How can the Clippers best integrate Westbrook tactically?
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How can the Clippers best integrate Westbrook tactically?
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How can the Clippers best integrate Westbrook tactically?
Russell Westbrook is a complicated player in the sense that, every time he changes teams, there's an ideal to entertain in which he accepts a role more suited to his strengths (burst, explosiveness, shiftiness) to offset his loss of shooting touch and decision-making with the ball. But of course, we haven't really seen it happen, and it's largely due to that decision-making.
I'd say the closest we've seen to ideal situation for Westbrook since leaving OKC was Houston. Not a perfect fit next to Harden? Sure. Rockets technically better with him on the bench? Sure. You could argue Westbrook's fit anywhere will have problems. But I'd call Houston the best because it 1) was a D'Antoni-Harden offense with mega-spacing, which 2) promoted shots at the rim, and 3) as a result, Westbrook had the most efficient season of his career since his MVP.
His rate of FGAs within 3 feet halved when he joined the Wizards, and has only slightly improved with the Lakers. He's also started to take more floaters recently, perhaps as substitutes for longer shots, but he's not even knocking these down at a respectable rate. His output as the lead creator when LeBron James goes to the bench is concerning, to say the least. So what kinds of sets can the Clippers run to bring out Westbrook's better skills?
When the Lakers played the Celtics a few weeks ago, there was one play in OT that stood out to me. Lakers run something like an empty-side PNR for LeBron, and Westbrook is in the other corner. His defender (who might've been Grant Williams) was sagging off, and had his back to Westbrook and was preparing to help. Westbrook's a few seconds late to catch on, but once he realizes Williams's back is turned, he blows by and makes a put-back off LeBron's miss.
Again, there's an optimism that Westbrook can do this and do it often, though there's little evidence that it'll happen or dramatically improve his impact. 1) These plays don't come about like self-generated spots, and can be anticipated and stunted by savvier defenders; 2) Westbrook doesn't demonstrate quick reactions here; and 3) this works best, I think, next to PNR savants like LeBron, since you're not getting the same defensive 'looseness' on the strong-side corner. But if I had to guess, based on some of the plays I've seen, the potential for Westbrook's impact lies in some of this proactive thinking. More of this means fewer troubling decisions on the fly.
I'm obviously reluctant to entertain the idea that a player or team can dramatically change the way they play. And the general concerns of Westbrook's skills and fit aren't going away. But the Clips environment, in my guess, is his best chance to juice his efficiency back to 'below average' instead of 'really bad.' Being reductionistic, will Westbrook fit better with the Clippers' shooters than he did with LeBron's PNR mastery? He's probably having more spacing with the Clips, just in a different shape. So while there's a lot to sort out from a tactical perspective, and I'm not banking on a career revival here, there's probably a few threads to hang on if you're a Westbrook aficionado.
(Edit: Here's the play I referenced if you're interested: https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&ContextMeasure=FGA&EndPeriod=0&EndRange=31800&GameID=0022200749&PlayerID=201566&RangeType=0&Season=2022-23&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&StartPeriod=0&StartRange=0&TeamID=1610612747&flag=3&sct=plot§ion=game)
Westbrook's defender was actually Tatum. Williams is technically the help, and his back is turned, so Westbrook still blows by him. A great case of how he can exploit defensive reactions (or lack thereof) to his shooting.
I'd say the closest we've seen to ideal situation for Westbrook since leaving OKC was Houston. Not a perfect fit next to Harden? Sure. Rockets technically better with him on the bench? Sure. You could argue Westbrook's fit anywhere will have problems. But I'd call Houston the best because it 1) was a D'Antoni-Harden offense with mega-spacing, which 2) promoted shots at the rim, and 3) as a result, Westbrook had the most efficient season of his career since his MVP.
His rate of FGAs within 3 feet halved when he joined the Wizards, and has only slightly improved with the Lakers. He's also started to take more floaters recently, perhaps as substitutes for longer shots, but he's not even knocking these down at a respectable rate. His output as the lead creator when LeBron James goes to the bench is concerning, to say the least. So what kinds of sets can the Clippers run to bring out Westbrook's better skills?
When the Lakers played the Celtics a few weeks ago, there was one play in OT that stood out to me. Lakers run something like an empty-side PNR for LeBron, and Westbrook is in the other corner. His defender (who might've been Grant Williams) was sagging off, and had his back to Westbrook and was preparing to help. Westbrook's a few seconds late to catch on, but once he realizes Williams's back is turned, he blows by and makes a put-back off LeBron's miss.
Again, there's an optimism that Westbrook can do this and do it often, though there's little evidence that it'll happen or dramatically improve his impact. 1) These plays don't come about like self-generated spots, and can be anticipated and stunted by savvier defenders; 2) Westbrook doesn't demonstrate quick reactions here; and 3) this works best, I think, next to PNR savants like LeBron, since you're not getting the same defensive 'looseness' on the strong-side corner. But if I had to guess, based on some of the plays I've seen, the potential for Westbrook's impact lies in some of this proactive thinking. More of this means fewer troubling decisions on the fly.
I'm obviously reluctant to entertain the idea that a player or team can dramatically change the way they play. And the general concerns of Westbrook's skills and fit aren't going away. But the Clips environment, in my guess, is his best chance to juice his efficiency back to 'below average' instead of 'really bad.' Being reductionistic, will Westbrook fit better with the Clippers' shooters than he did with LeBron's PNR mastery? He's probably having more spacing with the Clips, just in a different shape. So while there's a lot to sort out from a tactical perspective, and I'm not banking on a career revival here, there's probably a few threads to hang on if you're a Westbrook aficionado.
(Edit: Here's the play I referenced if you're interested: https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&ContextMeasure=FGA&EndPeriod=0&EndRange=31800&GameID=0022200749&PlayerID=201566&RangeType=0&Season=2022-23&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&StartPeriod=0&StartRange=0&TeamID=1610612747&flag=3&sct=plot§ion=game)
Westbrook's defender was actually Tatum. Williams is technically the help, and his back is turned, so Westbrook still blows by him. A great case of how he can exploit defensive reactions (or lack thereof) to his shooting.
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Put a cheerleader uniform on him? Westy like his skirts
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depends on how they want to lose
politics
to many 3s
to many 3s
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4 shooters and only 5-10 min of playing time at most for bursts of energy
and he's also gotta be fine with certain games with NO playing time at all
realistically, they are better off with no russ on the court at all
and he's also gotta be fine with certain games with NO playing time at all
realistically, they are better off with no russ on the court at all
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He should fit very well if they let him run the offense. The pick and roll with Zubac will put pressure on the defense and take pressure off Leonard and George.
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Let him play for the opponent? Lol
Hate making these type of jokes because I've been a Westbrook fan for most of his career but he's at the same stage where guys like him (Marbury, Francis, Melo, Iverson, etc) fizzle out because they won't let their ego match their current production.
Hate making these type of jokes because I've been a Westbrook fan for most of his career but he's at the same stage where guys like him (Marbury, Francis, Melo, Iverson, etc) fizzle out because they won't let their ego match their current production.
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I don't know but man watch your team without Westbrook is like this


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The best way to use him tactically are making him do things completely out of his comfort zone, which is play good defense, limit his shot attempts, and restrict his minutes/pull him in close games. That's the best way to get the most out of him but I have no faith the Clippers will do that.
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he shouldn't start
he shouldn't close.
use him sparingly, for bursts of energy.
that's it.
he shouldn't close.
use him sparingly, for bursts of energy.
that's it.
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Never ever put him on the floor at the same time as one of the true centers.
Westbrook can provide a spark in the right context. Namely that he’s the primary ball handler and everyone else on the court with him can shoot, then you can leverage his playmaking which is by far his best skill at this point in his career.
Westbrook can provide a spark in the right context. Namely that he’s the primary ball handler and everyone else on the court with him can shoot, then you can leverage his playmaking which is by far his best skill at this point in his career.

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See if they can rescind the signing
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Plumlee and Westbrook will fit perfectly together. One's a Mason, the other a bricklayer.
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Ensure he never shoots unless its a layup or there's half a second left on the shot clock?
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There is nothing to integrate. He provides no value to an NBA team at this stage of his career (unless that team is actively trying to lose).
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Let him go full Westbrook.
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I’ve never seen a player given as many chances and hopes to change as Russ. .If Russ can just….”
bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
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Just let him drive and kick. Clips got the 3 point shooters. I'm gonna watch the Clippers closely the rest of the season, I really think Russ is gonna do great on that team. He was an atrocious fit with LeBron from day 1. Best point guard they've had since CP3.
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Let the hate flow through you!Raps in 4 wrote:There is nothing to integrate. He provides no value to an NBA team at this stage of his career (unless that team is actively trying to lose).