How much longer for Doc Rivers??

SkyHookFTW · Post #1 » by **SkyHookFTW** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:28 pm

After watching another end of game lack of adjustments on defense at the end of a game, how much longer will the 76ers put up with failure? Don't give me crap about the 76ers having the 4th best record. It's all about the post-season now. If they can get Harden to stay and get out from the Harris contract, they can add to Embiid-Harden-Maxey and actually have a chance with a better coach. This could be the last chance with Embiid. He can't play at this level forever.

druggas · Post #2 » by **druggas** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:43 pm

I've never seen a coach milk one championship as Rivers has.

HardenGoat · Post #3 » by **HardenGoat** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:46 pm

SkyHookFTW wrote:After watching another end of game lack of adjustments on defense at the end of a game, how much longer will the 76ers put up with failure? Don't give me crap about the 76ers having the 4th best record. It's all about the post-season now. If they can get Harden to stay and get out from the Harris contract, they can add to Embiid-Harden-Maxey and actually have a chance with a better coach. This could be the last chance with Embiid. He can't play at this level forever.

They would use Maxey with Tobias to get a star level player is my guess. Just dumping Tobias won’t help. I think Doc is kept if they get to the finals. Otherwise he is gone.

Johnny Bball · Post #4 » by **Johnny Bball** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:49 pm

If Rivers (and Lue) get even one more year beyond this if they fail, I will be gobsmacked.

pilkoids · Post #5 » by **pilkoids** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:52 pm

Embiid turning 29 in a few weeks crept up on me...

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ChaseDown · Post #6 » by **ChaseDown** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:58 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:If Rivers (and Lue) get even one more year beyond this if they fail, I will be gobsmacked.

Lue got screwed with the addition of Westbrook. Doc just happens to not be good & proven repeatedly

Johnny Bball · Post #7 » by **Johnny Bball** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:01 pm

ChaseDown wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:If Rivers (and Lue) get even one more year beyond this if they fail, I will be gobsmacked.

Lue got screwed with the addition of Westbrook. Doc just happens to not be good & proven repeatedly

He will be the one starting him and playing him 30 plus minutes. I find they make similar odd decisions.

Btw... Philly is going to be in real tough against Boston if they have to rely on getting 20+ more FTAs every game.

Bum Adebayo · Post #8 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:14 pm

Why is Maxey being mentioned here? he is one of the most overrated players I've ever seen, he is absolutely a mediocre player, has negative RPM and his very inconsistent scoring doesn't make up for being atrocious on defense.
If anything, we need to trade Maxey as soon as possible until all teams find out he is fools gold.

Charlesareed · Post #9 » by **Charlesareed** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:55 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:Why is Maxey being mentioned here? he is one of the most overrated players I've ever seen, he is absolutely a mediocre player, has negative RPM and his very inconsistent scoring doesn't make up for being atrocious on defense.
If anything, we need to trade Maxey as soon as possible until all teams find out he is fools gold.

As a chicagoian and bulls fan I’d trade Derozon Java te green coby white & DJJ for Tobias Harris & Maxey

NBA4Lyfe · Post #10 » by **NBA4Lyfe** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:58 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:Why is Maxey being mentioned here? he is one of the most overrated players I've ever seen, he is absolutely a mediocre player, has negative RPM and his very inconsistent scoring doesn't make up for being atrocious on defense.
If anything, we need to trade Maxey as soon as possible until all teams find out he is fools gold.

because maxey is signed to klutch sports, i remmeber before the season the media with espn was saying harden should take a backseat to maxey lol

adubmac · Post #11 » by **adubmac** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:13 pm

Rivers is at his best with a team of overachieving underdogs. Philly has the talent to challenge for a title, but Doc is not one of the reasons why.

-Luke- · Post #12 » by **-Luke-** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:16 pm

It will be an "interesting" summer in Philly if they disappoint in the playoffs. I'm not sure what they would have to accomplish for Doc to stay. Anything short of conference finals isn't going to be enough. Embiid is 29 (soon) and has a history with injuries, Harden is 33. It's not that this team has unlimited opportunities.

I'd guess the chance is less than 50% that he is their coach next year.

Homer38 · Post #13 » by **Homer38** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:04 pm

The rotation of Rivers was very poor vs Boston...I mean you should never have your 2 best players on the bench at the same time...

Homer38 · Post #14 » by **Homer38** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:06 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:
ChaseDown wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:If Rivers (and Lue) get even one more year beyond this if they fail, I will be gobsmacked.

Lue got screwed with the addition of Westbrook. Doc just happens to not be good & proven repeatedly

He will be the one starting him and playing him 30 plus minutes. I find they make similar odd decisions.

Btw... Philly is going to be in real tough against Boston if they have to rely on getting 20+ more FTAs every game.

When a team have Westbrook,the head coach is forced to play Westbrook so many minutes even when you don't want to do this...Just ask Vogel or Ham with the lakers

SK21209 · Post #15 » by **SK21209** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:29 pm

Homer38 wrote:The rotation of Rivers was very poor vs Boston...I mean you should never have your 2 best players on the bench at the same time...

That's always made sense to me, but I think a lot of coaches do this. Vogel and now Ham have LeBron and AD on the bench at the same time. When I watched Nuggets/Cavs the other day the Nuggets had Jokic/Murray/MPJ all out at the same time. I think the good coaches do ultimately stagger in the playoffs, but in the regular season they want their best lineups to get reps together. Part of it, I think, is also a "gentlemen's agreement" of sorts between coaches to play largely bench lineups against largely bench lineups in the regular season, kind of like how everyone used to start their non-spacing center and then move to smaller lineups to close games.

Ice Trae · Post #16 » by **Ice Trae** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:34 pm

How much longer???? Really??? Would you ask us that about Pop? No you wouldnt so dont ask us that about Doc. Hes deserved it.

BelgradeNugget · Post #17 » by **BelgradeNugget** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:36 pm

Homer38 wrote:The rotation of Rivers was very poor vs Boston...I mean you should never have your 2 best players on the bench at the same time...

He, he Malone is routinely playing all-5 bench players together. He finally discovered he should always have Jokic or Murray on the court in December after 5 years of coaching them, had good result, but forgot all about it in a month. Grizzlies run all over Nuggets bench, with 5 players who had no idea what to do on the court, in like 3,5 mins. Funny thing is Doc vastly out coached Malone in Philly-Nuggets game.
I sometimes wonder what is problem with these coaches when fans see simple solutions they are not able to see :banghead:

BelgradeNugget · Post #18 » by **BelgradeNugget** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:39 pm

SK21209 wrote:
Homer38 wrote:The rotation of Rivers was very poor vs Boston...I mean you should never have your 2 best players on the bench at the same time...

That's always made sense to me, but I think a lot of coaches do this. Vogel and now Ham have LeBron and AD on the bench at the same time. When I watched Nuggets/Cavs the other day the Nuggets had Jokic/Murray/MPJ all out at the same time. I think the good coaches do ultimately stagger in the playoffs, but in the regular season they want their best lineups to get reps together. Part of it, I think, is also a "gentlemen's agreement" of sorts between coaches to play largely bench lineups against largely bench lineups in the regular season, kind of like how everyone used to start their non-spacing center and then move to smaller lineups to close games.

Good point about Malone. He is hokey coach. What I don't understand is if he planes to stagger in the playoffs, why he is not practicing those stagger lineups now?

hoosierdaddy34 · Post #19 » by **hoosierdaddy34** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:46 pm

You aren’t going to make a change now. I suspect he will have this season and if they don’t make the nba finals he will be replaced.

Johnny Bball · Post #20 » by **Johnny Bball** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:47 pm

Homer38 wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
ChaseDown wrote:
Lue got screwed with the addition of Westbrook. Doc just happens to not be good & proven repeatedly

He will be the one starting him and playing him 30 plus minutes. I find they make similar odd decisions.

Btw... Philly is going to be in real tough against Boston if they have to rely on getting 20+ more FTAs every game.

When a team have Westbrook,the head coach is forced to play Westbrook so many minutes even when you don't want to do this...Just ask Vogel or Ham with the lakers

Oh, no they are not. And he was coming off the bench under Ham.