while he was good at player development, his teams played zero defense.

i would however give atkinson a fat check to come back as a player development guru focused on fixing ben simmons.

Only guy who can fix Ben is Holger Geschwinder

[TheNetsFan]

It appears that this move may be to signal that we are going to try to get back to building a strong culture like we had before. Having JV locked up shows a commitment at the top. We already have Sean Marks here for a long time. I think it signals the days of "Get rich quick" are over and we are going to try to make smart decisions with quality people throughout the organization..

If we get to build strong culture what about Marks and Tsai on Atkinsons doorstep with flowers and apologies ?

Vaughn is one notch above Nash , is it good ? No , no coach should be ever compared to Nash and extended , Vaughn is lost , without superstars he is what 1-4 ? Hardly deserving an extension

I gotta feeling most of people who approve this extension gonna quickly change their mind , more or less 20 games , Vaughn sucks

I would take jv > atkinson personally. Atkinson gets lionized and while he was good at player development, his teams played zero defense.

i would however give atkinson a fat check to come back as a player development guru focused on fixing ben simmons.

Atkinson's teams greatly overachieved expectations. He didn't have any established, elite defensive players on his teams. Let's also remember, Vaughn was his main assistant & "defensive guru." I personally hate Vaughn's switch everything scheme, though we may finally have the personnel to make it work.

[Netaman]

If we get to build strong culture what about Marks and Tsai on Atkinsons doorstep with flowers and apologies ?

Vaughn is one notch above Nash , is it good ? No , no coach should be ever compared to Nash and extended , Vaughn is lost , without superstars he is what 1-4 ? Hardly deserving an extension

I gotta feeling most of people who approve this extension gonna quickly change their mind , more or less 20 games , Vaughn sucks

I would take jv > atkinson personally. Atkinson gets lionized and while he was good at player development, his teams played zero defense.

i would however give atkinson a fat check to come back as a player development guru focused on fixing ben simmons.

Atkinson's teams greatly overachieved expectations. He didn't have any established, elite defensive players on his teams. Let's also remember, Vaughn was his main assistant & "defensive guru." I personally hate Vaughn's switch everything scheme, though we may finally have the personnel to make it work.

his teams didn't greatly overachieve anything. his first 2 years they were a last place 20 win team exactly as everyone expected (though they did get very bad injury luck).

his 3rd year they went 42-40 and lost in 5 games in the playoffs. that team had allen in year 2 plus a bunch of vets who could defend (carroll, ed davis, etc). levert and rondae (and rodi) had ability defensively but never developed. that was a good group that had a fun season and kenny deserves credit for it but there was nothing special about that coaching job and that team wasn't on track to go anywhere giving up 112 points per game (as had happened all 3 years he was there).

in his last year pre-resignation i blame kyrie for the team's underperformance (and kenny's subsequent resignation) more than kenny, but you are what your record is. they were 28-34, as always bottom half of the league giving up 112 ppg.

the most overachieving anyone did in those 4 years was Jv in the bubble without kyrie.

there's a reason kenny hasn't gotten another head coaching job.

[ArksNetsSince99]

I would take jv > atkinson personally. Atkinson gets lionized and while he was good at player development, his teams played zero defense.

i would however give atkinson a fat check to come back as a player development guru focused on fixing ben simmons.

Atkinson's teams greatly overachieved expectations. He didn't have any established, elite defensive players on his teams. Let's also remember, Vaughn was his main assistant & "defensive guru." I personally hate Vaughn's switch everything scheme, though we may finally have the personnel to make it work.

his teams didn't greatly overachieve anything. his first 2 years they were a last place 20 win team exactly as everyone expected (though they did get very bad injury luck).

his 3rd year they went 42-40 and lost in 5 games in the playoffs. that team had allen in year 2 plus a bunch of vets who could defend (carroll, ed davis, etc). levert and rondae (and rodi) had ability defensively but never developed. that was a good group that had a fun season and kenny deserves credit for it but there was nothing special about that coaching job and that team wasn't on track to go anywhere giving up 112 points per game (as had happened all 3 years he was there).

in his last year pre-resignation i blame kyrie for the team's underperformance (and kenny's subsequent resignation) more than kenny, but you are what your record is. they were 28-34, as always bottom half of the league giving up 112 ppg.

the most overachieving anyone did in those 4 years was Jv in the bubble without kyrie.

there's a reason kenny hasn't gotten another head coaching job.

He was offered HC gig , he decided to stay with Warriors as a lead assistant and rightfully so , he won the ring

It’s not like he’s calling around the league to get HC gig and everyone declines him LOL

[Shark]

I'm fine with this. When he first got locked down for next season I thought it was alright since we were still contenders then. I said that if we end up blowing it up he could be great for a young team given how he did in the bubble with no KD or Kyrie. Let's see what he can get out of this group.

[Karate Diop]

I'm okay with this. I know many are nostalgic for Atkinson, but while I enjoyed his time here there were serious recurring flaws that started to show towards the end of his tenure (primarily his inflexibility on offense)... Let's give JV a chance.

[gigantes]

I would take jv > atkinson personally. Atkinson gets lionized and while he was good at player development, his teams played zero defense.

i would however give atkinson a fat check to come back as a player development guru focused on fixing ben simmons.

Atkinson's teams greatly overachieved expectations. He didn't have any established, elite defensive players on his teams. Let's also remember, Vaughn was his main assistant & "defensive guru." I personally hate Vaughn's switch everything scheme, though we may finally have the personnel to make it work.

his teams didn't greatly overachieve anything. his first 2 years they were a last place 20 win team exactly as everyone expected (though they did get very bad injury luck).

his 3rd year they went 42-40 and lost in 5 games in the playoffs. that team had allen in year 2 plus a bunch of vets who could defend (carroll, ed davis, etc). levert and rondae (and rodi) had ability defensively but never developed. that was a good group that had a fun season and kenny deserves credit for it but there was nothing special about that coaching job and that team wasn't on track to go anywhere giving up 112 points per game (as had happened all 3 years he was there).

in his last year pre-resignation i blame kyrie for the team's underperformance (and kenny's subsequent resignation) more than kenny, but you are what your record is. they were 28-34, as always bottom half of the league giving up 112 ppg.

the most overachieving anyone did in those 4 years was Jv in the bubble without kyrie.

there's a reason kenny hasn't gotten another head coaching job.

The overall talent on those squads was still miserable, though, so I don't see how 42-40 wasn't a massive accomplishment. Plus, those squads hustled like nobody's business, and I feel like if there's something that fans can respect, it's working your tail off even if the results fall short-ish.

By comparison, many an NBA coach has had a weak roster, yet came nowhere near what Kenny did in getting them to play hard as hell.

there's a reason kenny hasn't gotten another head coaching job.

Yeah, but isn't he the #1 assistant on a dynasty team?

For all we know, after the stress and bad exit out of BRK, he's found his comfort zone, and has little desire to be the head guy for the time being. Imagine how much he's learning from the experience, too, something which should serve him nicely down the road.

Indeed, I'm not sure I've heard Kenny's name mentioned a single time as a HC candidate in the years since, which would be pretty fluffing unusual given his accomplishments and league-wide reputation. Seems far more likely instead that his agent is saying "thanks but no thanks" for the time being, no..?

All that said, I'm happy with JV, and feel he's totally earned next season's gig, at the least.
Which is all that really matters right now, yeah?

[Netaman]

For all we know, after the stress and bad exit out of BRK, he's found his comfort zone, and has little desire to be the head guy for the time being. Imagine how much he's learning from the experience, too, something which should serve him nicely down the road.

Indeed, I'm not sure I've heard Kenny's name mentioned a single time as a HC candidate in the years since, which would be pretty fluffing unusual given his accomplishments and league-wide reputation. Seems far more likely instead that his agent is saying "thanks but no thanks" for the time being, no..?

All that said, I'm happy with JV, and feel he's totally earned next season's gig, at the least.
Which is all that really matters right now, yeah?

i think you are right about KA and i think there also havent been any big opportunities knocking down his door bc he is what he is.

i agree he created a good vibe - but jv also gets his guys to hustle and has now 2 or 3 times stepped in to create good vibes groups. he did it in the bubble with an even worse roster of waiver fill ins and he's gotten the post kd-injury and post kd-trade groups to play pretty well on the fly.

my point is just that jv checks a lot of the same boxes as both KA and Ime. he and ime have similar SAS pedigree, both were assistants here, both he and KA seem to get the teams behind him. those 2 get put up on pedestals though while the consensus on JV seems to be that he's more of a meh hire though.

[djsunyc]

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[gigantes]

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We're utterly drowning in strong rotation players, now.

Good grief, what we do...?

[ArksNetsSince99]

How the F CamT is all of a sudden odd men out , I understand about limiting his minutes , cool him down a little when he makes bad decisions but dressing him in street clothes is ridiculous decision

VAUGHN SUCKS !!!!

[MGrand15]

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Winfield is butthurt that the team didn't give Kyrie the keys to the franchise. He's been low-key bashing the Nets hard recently. The Cam Thomas thing is just a lie or an intentional bad interpretation of what Vaughn said.

[MrDollarBills]

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Kristian Winfield is not a reputable journalist.

[MrDollarBills]

How the F CamT is all of a sudden odd men out , I understand about limiting his minutes , cool him down a little when he makes bad decisions but dressing him in street clothes is ridiculous decision

VAUGHN SUCKS !!!!

Vaughn didn't say anything about benching Cam.

Kristian Winfield is not a credible journalist. He showed his ass two weeks ago. He probably wishes he can relocate to Dallas to suck Kyrie off.

[ArksNetsSince99]

How the F CamT is all of a sudden odd men out , I understand about limiting his minutes , cool him down a little when he makes bad decisions but dressing him in street clothes is ridiculous decision

VAUGHN SUCKS !!!!

Vaughn didn't say anything about benching Cam.

Kristian Winfield is not a credible journalist. He showed his ass two weeks ago. He probably wishes he can relocate to Dallas to suck Kyrie off.

I hope you’re right and this just words taken out of context or a simple lie

[MrDollarBills]

How the F CamT is all of a sudden odd men out , I understand about limiting his minutes , cool him down a little when he makes bad decisions but dressing him in street clothes is ridiculous decision

VAUGHN SUCKS !!!!

Vaughn didn't say anything about benching Cam.

Kristian Winfield is not a credible journalist. He showed his ass two weeks ago. He probably wishes he can relocate to Dallas to suck Kyrie off.

I hope you’re right and this just words taken out of context or a simple lie

I read what Vaughn said, he didn't say anything about Cam being benched. He did say that we need more from Cam than just scoring because those 40 point games were all losses except one.

[Keith Van Horn]

I highly doubt Cam is getting minutes cut. While he has his dummy moments on both sides of the ball, he's a cold-blooded killer when he finds his groove. Let's hope there's not cutting of minutes/punishment going on here. While I don't think Cam should be starting yet, he should be getting like 20-25 minutes comfortably each night.

[Keith Van Horn]

I suppose I'm fine with the JV extension, but I think it could have waited until the end of the season. I'll be watching things a little more closely from a "coach's" perspective... like his rotations, defensive schemes, play calling/timeouts... because to be honest things seemed just alright with him.

You guys talking about Kenny Atkinson too and his career since he left... wasn't he offered the Hornets head job and it was a done deal? And then last minute he decided to stay put in Golden State and not uproot his family and all? Just throwing that out there.