What kind of basketball is this nonsense?

[MoneyTalks41890]

Sorry the players are too talented?

[theFireBlanket]

I mean... Klay went 12 of 17 from deep; DiVinny 5 of 9. If you gonna make 'em at that kind of rate might as well pull up. Houston defense wasn't exactly forcing them out of those shots.

DiVinny? What kinda nickname is that?


NO.

[Fantastik_Goat]

Remember when the offense was watching Vin Baker slam his back into Vlade Divac for ten seconds trying to back him down? And games between often had the winning team scoring in the low 80s? That was boring too. In fact, I’d say that was more boring. What golden era do you want to return to?

This is a lie
Vlade never got slammed into without flopping.

[Slacktard]

Don't know this could work on an NBA court (could work in a video game), moving the line back 1 foot after every made 3.

For an NBA court, draw two additional lines. One that's +5 feet, another that's +10 feet. After 5 three's everything has to be behind the +5 foot line, after 10 three's, there's now +10 feet.

[clyde21]

It never ceases to amaze me how some of you dudes cry and complain every single day and yet keep tuning in.

Find something new to watch if you hate it that bad

or - and I know this is crazy - people love the NBA but dislike the current environment and want to have to discussions on how it can improve?

[JayMKE]

Actually, I think 2pt shots are dumb and the league should do something about teams shooting so many of them. I think the proper balance is the reverse of what you saw in the 80s. Teams should only be attempting between 5-10 2pt shots per game. Anyone who thinks teams should shoot more 2pt shots than that is an idiot who doesn't appreciate real basketball. Its absolute insanity that we often see teams taking more 2pt shots than 3pt shots.

Sounds unwatchable as hell, people like you who worship analytics have ruined the game. Only way to get real basketball back is to remove the 3 point line, basketball can solve its 3TO problem but they have wake up to the fact that its a problem. Stat dorks should stick to fantasy sports and not pretend to be a real fan.

[Doug_12]

Actually, I think 2pt shots are dumb and the league should do something about teams shooting so many of them. I think the proper balance is the reverse of what you saw in the 80s. Teams should only be attempting between 5-10 2pt shots per game. Anyone who thinks teams should shoot more 2pt shots than that is an idiot who doesn't appreciate real basketball. Its absolute insanity that we often see teams taking more 2pt shots than 3pt shots.

Sounds unwatchable as hell, people like you who worship analytics have ruined the game. Only way to get real basketball back is to remove the 3 point line, basketball can solve its 3TO problem but they have wake up to the fact that its a problem. Stat dorks should stick to fantasy sports and not pretend to be a real fan.

No need to remove, that would be extremely drastic. The real problem is that nowadays it's just too easy to shoot threes vs the other forms of scoring. So the easiest fix would be to look at underused (and inefficient) ways of scoring and adjust first the officiating and then if it's not enough, then the rules a bit to balance them.

For example: To reduce the efficiency of 3s, they can start calling moving screens (to make it harder to get open looks for 3s). To increase the efficiency of post-ups more defensive fouls could be called in those plays or the 5 second rule could be removed. To increase ISOs man to man defense can be encouraged by reintroducing hand checks or calling more defensive fouls for help defenders.

[jasonxxx102]

It never ceases to amaze me how some of you dudes cry and complain every single day and yet keep tuning in.

Find something new to watch if you hate it that bad

or - and I know this is crazy - people love the NBA but dislike the current environment and want to have to discussions on how it can improve?

What legitimate suggestions have been discussed?

It’s the same old heads who romanticize the 80s-90s. The back in my day people who can’t adapt

[clyde21]

It never ceases to amaze me how some of you dudes cry and complain every single day and yet keep tuning in.

Find something new to watch if you hate it that bad

or - and I know this is crazy - people love the NBA but dislike the current environment and want to have to discussions on how it can improve?

What legitimate suggestions have been discussed?

It’s the same old heads who romanticize the 80s-90s. The back in my day people who can’t adapt

adapt to what exactly? that we've reached a point in the NBA where the RS is completely ignored and people are not tuning in? seems like they have.

[Optms]

Sorry the players are too talented?

Chucking 50+ 3's in a game isn't a sign of talent. That's strategic but hardly what I'd call talent.

[Bum Adebayo]

Players being more talented has nothing to do with 3pt spamming, players are overall much better shooting them for the mere fact that they practice 3pt shooting much more out of pure necessity (league demands 3pt shooting much more than before).
10 or 20 years ago, guys like Brook Lopez wouldn't be attempting almost any 3pt shot at all, this is a fact, what changed is analytics taking over, the best shooting team of all time (Warriors) succeeding, and suddenly every team tried to replicate it, or at least a variant of it.
If you want to fix this mess, the only way is that analytics tell you that 3pt spamming is not a great strategy, so basically nerfing the 3pt shot, either moving the line back or 3pt shot being worth less than 50% more than 2pt shot.

[Snowwy]

Actually, I think 2pt shots are dumb and the league should do something about teams shooting so many of them. I think the proper balance is the reverse of what you saw in the 80s. Teams should only be attempting between 5-10 2pt shots per game. Anyone who thinks teams should shoot more 2pt shots than that is an idiot who doesn't appreciate real basketball. Its absolute insanity that we often see teams taking more 2pt shots than 3pt shots.

Sounds unwatchable as hell, people like you who worship analytics have ruined the game. Only way to get real basketball back is to remove the 3 point line, basketball can solve its 3TO problem but they have wake up to the fact that its a problem. Stat dorks should stick to fantasy sports and not pretend to be a real fan.

This is a parody account, right?

[Braggins]

Actually, I think 2pt shots are dumb and the league should do something about teams shooting so many of them. I think the proper balance is the reverse of what you saw in the 80s. Teams should only be attempting between 5-10 2pt shots per game. Anyone who thinks teams should shoot more 2pt shots than that is an idiot who doesn't appreciate real basketball. Its absolute insanity that we often see teams taking more 2pt shots than 3pt shots.

Sounds unwatchable as hell, people like you who worship analytics have ruined the game. Only way to get real basketball back is to remove the 3 point line, basketball can solve its 3TO problem but they have wake up to the fact that its a problem. Stat dorks should stick to fantasy sports and not pretend to be a real fan.

This is a parody account, right?

Nah dude. 3pt shots are cool and rad. 2pt shots are lame and gay and stupid. Its egregious to have teams shooting a similar amount of 2s as 3s. They should probably make shots inside the arc worth 1 point and also allow any amount of contact inside the 3pt arc. Maybe electrify the rim as well so players get shocked if they try to dunk it. If that doesn't work we might have to make shots inside the arc worth negative points.

[Jkam31]

Hate to say this as I have been watching the NBA for decades, but it’s becoming harder to watch. I am finding myself tuning in for more Euro and NBL games. Of course the talent is not as great, but it’s a much better product as a viewer.

I watch one game a month basically now when I used to watch 3-5 games a week 5 years ago

[SichtingLives]

Remember when the offense was watching Vin Baker slam his back into Vlade Divac for ten seconds trying to back him down? And games between often had the winning team scoring in the low 80s? That was boring too. In fact, I’d say that was more boring. What golden era do you want to return to?

Your ass is showing because these games were barnburners that changed leads 30 times and ended on the last possession without 20 minutes of intentional NBA intervention. Yes those games were 1000 times more enthralling then games that have 102-72 scores at the end of the third quarter, check your bias.

[HotelVitale]

It never ceases to amaze me how some of you dudes cry and complain every single day and yet keep tuning in. Find something new to watch if you hate it that bad

or - and I know this is crazy - people love the NBA but dislike the current environment and want to have to discussions on how it can improve?

I honestly don't get it though--why was basketball better when it was mostly post-ups and midrange shots? I watch clips of old games pretty regularly and the things that are fun to watch are still pretty much the same--the runs, the suspense, the supreme talents showing out, etc--but nothing seems better at all in those games. Nothing seems fake about the new game to me, and nothing seems either cheap or super real about the 80s or 2000s version. What am I missing?

[eyeatoma]

3-pointers are BORing. Unless you like watching the ball in the air a lot....
I prefer the balls in hands or being fought over with passion, skill and persistence.

That's what she said...

[Rendei]

The NBA needs to just take out the corner 3. The rules incentivize taking as many of them as possible, and it's possibly the most boring shot in the game. Just let those be worth 2. It would also make defense possible again.

[cam24thomas]

The NBA needs to just take out the corner 3. The rules incentivize taking as many of them as possible, and it's possibly the most boring shot in the game. Just let those be worth 2. It would also make defense possible again.

That's one of the best ideas I've ever heard, thank you, wish you were commisioner

[chicago paxsons]

Aside from the obvious that 3 is more than 2, what makes 3s so much more valuable is that the 3 point shot is available along the whole length of the court on both sides.

Change this by removing the corner 3s without expanding the court would maintain the 3s value, but reduce it as an effective strategy to only certain areas on the court.

Removing the corner 3 would mean teams that focus so much on the 3 would be restricted to the backcourt making the offense more predictable and easier to defend.

The benefit is that since inside the 3pt line all shots are worth 2 points, there is no clearcut, best in every scenario shot anymore and would make offenses less predictable, which to me is the biggest problem with offenses today.