2022-2023 Regular Season Game 63: Orlando Magic (26-36) at Milwaukee Bucks (44-17) - 8pm

[MasterGMer]

And yes, the Bucks were abnormally hot tonight, but even if they had shot their season average which is 36% from 3PT, they still would have made 20 threes and scored 121 points, enough to win.

3PT volume matters. If your opponent is ATTEMPTING 23 more threes than you are, you're almost always going to lose the game.

The volume of Bucks 3s matters. But we have won majority of other aspects of the game tonight. Scoring in the paint, offensive rebounding, getting to the foul line.

Magic's game plan was to clog the paint and we did so. If that was the case, we were going to give up a lot of 3s and that was reasonable. However, second chance points and TOs are the difference of the game despite their hot shooting.

We should get it back next Tuesday and to see how good this squad really is for the Magic.

[fendilim]

And yes, the Bucks were abnormally hot tonight, but even if they had shot their season average which is 36% from 3PT, they still would have made 20 threes and scored 121 points, enough to win.

3PT volume matters. If your opponent is ATTEMPTING 23 more threes than you are, you're almost always going to lose the game.

The volume of Bucks 3s matters. But we have won majority of other aspects of the game tonight. Scoring in the paint, offensive rebounding, getting to the foul line.

Magic's game plan was to clog the paint and we did so. If that was the case, we were going to give up a lot of 3s and that was reasonable. However, second chance points and TOs are the difference of the game despite their hot shooting.

We should get it back next Tuesday and to see how good this squad really is for the Magic.

3 points will always be more than 2points.

Them making that much 3s against our team is just too much for us to handle

[j_n]

Paolo's free throw attempts by Month
Oct 8.6
Nov 8.4
Dec 7.3
Jan 7.5
Feb 6.9

In a *completely* unrelated note, Markelle Fultz made his season debut on… *checks notes* November 30th.

Since we're taking unrelated notes, what's our win percentage before and after said debut?

[pepe1991]

Everything wrong with Magic offense in one picture.

Yes he made it, but teams know he can't punish them with accuracy nor volumen, so they tend to play Magic in similar fashion.

[drsd]

Bucks are on a 16 game win streak, the Magic will be fine lol.

A great team at home beat a mediocre road team. Where is the shock here?

I will not lose sleep that the Magic lost a game that Vegas had Orlando projected to lose by 10.

[Rainwater]

Paolo's free throw attempts by Month
Oct 8.6
Nov 8.4
Dec 7.3
Jan 7.5
Feb 6.9

In a *completely* unrelated note, Markelle Fultz made his season debut on… *checks notes* November 30th.

Since we're taking unrelated notes, what's our win percentage before and after said debut?

Yes, the magic have been pretty much playing .500 ball since the return of Fultz which is better than then 25% win percentage they had without him. However, just looking at the early part of the magic schedule I really don't think they win much more games even if Fultz did play. The schedule was on the difficult side. They lost to teams like Philly Twice, Brooklyn, Boston, Atlanta, New York, Cleveland, Sac, Min, OKC, and Ind. Even if Fultz played these games, they aren't promised wins. At best they would be playing .500 ball during that time frame but in all likelihood they would still be a bad team with what 3,4, or 5 more wins.

[drsd]

Glass half-empty thought of the game. As usual, Orlando played 4 on 4 in the half court. This team MUST get a competent SG. AND: Suggs is incapable of playing SG on the offensive end. Stop that madness.

[drsd]

Glass half-full thoughts: the Holiday / Fultz matchup went well for Orlando, and Carter and F-Wagner had nice games.

Anthony has revealed who he is: a dynamic bench scorer. What a gem fro him this game.

[drsd]

Paolo's free throw attempts by Month
Oct 8.6
Nov 8.4
Dec 7.3
Jan 7.5
Feb 6.9

In a *completely* unrelated note, Markelle Fultz made his season debut on… *checks notes* November 30th.

Since we're taking unrelated notes, what's our win percentage before and after said debut?

Orlando was 5-16 to that point, and has gone 21-20 since. So: it was 23.8% in the first 21 games and is now 52.5% in these last 41 games.

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[drsd]

With this result, it will now be more than a month since the Magic lost 2-games in a row OR won two games in a row. That is, since 4 Feb., Orlando has alternated wins and losses without fail.

As @Charlotte is next, I do expect the pattern to continue.

[cedric76]

Everything wrong with Magic offense in one picture.

Yes he made it, but teams know he can't punish them with accuracy nor volumen, so they tend to play Magic in similar fashion.

NBA players can' make 3s when unguarded, so kelle will score them , and he did, and proved you wrong

[pepe1991]

Everything wrong with Magic offense in one picture.

Yes he made it, but teams know he can't punish them with accuracy nor volumen, so they tend to play Magic in similar fashion.

NBA players can't make 3s when unguarded, so kelle will score them , and he did, and proved you wrong

He was left like this 30 other times in same game, and proved you wrong 29 other times

He made 18 threes whole season. Dame Lillard made 56 threes in a month.

[Ducklett]

Everything wrong with Magic offense in one picture.

Yes he made it, but teams know he can't punish them with accuracy nor volumen, so they tend to play Magic in similar fashion.

NBA players can't make 3s when unguarded, so kelle will score them , and he did, and proved you wrong

He was left like this 30 other times in same game, and proved you wrong 29 other times

He made 18 threes whole season. Dame Lillard made 56 threes in a month.

And Dame hasn't won more than 5 play off series in 11 years. None of this really matters.

[pepe1991]

NBA players can't make 3s when unguarded, so kelle will score them , and he did, and proved you wrong

He was left like this 30 other times in same game, and proved you wrong 29 other times

He made 18 threes whole season. Dame Lillard made 56 threes in a month.

And Dame hasn't won more than 5 play off series in 11 years. None of this really matters.

And Fultz played in 8 playoff games in his entire career. Didn't start in 3 out of 8.

Fultz playoff stats:
8 ppg
45% TS.

Fultz playoff stats in picture




btw , weren't blazers in WCF in 2019?

[drsd]

Really confident presser from the Magic:
[youtube]

Watch on YouTube

[/youtbe]

A lot of maturity in understanding the "meaning" of this game.

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[Ducklett]

He was left like this 30 other times in same game, and proved you wrong 29 other times

He made 18 threes whole season. Dame Lillard made 56 threes in a month.

And Dame hasn't won more than 5 play off series in 11 years. None of this really matters.

And Fultz played in 8 playoff games in his entire career. Didn't start in 3 out of 8.

Fultz playoff stats:
8 ppg
45% TS.

Fultz playoff stats in picture




btw , weren't blazers in WCF in 2019?

And he hasn't won since.

And he got clapped 4-0 in those WCF.

[Ralof]

situation here is a mess,can't remember last time we had rain

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/17/italy-faces-another-year-severe-drought-little-winter-rain-snow-po-river

Hopefully that Fultz guy will be traded away from the Magic,drought is a serious problem,next summer we'll have no water,could be catastrophic

[pepe1991]

And Dame hasn't won more than 5 play off series in 11 years. None of this really matters.

And Fultz played in 8 playoff games in his entire career. Didn't start in 3 out of 8.

Fultz playoff stats:
8 ppg
45% TS.

Fultz playoff stats in picture




btw , weren't blazers in WCF in 2019?

And he hasn't won since.

And he got clapped 4-0 in those WCF.

* HE * didn't win series. Those are standards for him. For him to win playoff series on his own (witch he did in past).

Can we name one guard in modern history who had massive sucess as team without any allstar help ?

Nobody? Even MJ was whooping bag in playoffs before Pippen. Kobe hardly made playoffs on his own.


Lillard is fine, his contract is abomination, just like any supermax .

Last championship guard who won on his own is... nobody?

I only used Lillard as most obvious exmaple how little 3s Fultz made. Lillard made 4 threes less in one month than Fultz in his entire career. Contrast is reason why i brought him. There is no Lillard vs Fultz debate. it's like comparing brad new Ferrari with old running shoes.

[Skybox]

And Dame hasn't won more than 5 play off series in 11 years. None of this really matters.

And Fultz played in 8 playoff games in his entire career. Didn't start in 3 out of 8.

Fultz playoff stats:
8 ppg
45% TS.

Fultz playoff stats in picture




btw , weren't blazers in WCF in 2019?

And he hasn't won since.

And he got clapped 4-0 in those WCF.

You should lose your posting rights for even engaging a Dame vs Fultz offensive back and forth. We get it, you like Fultz…but comparing him to Dame (or FVV) is ludicrous. Just another case of arguing for the sake of arguing. Being “loyal” rather than remotely realistic.

[Skybox]

mIL is an interesting parallel. Giannis pounds his way to the rim over and over (and the line). We’ve got our two best guys who largely do the same. 2 STARTERS didn’t even attempt a shot inside 3 and one other STARTER took far more 3’s than 2’s. One other 20 minute rotation guy only shot 3’s. Also, leading minutes guy off the bench took more 3’s than 2’s….IF YOUR PRIMARY OFFENSIVE PLAYER(s) IS A TANK, YOU MUST PROVIDE AIR SUPPORT. PERIOD.

If Fultz is our guy, fine…but get rid of Paolo then

Only upgrading at 2 is not going to do it…that’s not a solution, it’s a half-ass compromise. Hopefully our coaching staff is taking notes while getting blown out by “limited” role players BURYING their team.