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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#21 » by mattao313 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:39 pm

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The-Power wrote:He gets to the line at a fine right I'd say. Keep in mind that the G-League rule of shooting only one FT (for two or three points) for the most of the game means you cannot directly compare it to NBA numbers. Maybe someone has access to his FTr after adjusting for this rule.

As for finishing, do you have the synergy numbers at hand (overall and adjusted for half-court only, ideally compared to league average)? According to the official website, Scoot shoots 60% within 5ft. That looks fine at first glance for a Guard but I'd need more context to properly evaluate it.

I agree, however, that his shot profile is clearly not ideal at this point.
Yeah I think it was like 61% in the restricted area which isn't bad or anything but for someone who is an elite athlete it's not impressive at all. I think he is a good prospect but don't think he's lock in at 2.

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Who do you have ahead or at least consider ahead of him? I can see Miller and actually lean that way by now. But anyone else? I think that would be a very hard sell at this point.
I think miller is closing the gap right now. If a team took him 2 I wouldn't be mad at them.

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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#22 » by EvanZ » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:24 pm

I'm not sure Scoot is as good a prospect as Mike Conley was.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#23 » by Big J » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:29 pm

He reminds me of Westbrook. Elite talent, but not the kind of guy you want to build your team around.
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Post#24 » by reanimator » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:30 pm

EvanZ wrote:I'm not sure Scoot is as good a prospect as Mike Conley was.


Where are the concerns?
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#25 » by EvanZ » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:41 pm

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EvanZ wrote:I'm not sure Scoot is as good a prospect as Mike Conley was.


Where are the concerns?


Not even that worried about the shooting tbh. I think his athleticism and burst are being overrated. Westbrook? LMAO not even close. He's not Wall. He's not even Fox. I think he's pretty similar athletically to Conley, which is fine. But Conley was ahead of him as a point guard.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#26 » by Big J » Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:20 pm

His shooting and shot selection remind me of Westbrook, not his burst.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#27 » by crows2 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:01 pm

EvanZ wrote:
reanimator wrote:
EvanZ wrote:I'm not sure Scoot is as good a prospect as Mike Conley was.


Where are the concerns?


Not even that worried about the shooting tbh. I think his athleticism and burst are being overrated. Westbrook? LMAO not even close. He's not Wall. He's not even Fox. I think he's pretty similar athletically to Conley, which is fine. But Conley was ahead of him as a point guard.


I still have Scoot firmly as number 2, but I have always thought his athleticism was slightly overrated. I don't see him as this "quickest player in the league" type that he's being advertised as.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#28 » by SeattleJazzFan » Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:05 pm

EvanZ wrote:
reanimator wrote:
EvanZ wrote:I'm not sure Scoot is as good a prospect as Mike Conley was.


Where are the concerns?


Not even that worried about the shooting tbh. I think his athleticism and burst are being overrated. Westbrook? LMAO not even close. He's not Wall. He's not even Fox. I think he's pretty similar athletically to Conley, which is fine. But Conley was ahead of him as a point guard.


this is pretty special athleticism.

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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#29 » by EvanZ » Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:17 pm

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Where are the concerns?


Not even that worried about the shooting tbh. I think his athleticism and burst are being overrated. Westbrook? LMAO not even close. He's not Wall. He's not even Fox. I think he's pretty similar athletically to Conley, which is fine. But Conley was ahead of him as a point guard.


this is pretty special athleticism.



Yeah dude I've seen guys dunk. A couple highlight dunks doesn't make him a special athlete. I do like his big hands though.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#30 » by reanimator » Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:19 pm

EvanZ wrote:
reanimator wrote:
EvanZ wrote:I'm not sure Scoot is as good a prospect as Mike Conley was.


Where are the concerns?


Not even that worried about the shooting tbh. I think his athleticism and burst are being overrated. Westbrook? LMAO not even close. He's not Wall. He's not even Fox. I think he's pretty similar athletically to Conley, which is fine. But Conley was ahead of him as a point guard.


Yeah, I think he is a significantly better open floor athlete than Conley but I don't disagree in the halfcourt they are functionally the same. I think some of that is also just an advanced understanding for his age that its better to play under control. Not sure I see any meaningful distinction as passers, but I will say Scoot is much further along getting to his pull up and scoring at the same age. Conley had outlier development as a 3 pt shooter and was a plus defender and I'm not sure Scoot holds up to him that regard but I think he will be league average 3 pt shooter, net neutral defender.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#31 » by reanimator » Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:20 pm

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EvanZ wrote:
reanimator wrote:
Where are the concerns?


Not even that worried about the shooting tbh. I think his athleticism and burst are being overrated. Westbrook? LMAO not even close. He's not Wall. He's not even Fox. I think he's pretty similar athletically to Conley, which is fine. But Conley was ahead of him as a point guard.


this is pretty special athleticism.



Yeah in the open floor, he will be a terror.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#32 » by clyde21 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:52 pm

he's a pretty ridiculous athlete not sure how people can say otherwise, it's a little deceptive because he's not as wiry as someone like Ja so his athleticism looks a little less explosive but his athleticism, explosiveness and speed combo at his size/strength ratio is absurd. his speed to power as well is elite. he can generate power in ways Ja can't similar to Russ.

Ja is the straightforward comp tho, a little lazy comp but it makes sense if we are gonna comp him to an active player, like I said Ja is a bit more wiry but Scoot's stronger, but overall they're essentially the same exact archetype with some of the same strengths/weaknesses coming out.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#33 » by SeattleJazzFan » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:16 pm

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Not even that worried about the shooting tbh. I think his athleticism and burst are being overrated. Westbrook? LMAO not even close. He's not Wall. He's not even Fox. I think he's pretty similar athletically to Conley, which is fine. But Conley was ahead of him as a point guard.


this is pretty special athleticism.



Yeah dude I've seen guys dunk. A couple highlight dunks doesn't make him a special athlete. I do like his big hands though.


yes, you've seen guys dunk. the only 6'2 and under guys you've seen dunk like that are elite athletes.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#34 » by EvanZ » Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:23 pm

Literally just saw Mac McClung. He’s a great dunker but not elite in game athleticism.


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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#35 » by JMAC3 » Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:45 am

SeattleJazzFan wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
reanimator wrote:
Where are the concerns?


Not even that worried about the shooting tbh. I think his athleticism and burst are being overrated. Westbrook? LMAO not even close. He's not Wall. He's not even Fox. I think he's pretty similar athletically to Conley, which is fine. But Conley was ahead of him as a point guard.


this is pretty special athleticism.



This dunk is amazing, but I am kind of tired of seeing it every time his athleticism is brought up. This is an outlier play for him, he has no dunk all season or last season that even remotely compares to this. If you were to compare Ja 10 dunks from the last 2 months to Scoot best ten dunks the last two years. Ja is making up probably 8 or 9 of the top 10 out of the top 20 dunks. They are not the same level of athlete.

Ja is top 1%. Scoot is athletic, don't get me wrong but he is probably closer to a top 10% athlete like a Dennis Smith or Cole Anthony type. I am not even sure Scoot is as athletic as Donovan Mitchell.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#36 » by shotsquatch » Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:54 pm

Scoot's frame and athleticism are elite for his position. He's built like a running-back.

It's hard to judge Ignite prospects. On the one hand, he's a 19 year old showing out against real pro players. G League talent is significantly better than the NCAA. On the other hand, Jaylen Green :banghead:

Scoot has the tools. It's going to come down to character.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#37 » by reanimator » Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:14 pm

JMAC3 wrote:This is an outlier play for him, he has no dunk all season or last season that even remotely compares to this.


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Scoot being a blur and finishing powerfully through or around contact in the open floor isn't some anomaly.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#38 » by EvanZ » Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:04 pm

I mean you just posted 3 videos, one from 2021 and 2 from 2022. I was watching some highlights from a single game the other day and didn't see anything special.

Y'all remember Harrison Barnes' dunk against Pekovic? Yeah I still do. But it didn't represent how he played in games 99% of the time. I'm not saying Scoot is a bad athlete, far from it. But I think it's fair to say his athleticism is overrated at this point by 99% of draft "analysts" out there.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#39 » by reanimator » Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:50 pm

I mean he had an open floor breakaway dunk just last night. Does anyone have the data on how many dunks he has this year? I suspect it isn't some rarity. Only specifically talking about in the open court, I am not sure how his athleticism can be questioned.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#40 » by EvanZ » Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:52 pm

reanimator wrote:I mean he had an open floor breakaway dunk just last night. Does anyone have the data on how many dunks he has this year? I suspect it isn't some rarity. Only specifically talking about in the open court, I am not sure how his athleticism can be questioned.


Yeah someone told me he has 16 dunks which is actually really good, but I honestly must have seen every game where he didn't dunk. :lol:

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