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RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Lakers (Sund, 3:30PM EST)

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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Lakers (Sund, 3:30PM EST) 

Post#141 » by Apz » Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:38 am

Didnt start watchibg til it were like 3min to halftime, and had to alt tab a lot during it because starttime and work. But from what i saw im happy i didnt watch it
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Lakers (Sund, 3:30PM EST) 

Post#142 » by Mavrelous » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:40 am

Mavs had a worse frontcourt rotation last year...
I forgot which game this was, the bench unit was on an 8-0 run, Kidd took a TO to enter Luka into the game, the opponent went on a run shortly after, yesterday, Mavs are bleeding the lead, Luka is frustrated, picks up his 3rd foul, and nada, no TO, no sub.
This is horrible management, Kidd brought the Lakers right back into the game, basic basic stuff, we went from RC, who would take a TO on 2-0 run to Kidd who doesn't take TOs at all.
Defense is a lot about attitude an effort, Luka was flying around yesterday when things were going well, Frank was doing his usual disrupt defense, the team faced a little bit adversity and they folded, this is partly on Luka who can't help letting his frustration take the best of him, but Kidd needs to intervene and calm the spirits.
I don't think Mavs are contenders, but with some luck and effort Mavs can do wonders, it has been clear since the beginning of the season, the position is way over Kidd's abilities, RC may have been an ass, but he was a tough ass, and a control freak, Mavs were stuck unable to trade for a big, but they can add a coach to help, bring Kokoskov back, Nets aren't going anywhere...
And WTF kind of statement is that he gave after the game??!!
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Lakers (Sund, 3:30PM EST) 

Post#143 » by Archx » Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:30 am

ozwizard8 wrote:For all GM ****, the responsibility is on the GM.
Wood sucks. Cant play defense. Politics would be more related to our FO not extending him and probably not wanting Wood to gain too much value. Nico put Mavs into a LOSE-LOSE position. Overpay or lose him. Any case not helping Win games.


Kidd is so incredibly frustrating and dumb that he's slowly turning me into being a primary a Nuggets fan. I have never felt same frustrations about any team before. Not even when they were screwing up Dirk in his best years. But this guy is beyond pathetic.

Dude refuses to play Green after having some off shooting nights and plays Holiday because he had a great game vs the worst and tanking team in the league.

Wood doesn't suck but he's also put in a position to fail to begin with. He's awesome as a PnR guy. Watch how many times he screens for Luka and ends up completely alone. He's a threat from anywhere on the floor, Kidd should exploit that, giving Kyrie and Luka another dimension on offense. But obviously he prefers to play Powell who is horrible on defense, rebounding and has worse hands on offense than Kwame Brown.

I'm also 100% sure Wood would do better on defense if Kidd had any plan and solid rotations to help out etc.. Remember, he threw Wood under the bus before he got any real minutes earlier in the season, then Wood showed what he can really do and he was actually forced to play him in the starting lineup. He did great on both ends, had also one of the highest On/Off numbers on the team. I think he's also the highest "point per minute" production player in the league.

Simply put, Kidd is lost in space and has no clue what to do with this team and takes zero responsibilities. Luka again took the blame for this loss, well as he should, he was horrible in the 2nd half. But don't tell me that Kidd was anything better.

If any coach in EU would say something like that, he would have been fired on the spot. I mean wtf even is this quote?

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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Lakers (Sund, 3:30PM EST) 

Post#144 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:16 pm

I've never read something like this. Never.

We have 2 options... He is drunk or it is a message to Cuban.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Lakers (Sund, 3:30PM EST) 

Post#145 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:22 pm

And Wood can't play defense is false, he is not Davis but he played well against him tonight.
Powell can't play defense. Wood is just mediocre.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Lakers (Sund, 3:30PM EST) 

Post#146 » by Captain_Obvious » Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:06 pm

When Kidd said this is Luka's team he certainly didn't predict how the team performs with Kyrie vs Luka. Dallas certainly looks like Kyrie's team with Luka being busy throwing away leads.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Lakers (Sund, 3:30PM EST) 

Post#147 » by arkuo » Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:30 pm

You're all forgetting the fact that Vanderbilt put the clamps on Luka. He needs to get credit for that. And Luka needs to figure out a counter to lengthy athletic defenders because his 1 inch vertical leap doesn't compensate for all the crossovers and spin moves he does. 2 Luka steps = 1 Vanderbilt step.

Also, Luka needs to stop complaining all the time. Yeah its been 5 years.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Lakers (Sund, 3:30PM EST) 

Post#148 » by BliscoSantos » Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:45 pm

arkuo wrote:You're all forgetting the fact that Vanderbilt put the clamps on Luka. He needs to get credit for that. And Luka needs to figure out a counter to lengthy athletic defenders because his 1 inch vertical leap doesn't compensate for all the crossovers and spin moves he does. 2 Luka steps = 1 Vanderbilt step.

Also, Luka needs to stop complaining all the time. Yeah its been 5 years.


Completely agree with the Luka needs to stop complaining...last year Kidd tried to make him understand to concentrate on game ,not the officiating, and for a while in his interwievs je even Said it himself he needs to control his emotions...for a while it even looked like he changed,he didn't complain as much,was more focused...this season Just looks like he regressed back into the bad habits,instead of improving...don't know what caused the regression,but they need to call him out...the constant whining iz putting a crybaby stamp on him on the officials and Players in the league...yeah, they get physical with you,you're not getting calls,but Man up,forget ,Play hard ,earn their respect...Woody Harrelson Said it Best in Zombieland NUT UP OR SHUT UP
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Lakers (Sund, 3:30PM EST) 

Post#149 » by BliscoSantos » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:28 pm

Kidd's rotations are horrible...Hardy needs to get playing time(he Said it himself) and you can't find minutes for him up 27..Holliday starting,because he played good the first game...Powell getting destroyed, doesn't give a minute to McGee..too few minutes of Luka,KAI and Wood together...it's like he's still trying to find a unit that works,and it's march already,season is almost over...what the hell are you doing...the Players are limited,try making it work with the Best you Got...start:
Luka PG(defends the wing Player)
KAI SG(defends PG)
Green SF (defends SG),some games Bullock starts
Wood PF(defends PF)
McGee C(defends C)..depending on matchup Powell

Maxi Will have to be slowly brought back,cause he was gone a Long time...he'll need time
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Lakers (Sund, 3:30PM EST) 

Post#150 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:36 pm

We are not a great defensive team but being undesized every **** game doesn't help for sure.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Lakers (Sund, 3:30PM EST) 

Post#151 » by XTraderXL » Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:02 am

Captain_Obvious wrote:When Kidd said this is Luka's team he certainly didn't predict how the team performs with Kyrie vs Luka. Dallas certainly looks like Kyrie's team with Luka being busy throwing away leads.



Yep, it is pretty clear thats the case. The players look totally different playing with Kyrie than with Luka. Its amazing to watch. They have more energy, they play harder on both ends. Kyrie has been way more valuable than Luka since he arrived. I am beginning to think Doncic cant coexist with another superstar, he is too heliocentric. I definitely wouldnt want to play with a player like him if him hogging the ball limited my abilities by 50%.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Lakers (Sund, 3:30PM EST) 

Post#152 » by ozwizard8 » Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:26 am

Archx wrote:
ozwizard8 wrote:For all GM ****, the responsibility is on the GM.
Wood sucks. Cant play defense. Politics would be more related to our FO not extending him and probably not wanting Wood to gain too much value. Nico put Mavs into a LOSE-LOSE position. Overpay or lose him. Any case not helping Win games.


Kidd is so incredibly frustrating and dumb that he's slowly turning me into being a primary a Nuggets fan. I have never felt same frustrations about any team before. Not even when they were screwing up Dirk in his best years. But this guy is beyond pathetic.

Dude refuses to play Green after having some off shooting nights and plays Holiday because he had a great game vs the worst and tanking team in the league.

Wood doesn't suck but he's also put in a position to fail to begin with. He's awesome as a PnR guy. Watch how many times he screens for Luka and ends up completely alone. He's a threat from anywhere on the floor, Kidd should exploit that, giving Kyrie and Luka another dimension on offense. But obviously he prefers to play Powell who is horrible on defense, rebounding and has worse hands on offense than Kwame Brown.

I'm also 100% sure Wood would do better on defense if Kidd had any plan and solid rotations to help out etc.. Remember, he threw Wood under the bus before he got any real minutes earlier in the season, then Wood showed what he can really do and he was actually forced to play him in the starting lineup. He did great on both ends, had also one of the highest On/Off numbers on the team. I think he's also the highest "point per minute" production player in the league.

Simply put, Kidd is lost in space and has no clue what to do with this team and takes zero responsibilities. Luka again took the blame for this loss, well as he should, he was horrible in the 2nd half. But don't tell me that Kidd was anything better.

If any coach in EU would say something like that, he would have been fired on the spot. I mean wtf even is this quote?

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In Europe coaches would put players under the bus in front of all the crowd and media. Really dont be so soft like this. Wood sucks on defense. He sleeps almost all the time. His awareness is so low. Cant follow his player around most of the time, let alone offering help defense. Very poor positioning, defensive BBIQ, and almost no instincts.

Wood is like 2/10 defensively. If he was 5/10, he would be playing as a starter and getting paid max money. There is a reason he is going around the teams every ****' year. Whiteside type of attitude. Probably not a bright guy. I am not sure if you can teach him defense.

I heard this not playing p&r stuff during Carlisle time too. They play whatever play is effective. If Wood was finishing at elite level, and always setting solid screens and running at the right time then Luka would find him. But its either Wood's screens are not good and bring traps to Luka, or Wood is lazy to get those entry passes. Wood is better than Powell on offense for sure. That does not mean he is playing better.

Wood against starting units << Wood against bench.
- Focused defense usually takes Wood's efficiency out.
- Tons of turnovers
- Not following offensive or defensive sets.

You know how would Wood look better? If Mavs kept DFS and added Vander Bilt and Bridges.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Lakers (Sund, 3:30PM EST) 

Post#153 » by arkuo » Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:14 am

XTraderXL wrote:
Captain_Obvious wrote:When Kidd said this is Luka's team he certainly didn't predict how the team performs with Kyrie vs Luka. Dallas certainly looks like Kyrie's team with Luka being busy throwing away leads.



Yep, it is pretty clear thats the case. The players look totally different playing with Kyrie than with Luka. Its amazing to watch. They have more energy, they play harder on both ends. Kyrie has been way more valuable than Luka since he arrived. I am beginning to think Doncic cant coexist with another superstar, he is too heliocentric. I definitely wouldnt want to play with a player like him if him hogging the ball limited my abilities by 50%.


This is what I've been saying from the start. Heliocentric basketball doesn't work. Of course you're getting 40 point triple doubles if you handle the ball 19 seconds out of every 24 second shot clock. But when you inject another star to the team, it would be difficult to adjust. Luka should watch James Harden adjust to Embiid and move without the ball.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Lakers (Sund, 3:30PM EST) 

Post#154 » by Archx » Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:40 pm

ozwizard8 wrote:Wood is like 2/10 defensively. If he was 5/10, he would be playing as a starter and getting paid max money. There is a reason he is going around the teams every ****' year. Whiteside type of attitude. Probably not a bright guy. I am not sure if you can teach him defense.


Doesn't really matter if Powell is 1/10 on defense and 1/10 on offense. Wood produces a lot more on defense and offense than Powell for example. There is no argument that Wood plays such limited minutes. And Green aswell for that matter. Kidd has no clue what he's doing and that's a fact. More and more people are calling him out now.

Wood brings completely different dynamic and threat to their offense. Powell gets scored on by smaller guards and wings, at least Wood can block shots.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Lakers (Sund, 3:30PM EST) 

Post#155 » by ozwizard8 » Wed Mar 1, 2023 6:16 am

Archx wrote:
ozwizard8 wrote:Wood is like 2/10 defensively. If he was 5/10, he would be playing as a starter and getting paid max money. There is a reason he is going around the teams every ****' year. Whiteside type of attitude. Probably not a bright guy. I am not sure if you can teach him defense.


Doesn't really matter if Powell is 1/10 on defense and 1/10 on offense. Wood produces a lot more on defense and offense than Powell for example. There is no argument that Wood plays such limited minutes. And Green aswell for that matter. Kidd has no clue what he's doing and that's a fact. More and more people are calling him out now.

Wood brings completely different dynamic and threat to their offense. Powell gets scored on by smaller guards and wings, at least Wood can block shots.

What a BS.
Wood is terrible on defense by all counts. Did you watch Pacers game for your answer.
Really shameful remarks.

Powell is an average defender and Wood is a terrible one. Everyone in the league knows this.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Lakers (Sund, 3:30PM EST) 

Post#156 » by Archx » Wed Mar 1, 2023 11:25 am

ozwizard8 wrote:
Archx wrote:
ozwizard8 wrote:Wood is like 2/10 defensively. If he was 5/10, he would be playing as a starter and getting paid max money. There is a reason he is going around the teams every ****' year. Whiteside type of attitude. Probably not a bright guy. I am not sure if you can teach him defense.


Doesn't really matter if Powell is 1/10 on defense and 1/10 on offense. Wood produces a lot more on defense and offense than Powell for example. There is no argument that Wood plays such limited minutes. And Green aswell for that matter. Kidd has no clue what he's doing and that's a fact. More and more people are calling him out now.

Wood brings completely different dynamic and threat to their offense. Powell gets scored on by smaller guards and wings, at least Wood can block shots.

What a BS.
Wood is terrible on defense by all counts. Did you watch Pacers game for your answer.
Really shameful remarks.

Powell is an average defender and Wood is a terrible one. Everyone in the league knows this.


Nitpicking one game. I did watch the Pacers game and Powell was beyond horrible. He's disgusting on offense and has no ability to stop any smaller players on defense.
Rick exploited him early in the game by putting him in the PnR situation and simply attacking him. On offense, his defender doubled Luka or simply backed way off because he has no game on offense and is a no threat. Simple concept yet effective.

Powell also defends 3% worse around the rim than Wood. 63% to 60%. Wood is the best Mavs defender around the rim along with McGee, % wise. I know it's not a groundbreaking number but like i said, at least Wood brings offense with him aswell.

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