2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Yea I think it’s a big shakeup coming this summer. If he’s traded I wish him the best, he just isn’t the right guy for this current team and what we need at the moment. Good young player, I think his true calling is a 20 PPG bench guy like we saw last season

[dean456]

As far as this season goes. There's a lot of blame being pushed on Spo's coaching, Lowry being bad, Jimmy coasting, Herro for being inconsistent or Bam for some reason?

But truth is we'd be a top 3 team in the East if our shooters hit a decent percentage from 3. How many games have been lost this season by like 3-5pts if those guys hit their WIDE OPEN shots we winning like 30-40% more of our losses this year, which would be another 10-12 wins and have us sitting near the top of the conference.

The blame can only be put on the front office for believing we could just run this back minus PJ while all other teams making the moves necessary to continue competing and the role players who aren't doing their only job.

[eddieheatfan]

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Yea I think it’s a big shakeup coming this summer. If he’s traded I wish him the best, he just isn’t the right guy for this current team and what we need at the moment. Good young player, I think his true calling is a 20 PPG bench guy like we saw last season

watch him thrive in another team lol

[dean456]

Honestly I hope to see ATL, TOR, WAS, CHI and even IND pass us at this stage.

We need assets desperately if we are gonna make big moves in the offseason and having a top 8 pick next season will help that a lot.

[HeatFanLifer]

As far as this season goes. There's a lot of blame being pushed on Spo's coaching, Lowry being bad, Jimmy coasting, Herro for being inconsistent or Bam for some reason?

But truth is we'd be a top 3 team in the East if our shooters hit a decent percentage from 3. How many games have been lost this season by like 3-5pts if those guys hit their WIDE OPEN shots we winning like 30-40% more of our losses this year, which would be another 10-12 wins and have us sitting near the top of the conference.

The blame can only be put on the front office for believing we could just run this back minus PJ while all other teams making the moves necessary to continue competing and the role players who aren't doing their only job.

I definitely think management is to blame for this sub-par team build. But I saw this sequence of events (below) last night in the replay and Spo needs to be held to account for not doing anything while his team had a 16-0 stretch ran on it through two quarters without making any adjustment. Not sure what BBallFreak has to say about that mental lapse. Looks to me the signs of a coach without much left.

Spoiler:

3 mins lefts in the first quarter Spo puts in the amazing unit we seen in the Bucks game of Oladipo, Strus, Duncan, Martin and Zeller this amazing unit which started with of course everyones favorite Strus brick. Unit stayed in and was scoreless until they sub Bam in 2 mins later in the 2nd

[ShulaDon92]

As far as this season goes. There's a lot of blame being pushed on Spo's coaching, Lowry being bad, Jimmy coasting, Herro for being inconsistent or Bam for some reason?

But truth is we'd be a top 3 team in the East if our shooters hit a decent percentage from 3. How many games have been lost this season by like 3-5pts if those guys hit their WIDE OPEN shots we winning like 30-40% more of our losses this year, which would be another 10-12 wins and have us sitting near the top of the conference.

The blame can only be put on the front office for believing we could just run this back minus PJ while all other teams making the moves necessary to continue competing and the role players who aren't doing their only job.

I definitely think management is to blame for this sub-par team build. But I saw this sequence of events (below) last night in the replay and Spo needs to be held to account for not doing anything while his team had a 16-0 stretch ran on it through two quarters without making any adjustment. Not sure what BBallFreak has to say about that mental lapse. Looks to me the signs of a coach without much left.

Spoiler:

3 mins lefts in the first quarter Spo puts in the amazing unit we seen in the Bucks game of Oladipo, Strus, Duncan, Martin and Zeller this amazing unit which started with of course everyones favorite Strus brick. Unit stayed in and was scoreless until they sub Bam in 2 mins later in the 2nd

Spos had a great run. If he's cooked it's time to move him up to the office.

Can't lose him.

[Flash4thewin]

As far as this season goes. There's a lot of blame being pushed on Spo's coaching, Lowry being bad, Jimmy coasting, Herro for being inconsistent or Bam for some reason?

But truth is we'd be a top 3 team in the East if our shooters hit a decent percentage from 3. How many games have been lost this season by like 3-5pts if those guys hit their WIDE OPEN shots we winning like 30-40% more of our losses this year, which would be another 10-12 wins and have us sitting near the top of the conference.

The blame can only be put on the front office for believing we could just run this back minus PJ while all other teams making the moves necessary to continue competing and the role players who aren't doing their only job.

If the system is based on un drafted players making 3, then well i dont know what to say.

As for other teams passing us, that means our record is finals, getting swept off the court like we dont belong, eastern finals, then lottery. It doesn’t matter what someone did for this organization 10 years ago, accountability means someone needs to get fired for that level of incompetence.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Yea I think it’s a big shakeup coming this summer. If he’s traded I wish him the best, he just isn’t the right guy for this current team and what we need at the moment. Good young player, I think his true calling is a 20 PPG bench guy like we saw last season

watch him thrive in another team lol

He’s thrived here, made a name for himself.

[HeatFanLifer]

As far as this season goes. There's a lot of blame being pushed on Spo's coaching, Lowry being bad, Jimmy coasting, Herro for being inconsistent or Bam for some reason?

But truth is we'd be a top 3 team in the East if our shooters hit a decent percentage from 3. How many games have been lost this season by like 3-5pts if those guys hit their WIDE OPEN shots we winning like 30-40% more of our losses this year, which would be another 10-12 wins and have us sitting near the top of the conference.

The blame can only be put on the front office for believing we could just run this back minus PJ while all other teams making the moves necessary to continue competing and the role players who aren't doing their only job.

I definitely think management is to blame for this sub-par team build. But I saw this sequence of events (below) last night in the replay and Spo needs to be held to account for not doing anything while his team had a 16-0 stretch ran on it through two quarters without making any adjustment. Not sure what BBallFreak has to say about that mental lapse. Looks to me the signs of a coach without much left.

Spoiler:

3 mins lefts in the first quarter Spo puts in the amazing unit we seen in the Bucks game of Oladipo, Strus, Duncan, Martin and Zeller this amazing unit which started with of course everyones favorite Strus brick. Unit stayed in and was scoreless until they sub Bam in 2 mins later in the 2nd

Spos had a great run. If he's cooked it's time to move him up to the office.

Can't lose him.

I think he just needs to get a strong minded assistant coach. Someone who will call him out during these periods of mental lapses and make the team better with in-game adjustments. When Fizdale was here, I regularly saw him talking to Spo during games, but I’m not seeing that so much at the games I have been to. If he doesn’t want someone on the team other than sycophants, then it’s time for him to move on from coaching.

[ShulaDon92]

I definitely think management is to blame for this sub-par team build. But I saw this sequence of events (below) last night in the replay and Spo needs to be held to account for not doing anything while his team had a 16-0 stretch ran on it through two quarters without making any adjustment. Not sure what BBallFreak has to say about that mental lapse. Looks to me the signs of a coach without much left.

Spoiler:

Spos had a great run. If he's cooked it's time to move him up to the office.

Can't lose him.

I think he just needs to get a strong minded assistant coach. Someone who will call him out during these periods of mental lapses and make the team better with in-game adjustments. When Fizdale was here, I regularly saw him talking to Spo during games, but I’m not seeing that so much at the games I have been to. If he doesn’t want someone on the team other than sycophants, then it’s time for him to move on from coaching.

I agree, if he's surrounding himself with "yes men" that's a philosophically flawed approach and very banana republic. I hope that's not the case, i have no idea.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

It’s just wild to me. Strus Duncan and Gabe have been shooters their entire lives, their lives revolve around basketball and they could get up 1000 shots a day if they want but they’ve just flat out forgot how to shoot and can’t even make wide open 3s anymore regardless of who we’re playing.

[eddieheatfan]

Spos had a great run. If he's cooked it's time to move him up to the office.

Can't lose him.

I think he just needs to get a strong minded assistant coach. Someone who will call him out during these periods of mental lapses and make the team better with in-game adjustments. When Fizdale was here, I regularly saw him talking to Spo during games, but I’m not seeing that so much at the games I have been to. If he doesn’t want someone on the team other than sycophants, then it’s time for him to move on from coaching.

I agree, if he's surrounding himself with "yes men" that's a philosophically flawed approach and very banana republic. I hope that's not the case, i have no idea.

i'm jusdt baffled that the same team as last years sans tucker is sucking so much. its a shame really

if it were for me i would have moved on from spo looooong time ago because his rotations are simply bad

[ShulaDon92]

I think he just needs to get a strong minded assistant coach. Someone who will call him out during these periods of mental lapses and make the team better with in-game adjustments. When Fizdale was here, I regularly saw him talking to Spo during games, but I’m not seeing that so much at the games I have been to. If he doesn’t want someone on the team other than sycophants, then it’s time for him to move on from coaching.

I agree, if he's surrounding himself with "yes men" that's a philosophically flawed approach and very banana republic. I hope that's not the case, i have no idea.

i'm jusdt baffled that the same team as last years sans tucker is sucking so much. its a shame really

if it were for me i would have moved on from spo looooong time ago because his rotations are simply bad

It's a cyclical energy thing. Look at the Warriors, they peaked out too.

[ShulaDon92]

In todays run n gun league, you burn out.

Look at the Suns. Can't stay pat.

Is Monty Williams a bad coach now? He was coty 18 months ago...

Plus, there's a lot of parity.

I'm impressed Spo's kept this thing afloat as long as he has.



-SHULA

[MettaWorldPanda]

I 100% agree here. I'm not expecting Lowry and pick or picks to net us a star but if it can net us some capable NBA role players to go along with Bam, Butler, and Herro then I'm all for it.

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[dean456]

As far as this season goes. There's a lot of blame being pushed on Spo's coaching, Lowry being bad, Jimmy coasting, Herro for being inconsistent or Bam for some reason?

But truth is we'd be a top 3 team in the East if our shooters hit a decent percentage from 3. How many games have been lost this season by like 3-5pts if those guys hit their WIDE OPEN shots we winning like 30-40% more of our losses this year, which would be another 10-12 wins and have us sitting near the top of the conference.

The blame can only be put on the front office for believing we could just run this back minus PJ while all other teams making the moves necessary to continue competing and the role players who aren't doing their only job.

I definitely think management is to blame for this sub-par team build. But I saw this sequence of events (below) last night in the replay and Spo needs to be held to account for not doing anything while his team had a 16-0 stretch ran on it through two quarters without making any adjustment. Not sure what BBallFreak has to say about that mental lapse. Looks to me the signs of a coach without much left.

Spoiler:

3 mins lefts in the first quarter Spo puts in the amazing unit we seen in the Bucks game of Oladipo, Strus, Duncan, Martin and Zeller this amazing unit which started with of course everyones favorite Strus brick. Unit stayed in and was scoreless until they sub Bam in 2 mins later in the 2nd

How did we go from Spo being arguably the coach of the year last season to a coach who doesn't look like he has much left? Spo makes questionable decisions that are valid to criticize but that is by no means exclusive to Spo. The grass is definitely not greener on the other side. There are still plenty of players and reputable people who say Spo is one of if not the best coach in the league.

I don't blame him for having lapses in attention to detail this season of all seasons the way this teams been playing.

The team as a whole is a mess, we are constructed poorly and its having a trickle effect on everything. There's just too many things we can point to and say its the problem so its hard to say that its any one thing.

But to me, its obvious that this team is too heavily reliant on undrafted players who don't have the motors to sustain a high level of play in this league for a long duration and they are now worn out and are unable to continue shooting at a high percentage, and our stars are not 3 level scorers so they can't make up for where our role players are lacking and get us by our struggles. Feel like that has been our most consistent problem this season with this team.

[Heat_Down_Under]

Look at Naz Reid starting and killing the warriors.. after 15 mins 22 points 7 rebounds 9/12 FG 3/5 3PT

[MettaWorldPanda]

https://heatnation.com/rumors/nba-insider-says-he-was-told-multiple-times-that-pat-riley-likes-guard-collin-sexton/

Lowry, Jovic, and protected pick to the Jazz in the offseason for Sexton and Olynyk could make some sense. The contracts equal out. Jazz have a million picks coming up and have to almost assume they'll be looking for there PG of the future.

[HeatFanLifer]

How did we go from Spo being arguably the coach of the year last season to a coach who doesn't look like he has much left? Spo makes questionable decisions that are valid to criticize but that is by no means exclusive to Spo. The grass is definitely not greener on the other side. There are still plenty of players and reputable people who say Spo is one of if not the best coach in the league.

I don't blame him for having lapses in attention to detail this season of all seasons the way this teams been playing.

The team as a whole is a mess, we are constructed poorly and its having a trickle effect on everything. There's just too many things we can point to and say its the problem so its hard to say that its any one thing.

But to me, its obvious that this team is too heavily reliant on undrafted players who don't have the motors to sustain a high level of play in this league for a long duration and they are now worn out and are unable to continue shooting at a high percentage, and our stars are not 3 level scorers so they can't make up for where our role players are lacking and get us by our struggles. Feel like that has been our most consistent problem this season with this team.

It’s tough staying current in the game. Personnel decisions have definitely been lacking, but Spo needs some new brain power giving him ideas. I was shocked Fizdale went to the Lakers to coach as an assistant and onward to the Jazz as an assistant GM. Would have been great to have him back. I am curious if the Heat even extended him an offer.

As another example of his coaching lapses, look at the fourth quarter of the recent loss to the Nets. Last game before the all star break in a critical matchup to determine playoff seeding. Spo waits until around 7 mins left in the game to get Yimmy in and doesn’t draw up a play for him until almost the final minute when the team was down by 15. I was yelling at the tv to get him a play. It was a mess. Part of the problem is talent, but Spo could not come up with a play to get Yimmy open too.

[HeatFanLifer]

Some more stats for ya:
Heat rank 2nd to last in league in team fg% at 45%. 3rd to last in league for team 3 pt% at 33.1%. They are also in the worse half of the league in both opp fg % and opp 3 pt %.

Take that info however you like. Just don’t lie about what I say again breh.