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2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition

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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#901 » by ShulaDon92 » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:39 am

MartyConlonJr wrote:https://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/NBA_stats.html

Just as the Spo hate continues:
- 21st on the all time winning list
- 0.590 winning percentage
- 5 x Conference Finals
- 2 x Championships
- HOF Coaches above him on win list with a higher winning percentage - Jerry Sloan, Pat Riley, Phil Jackson, Red Auerbach
Non-HOF Coaches above him on win list with a higher winning percentage - Gregg Popovich, Doc Rivers.

HOF Coaches below him with a close resume - Chuck Daly, Rudy Tomjanovich
Non-HOF Coaches below him with a close resume - K.C. Jones, Steve Kerr

Unless you are getting Steve Kerr, I just don't think there are better guys out there.

And if you look at those guys above - Pop had Duncan for 20 years. Phil Jackson had MJ, Pippen, Shaq, Kobe. Sloan had 20 years of Stockton and Malone, Auerbach had the dominant Celtics for forever, Riley had the Showtime Lakers for a long time, Kerr has Had Curry, Klay and Draymond throughout. Rudy had Olajuwon, Chuck had the Bad boys for a very long time.

Spo has had some good teams but has gone through a few reinventions that have brought his winning % down.

I really think Spo is the least of our problems - he may even be a victim of his success because guys that maybe have little business being rotation players elsewhere get turned into contributors for a time before getting figured out by other teams


Yea this dude's got a job for life. It's all about whether he goes up to the FO full time.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#902 » by MorbidHEAT » Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:08 pm

It's infuriating to me that the Knicks are ahead of us in the standings. It's not even about the hatred that I still have for that franchise, 20+ years later. What it is about is the fact that a franchise as crappy as the Knicks who are at the bottom of the league year in and year out for 2 decades is above us in the standings. It's simply unacceptable.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#903 » by gom » Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:23 pm

Times change. Did you really think a team with a history like the Knicks would never coompete again? LOL
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#904 » by MorbidHEAT » Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:39 pm

gom wrote:Times change. Did you really think a team with a history like the Knicks would never coompete again? LOL


I think a team that was 1 shot away from a possible finals appearance should absolutely be above the Knicks, yes. Also, if It doesn't bother you that a team with a history like the Knicks has made moves to get better, and we continue to make sign bad contracts or generally make poor decisions year after year with the exception of Butler...then I can't help you.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#905 » by Flash4thewin » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:11 pm

MartyConlonJr wrote:https://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/NBA_stats.html

Just as the Spo hate continues:
- 21st on the all time winning list
- 0.590 winning percentage
- 5 x Conference Finals
- 2 x Championships
- HOF Coaches above him on win list with a higher winning percentage - Jerry Sloan, Pat Riley, Phil Jackson, Red Auerbach
Non-HOF Coaches above him on win list with a higher winning percentage - Gregg Popovich, Doc Rivers.

HOF Coaches below him with a close resume - Chuck Daly, Rudy Tomjanovich
Non-HOF Coaches below him with a close resume - K.C. Jones, Steve Kerr

Unless you are getting Steve Kerr, I just don't think there are better guys out there.

And if you look at those guys above - Pop had Duncan for 20 years. Phil Jackson had MJ, Pippen, Shaq, Kobe. Sloan had 20 years of Stockton and Malone, Auerbach had the dominant Celtics for forever, Riley had the Showtime Lakers for a long time, Kerr has Had Curry, Klay and Draymond throughout. Rudy had Olajuwon, Chuck had the Bad boys for a very long time.

Spo has had some good teams but has gone through a few reinventions that have brought his winning % down.

I really think Spo is the least of our problems - he may even be a victim of his success because guys that maybe have little business being rotation players elsewhere get turned into contributors for a time before getting figured out by other teams


Im ok with keeping Spo, but at this point it's a fireable offense from anyone in charge to not hire a competent offensive minded assistant head coach. Let that person run the offense. Sure it cost real money instead of getting the Chris Quins of the world but for a franchise thats suppose to be about winning, its criminal we cant do the most basic of things right. It all comes down to a lack of accountability from the top to the bottom.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#906 » by Kobewade11 » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:12 pm

Wake me up when the Knicks win something :roll: or do they now give out trophies for being ahead of the Miami Heat in the standings
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Post#907 » by Flash4thewin » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:20 pm

Kobewade11 wrote:Wake me up when the Knicks win something :roll: or do they now give out trophies for being ahead of the Miami Heat in the standings


Does that apply to us also? :roll:
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Post#908 » by MorbidHEAT » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:23 pm

Kobewade11 wrote:Wake me up when the Knicks win something :roll: or do they now give out trophies for being ahead of the Miami Heat in the standings


You'll be sleeping a long time, much like if you were waiting for the Heat to win something also.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#909 » by Kobewade11 » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:34 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:
Kobewade11 wrote:Wake me up when the Knicks win something :roll: or do they now give out trophies for being ahead of the Miami Heat in the standings


Does that apply to us also? :roll:

Does what apply to us? Am I fan of another team on another board asking why the Miami Heat are ahead of us in the standings? :lol:
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Post#910 » by MorbidHEAT » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:58 pm

Kobewade11 wrote:
Flash4thewin wrote:
Kobewade11 wrote:Wake me up when the Knicks win something :roll: or do they now give out trophies for being ahead of the Miami Heat in the standings


Does that apply to us also? :roll:

Does what apply to us? Am I fan of another team on another board asking why the Miami Heat are ahead of us in the standings? :lol:


Lets all go back to pining over Dame, then. F**king douche**gs.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#911 » by Kobewade11 » Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:01 pm

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Lets all go back to pining over Dame, then. F**king douche**gs.

Hey im not in that camp but I know the posters who are
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Post#912 » by RexBoyWonder » Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:07 pm

We have no reason or right to be shocked, looking at the roster with objective eyes it's easy to see we have 2 great player, 1 inconsistent good player -

and nothing much around them. Everyone else on the roster can fairly be described as "below average player"

Why should the team be so great when that's your roster? we overachieved big time last season, this season is a much more accurate picture of the talent level on the roster
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Post#913 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:10 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:We have no reason or right to be shocked, looking at the roster with objective eyes it's easy to see we have 2 great player, 1 inconsistent good player -

and nothing much around them. Everyone else on the roster can fairly be described as "below average player"

Why should the team be so great when that's your roster? we overachieved big time last season, this season is a much more accurate picture of the talent level on the roster


Not sure I would classify Lowry as inconsistent good player. But I never liked him so there's that
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#914 » by BBallFreak » Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:13 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:
Kobewade11 wrote:Wake me up when the Knicks win something :roll: or do they now give out trophies for being ahead of the Miami Heat in the standings


Does that apply to us also? :roll:

We've won the East 6 times and won 3 championship trophies since 2006. Believe this or not, that makes us one of the best franchises in the association during that time. It appears though that if we don't win the whole thing every year we need to fire everyone...
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#915 » by RexBoyWonder » Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:18 pm

Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:We have no reason or right to be shocked, looking at the roster with objective eyes it's easy to see we have 2 great player, 1 inconsistent good player -

and nothing much around them. Everyone else on the roster can fairly be described as "below average player"

Why should the team be so great when that's your roster? we overachieved big time last season, this season is a much more accurate picture of the talent level on the roster


Not sure I would classify Lowry as inconsistent good player. But I never liked him so there's that


Jimmy and Bam = great players

Herro - Good inconsistent player

Lowry - Below average player (I'm biting my tongue not to use harsher words).
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#916 » by ShulaDon92 » Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:15 pm

MorbidHEAT wrote:
gom wrote:Times change. Did you really think a team with a history like the Knicks would never coompete again? LOL


I think a team that was 1 shot away from a possible finals appearance should absolutely be above the Knicks, yes. Also, if It doesn't bother you that a team with a history like the Knicks has made moves to get better, and we continue to make sign bad contracts or generally make poor decisions year after year with the exception of Butler...then I can't help you.


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Post#917 » by Rapaz » Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:12 pm

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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#918 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:31 pm

MorbidHEAT wrote:
Kobewade11 wrote:
Flash4thewin wrote:
Does that apply to us also? :roll:

Does what apply to us? Am I fan of another team on another board asking why the Miami Heat are ahead of us in the standings? :lol:


Lets all go back to pining over Dame, then. F**king douche**gs.


Dame Jimmy Bam big 3 with actual nba talent surrounding them is winning the championship.

If dame comes available Pat Riley is 10000000% throwing his hat in that race
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#919 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:33 pm

As Barry also says he’d be shocked to see Bam involved in any trade talks this summer but doesn’t say the same about Jimmy. I think we keep both and look for a 3rd star. Embiid wants out send 4 1sts Jovic and Herro, there’s your KD deal for Embiid
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#920 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:41 pm

Still very early, Love has a negative net rating next to each player in the starting lineup. He’s a bench piece
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