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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#81 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:14 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:If I'm the Cowboys GM, I taking LB, DT or OT with my first pick. I've had time to narrow it down with some homework and a bit of research. IMHO that would be best for the team moving forward.

Sounds like a bad strategy. Not taking the BPA usually backfires.

I guess it's a good thing Jerry doesn't listen to fans. :wink:

I am taking the best player available at those 3 positions. Outside of Cb, imho those are the areas of most need when you look at everything. And since Jerry fired Jimmie, he doesn't listen to anyone. That's his problem that will eventually be his downfall in the end when all is said and done. That's why Jimmy is not in the Ring Of Honor but in the Hall of fame. Onward through the fog.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#82 » by Mr B » Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:44 am

bluejerseyjinx wrote:If I'm the Cowboys GM, I taking LB, DT or OT with my first pick. I've had time to narrow it down with some homework and a bit of research. IMHO that would be best for the team moving forward.

They definitely need to add to the defense and they need to figure out what they’re going to do at LG. They have a really good young OL so adding to that is never a bad idea.

With that said if they get through the first two rounds and end up with RB Bijan Robinson, and WR Jalin Hyatt I’d be a happy man. Dak needs more weapons for him to be successful and both Robinson and Hyatt would be great additions. Robinson and Pollard would be one of the better backfield combos in the NFL and Hyatt has the speed to take the top off a defense.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#83 » by bluejerseyjinx » Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:49 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:If I'm the Cowboys GM, I taking LB, DT or OT with my first pick. I've had time to narrow it down with some homework and a bit of research. IMHO that would be best for the team moving forward.

They definitely need to add to the defense and they need to figure out what they’re going to do at LG. They have a really good young OL so adding to that is never a bad idea.

With that said if they get through the first two rounds and end up with RB Bijan Robinson, and WR Jalin Hyatt I’d be a happy man. Dak needs more weapons for him to be successful and both Robinson and Hyatt would be great additions. Robinson and Pollard would be one of the better backfield combos in the NFL and Hyatt has the speed to take the top off a defense.

None of that will matter if we don't add to the O-line most likely. I bring it up because the Cowboys were in bottom third of the league in pass protection last season. Tyrone Smith and Jason Peters are getting long in the tooth. Plus it makes perfect sense at this time to free up some cap space. Its just my opinion, but O-line is priority #1 for me if we go offense with first pick. Do you really think Bijan Robinson has a chance to fall to us? I see Tampa Bay swallowing him up if he even drops that far.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#84 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:03 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:If I'm the Cowboys GM, I taking LB, DT or OT with my first pick. I've had time to narrow it down with some homework and a bit of research. IMHO that would be best for the team moving forward.

They definitely need to add to the defense and they need to figure out what they’re going to do at LG. They have a really good young OL so adding to that is never a bad idea.

With that said if they get through the first two rounds and end up with RB Bijan Robinson, and WR Jalin Hyatt I’d be a happy man. Dak needs more weapons for him to be successful and both Robinson and Hyatt would be great additions. Robinson and Pollard would be one of the better backfield combos in the NFL and Hyatt has the speed to take the top off a defense.

None of that will matter if we don't add to the O-line most likely. I bring it up because the Cowboys were in bottom third of the league in pass protection last season. Tyrone Smith and Jason Peters are getting long in the tooth. Plus it makes perfect sense at this time to free up some cap space. Its just my opinion, but O-line is priority #1 for me if we go offense with first pick. Do you really think Bijan Robinson has a chance to fall to us. I see Tampa Bay swallowing him up if he even drops that far.

Hyatt is going to end up being a 1st rounder. Especially after the combine.

Worst case Bijan is picked in the teens. He'll be the number 1 player on some teams boards.

Sources from a number of teams have Robinson as the only player in the 2023 NFL Draft with an elite grade. He is the consensus best player with pro teams for the 2023 NFL Draft. As we reported in the Hot Press, sources from a number of teams had Robinson graded higher than other recent top-five running back prospects of Saquon Barkley, Leonard Fournette and Ezekiel Elliott.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#85 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:41 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:If I'm the Cowboys GM, I taking LB, DT or OT with my first pick. I've had time to narrow it down with some homework and a bit of research. IMHO that would be best for the team moving forward.

They definitely need to add to the defense and they need to figure out what they’re going to do at LG. They have a really good young OL so adding to that is never a bad idea.

With that said if they get through the first two rounds and end up with RB Bijan Robinson, and WR Jalin Hyatt I’d be a happy man. Dak needs more weapons for him to be successful and both Robinson and Hyatt would be great additions. Robinson and Pollard would be one of the better backfield combos in the NFL and Hyatt has the speed to take the top off a defense.

Do you really think adding an RB and WR without addressing the O-line will be beneficial for dumb Dak?
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#86 » by Mr B » Fri Feb 24, 2023 11:56 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:If I'm the Cowboys GM, I taking LB, DT or OT with my first pick. I've had time to narrow it down with some homework and a bit of research. IMHO that would be best for the team moving forward.

They definitely need to add to the defense and they need to figure out what they’re going to do at LG. They have a really good young OL so adding to that is never a bad idea.

With that said if they get through the first two rounds and end up with RB Bijan Robinson, and WR Jalin Hyatt I’d be a happy man. Dak needs more weapons for him to be successful and both Robinson and Hyatt would be great additions. Robinson and Pollard would be one of the better backfield combos in the NFL and Hyatt has the speed to take the top off a defense.

Do you really think adding an RB and WR without addressing the O-line will be beneficial for dumb Dak?

They will still add to the OL just not in the 1st round. Adding an elite RB (to pair with Pollard) and adding speed to the WR corp would definitely help Dak. In fact he needs it. He’s not the type of QB that can win a game by himself (figuratively speaking) like Mahomes. Dak needs help.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#87 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:06 am

Mr. B makes a very valid point.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#88 » by Mr B » Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:45 am

Here’s something interesting I found. Not sure how legit this is but if it’s true WOW! I’ve been hearing for a while that that they have an interest n Hendon Hooker and if not for the ACL injury he might be going in the top half of the 1st round. Is there a chance the Cowboys take him at 27?

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#89 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Feb 25, 2023 3:20 am

Mr B wrote:Here’s something interesting I found. Not sure how legit this is but if it’s true WOW! I’ve been hearing for a while that that they have an interest n Hendon Hooker and if not for the ACL injury he might be going in the top half of the 1st round. Is there a chance the Cowboys take him at 27?

Man that would be a reach. Most have him going in the 2nd-3rd round.

He had a good year. But Hooker is already 25 years old & is viewed as a developmental QB. The offense he ran at Tennessee is about as far from a pro system as you can get. Very QB friendly. I really don't view him as that great of a prospect. He's a high character guy. So teams will love that about him. But he doesn't really have any elite traits. He's a decent athlete. But still has a long ways to go to prove he can operate an NFL offense.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#90 » by Mr B » Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:21 pm

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Mr B wrote:Here’s something interesting I found. Not sure how legit this is but if it’s true WOW! I’ve been hearing for a while that that they have an interest n Hendon Hooker and if not for the ACL injury he might be going in the top half of the 1st round. Is there a chance the Cowboys take him at 27?

Man that would be a reach. Most have him going in the 2nd-3rd round.

He had a good year. But Hooker is already 25 years old & is viewed as a developmental QB. The offense he ran at Tennessee is about as far from a pro system as you can get. Very QB friendly. I really don't view him as that great of a prospect. He's a high character guy. So teams will love that about him. But he doesn't really have any elite traits. He's a decent athlete. But still has a long ways to go to prove he can operate an NFL offense.

I think once the Combine is over Hooker will be looked at as a late 1st early 2nd round pick. I believe the thinking is that he won’t be there by the time they pick in round 2. Also Dak wouldn’t be traded or released this off season. He would still be back for 1 more season. Drafting Hooker would send the same message the Eagles gave to Wentz when they drafted Hurts in the 2nd round. Either produce or it’s time for the Cowboys to move on.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#91 » by Mr B » Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:41 pm

This has been going around too. Trading up to #2 for CJ Stroud? I honestly don’t know how that would even be possible cap wise.

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#92 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:24 pm

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Mr B wrote:They definitely need to add to the defense and they need to figure out what they’re going to do at LG. They have a really good young OL so adding to that is never a bad idea.

With that said if they get through the first two rounds and end up with RB Bijan Robinson, and WR Jalin Hyatt I’d be a happy man. Dak needs more weapons for him to be successful and both Robinson and Hyatt would be great additions. Robinson and Pollard would be one of the better backfield combos in the NFL and Hyatt has the speed to take the top off a defense.

Do you really think adding an RB and WR without addressing the O-line will be beneficial for dumb Dak?

They will still add to the OL just not in the 1st round. Adding an elite RB (to pair with Pollard) and adding speed to the WR corp would definitely help Dak. In fact he needs it. He’s not the type of QB that can win a game by himself (figuratively speaking) like Mahomes. Dak needs help.

I don't think you are wrong at all. I just don't like the fact that our O-line was 26th in pass protection last season. I'm thinking a much better O-line will help Dak with more time to throw and a better running game taking pressure off him. With that said, I know we need another WR and RB. I hope we keep Schultz as well. Just the thought of Elliott coming back makes me want to puke. Maybe we can beef up the O-line in FA instead. Only O-lineman I like is Paris Johnson and there is no way he falls to us. Now that I have thought about it and you have talked me out of drafting O-line with the first pick, I'm going back to my original thought, draft defense. DT or LB works for me. There is a WR in FA that I have my eye on and its not OBJ or Hopkins. If the price is right, I want us to make a play for Tee Higgins. The perfect fit for us.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#93 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:30 pm

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Mr B wrote:Here’s something interesting I found. Not sure how legit this is but if it’s true WOW! I’ve been hearing for a while that that they have an interest n Hendon Hooker and if not for the ACL injury he might be going in the top half of the 1st round. Is there a chance the Cowboys take him at 27?

Man that would be a reach. Most have him going in the 2nd-3rd round.

He had a good year. But Hooker is already 25 years old & is viewed as a developmental QB. The offense he ran at Tennessee is about as far from a pro system as you can get. Very QB friendly. I really don't view him as that great of a prospect. He's a high character guy. So teams will love that about him. But he doesn't really have any elite traits. He's a decent athlete. But still has a long ways to go to prove he can operate an NFL offense.

I think once the Combine is over Hooker will be looked at as a late 1st early 2nd round pick. I believe the thinking is that he won’t be there by the time they pick in round 2. Also Dak wouldn’t be traded or released this off season. He would still be back for 1 more season. Drafting Hooker would send the same message the Eagles gave to Wentz when they drafted Hurts in the 2nd round. Either produce or it’s time for the Cowboys to move on.

Amen. :clap: About time after 7 years of his crap. 3 years too late IMHO. However I have no objection to waiting till next year. Draft class will be much better. We can take care of some other areas of need this year.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#94 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:32 pm

Mr B wrote:This has been going around too. Trading up to #2 for CJ Stroud? I honestly don’t know how that would even be possible cap wise.

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We still have to swallow the cap hit on Dumb Dak even in a trade correct?
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#95 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:26 pm

Mr B wrote:This has been going around too. Trading up to #2 for CJ Stroud? I honestly don’t know how that would even be possible cap wise.

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Yeah, Houston's not doing that.

A good young QB on a rookie contract is gold these days for these teams. Plus Houston is still in a rebuild. Why would they take on Dak & his contract? Makes little sense. Just from a roster & cap perspective.

The Cowboys would do that deal in a heartbeat though.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#96 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:46 pm

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Mr B wrote:This has been going around too. Trading up to #2 for CJ Stroud? I honestly don’t know how that would even be possible cap wise.

We still have to swallow the cap hit on Dumb Dak even in a trade correct?

$90M is the dead cap number should they trade or release him this offseason. That can be split between this year & next. So basically a cap hit of $40M this year & $50M next. Not ideal.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#97 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:52 pm

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Mr B wrote:This has been going around too. Trading up to #2 for CJ Stroud? I honestly don’t know how that would even be possible cap wise.

We still have to swallow the cap hit on Dumb Dak even in a trade correct?

$90M is the dead cap number should they trade or release him this offseason. That can be split between this year & next. So basically a cap hit of $40M this year & $50M next. Not ideal.

I know Dak sucks and all that, but even the thought of trading Dak at this point is just lousy business and doesn't make an ounce of sense at this point. There is know one that wants to get rid of Dak more than me, but we just can't do it this year.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#98 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:56 pm

Can someone please explain to me why a team has to continue to pay the contract of a player that a different team is willing to take on?
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#99 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:58 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:We still have to swallow the cap hit on Dumb Dak even in a trade correct?

$90M is the dead cap number should they trade or release him this offseason. That can be split between this year & next. So basically a cap hit of $40M this year & $50M next. Not ideal.

I know Dak sucks and all that, but even the thought of trading Dak at this point is just lousy business and doesn't make an ounce of sense at this point. There is know one that wants to get rid of Dak more than me, but we just can't do it this year.

Exactly. Even if you decide to trade him, he still will count against the cap. This year & next.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#100 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:02 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:Can someone please explain to me why a team has to continue to pay the contract of a player that a different team is willing to take on?

The team that signs him is responsible for the amount of guaranteed money in the deal. The Cowboys still owe him close to $90M in guaranteed money.

The team that trades for him would only be on the hook for his base salary.
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