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2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition

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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#1021 » by Rapaz » Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:52 am

All y'all hating on His Eminence Lord Pajama will be eating some boiled crow this summer when he lands Embiid and Lillard for a poo-poo platter and some sixth graders to be named later.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#1022 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:05 am

Rapaz wrote:All y'all hating on His Eminence Lord Pajama will be eating some boiled crow this summer when he lands Embiid and Lillard for a poo-poo platter and some sixth graders to be named later.

Lord Pajama Palpatine Pat strikes back this summer

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Post#1023 » by Timantha » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:06 am

Damn Russ is playing well for the Clips right now lol
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Post#1024 » by ShulaDon92 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:08 am

Anyways, shooters gotta get their crap together. Herro and Butler need to keep jelling. Bam's consistent and hopefully he can turn on another gear again when it matters.

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Post#1025 » by ShulaDon92 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:09 am

I want to see more from Zellar. Need him shooting threes.
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Post#1026 » by ShulaDon92 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:10 am

Where the heck is Yurt77?
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Post#1027 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:12 am

ShulaDon92 wrote:I want to see more from Zellar. Need him shooting threes.

Zellar has looked solid. Prototype backup Center for us. Our guard play is what has killed us lately. They all forgot how to shoot. Should have picked up Wayne Ellington off the heap
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#1028 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:14 am

ShulaDon92 wrote:Where the heck is Yurt77?

Supposed to be getting some work in the G league soon.
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Post#1029 » by rate_ » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:14 am

ShulaDon92 wrote:Anyways, shooters gotta get their crap together. Herro and Butler need to keep jelling. Bam's consistent and hopefully he can turn on another gear again when it matters.

Ready for war.

Bam is not an offensive player. Look what happens when the Heat gives him a bigger role: Miami bottom 5 in offensive efficiency. I understand alot of that would have to do with the abysmal 3 point shooting by Strus, Duncan, etc. but Bam can be easily schemed for on offense because he is a limited player. He can't take USG from those abysmal shooters to be less reliant on them because of his limitations on offense.
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Post#1030 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:20 am

rate_ wrote:
ShulaDon92 wrote:Anyways, shooters gotta get their crap together. Herro and Butler need to keep jelling. Bam's consistent and hopefully he can turn on another gear again when it matters.

Ready for war.

Bam is not an offensive player. Look what happens when the Heat gives him a bigger role: Miami bottom 5 in offensive efficiency. I understand alot of that would have to do with the abysmal 3 point shooting by Strus, Duncan, etc. but Bam can be easily schemed for on offense because he is a limited player. He can't take USG from those abysmal shooters because of his limitations on offense.


I’d say Bams very efficient 22 a night and knockdown mid range jumper are not the reason for this teams offense being so terrible. It’s easily the massive drop off in 3 point shooting. Come on now, this is just flat out wrong
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Post#1031 » by rate_ » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:23 am

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rate_ wrote:
ShulaDon92 wrote:Anyways, shooters gotta get their crap together. Herro and Butler need to keep jelling. Bam's consistent and hopefully he can turn on another gear again when it matters.

Ready for war.

Bam is not an offensive player. Look what happens when the Heat gives him a bigger role: Miami bottom 5 in offensive efficiency. I understand alot of that would have to do with the abysmal 3 point shooting by Strus, Duncan, etc. but Bam can be easily schemed for on offense because he is a limited player. He can't take USG from those abysmal shooters because of his limitations on offense.


I’d say Bams very efficient 22 a night and knockdown mid range jumper are not the reason for this teams offense being so terrible. It’s easily the massive drop off in 3 point shooting. Come on now, this is just flat out wrong

Bam is efficient from midrange (although his overall scoring efficiency is just league average), but he's still very limited as a scorer as he doesn't do much else. Get a real offensive talent that's not a liability on defense and let Bam focus more on defense and rim rolling in a Kevon Looney role. That would help Heat overall game alot I feel.
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Post#1032 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:24 am

I can promise you Bam taking 2 more shots than last season in the same usage did not destroy this offense and make everyone decide to start missing wide open 3s
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Post#1033 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:25 am

rate_ wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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rate_ wrote:Bam is not an offensive player. Look what happens when the Heat gives him a bigger role: Miami bottom 5 in offensive efficiency. I understand alot of that would have to do with the abysmal 3 point shooting by Strus, Duncan, etc. but Bam can be easily schemed for on offense because he is a limited player. He can't take USG from those abysmal shooters because of his limitations on offense.


I’d say Bams very efficient 22 a night and knockdown mid range jumper are not the reason for this teams offense being so terrible. It’s easily the massive drop off in 3 point shooting. Come on now, this is just flat out wrong

Bam is efficient from midrange (although his overall scoring efficiency is just league average), but he's still very limited as a scorer as he doesn't do much else. Get a real offensive talent that's not a liability on defense and let Bam focus more on defense and rim rolling as a Draymond Green type.


He scores In many different ways. You don’t neuter him and make him Draymond. He’s still improving every season
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#1034 » by ShulaDon92 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:41 am

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ShulaDon92 wrote:I want to see more from Zellar. Need him shooting threes.

Zellar has looked solid. Prototype backup Center for us. Our guard play is what has killed us lately. They all forgot how to shoot. Should have picked up Wayne Ellington off the heap


I like what Ive seen from Zellar. Good numbers. But he hasn't been spamming threes. It would be good to see more threes from our new guys and less from the guards, who are bricking...

Love was on target.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#1035 » by MorbidHEAT » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:43 am

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Well I am glad I don''t need your help.


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Post#1036 » by rate_ » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:43 am

If Bam didn't have a limited scoring arsenal, with the amount of touches and involvement he gets on offense, TBH he should be averaging 25+ pts in this scoring inflated era. We wouldn't have to be so reliant on Strus hitting his threes if Bam had the arsenal and repertoire to take the usage away from him. Bam is easier to scheme for because of this and on top of that he isn't a bruiser like Jimmy. He looks to avoid contact instead of initiate it. So, stop trying to make him into something he is not and let him focus on defense. a
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#1037 » by SerialChiller » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:46 am

The sharks smell blood in the water and are circling. There's a thread on the General Board about if Butler might be the next star to ask for a trade lol. They took his I'm tired of losing comment out of context but still. If we can't get anyone significant in the offseason we should trade him to be honest.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#1038 » by MorbidHEAT » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:46 am

Timantha wrote:Damn Russ is playing well for the Clips right now lol


Lakers weren't using him right. He is not a spot up shooter, he has to dominate the ball.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#1039 » by MorbidHEAT » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:49 am

SerialChiller wrote:The sharks smell blood in the water and are circling. There's a thread on the General Board about if Butler might be the next star to ask for a trade lol. They took his I'm tired of losing comment out of context but still. If we can't get anyone significant in the offseason we should trade him to be honest.


It's not that far fetched. We have wasted a few of his great years with d league talent. He deserves to win a title. Also, he is the asset that can bring back the most value. Any contending team would take him and instantly have greatly improved chances to win.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#1040 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:57 am

rate_ wrote:If Bam didn't have a limited scoring arsenal, with the amount of touches and involvement he gets on offense, TBH he should be averaging 25+ pts in this scoring inflated era. We wouldn't have to be so reliant on Strus hitting his threes if Bam had the arsenal and repertoire to take the usage away from him. Bam is easier to scheme for because of this and on top of that he isn't a bruiser like Jimmy. He looks to avoid contact instead of initiate it. So, stop trying to make him into something he is not and let him focus on defense. a


There are 4 players in the league averaging more points than Bam on less shot attempts. Let’s stop acting like he’s out here jacking up shots and hijacking the offense. For his FGA and usage he’s about right where he should be. His usage has went up .9% this season. You’re grasping for straws.
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