Jamahl Mosley’s Defensive System

If we could just get a little perimeter ball movement and cutters on the other end...we've got something. Good to see - I have no problem with defense coming first, that is a more coachable thing to get a team competitive...looking forward to phase II, "not just handing it to a 6'10 guy to make something happen". Good to see Coach Mose getting some credit for the progress.

VFX · Post #8 » by **VFX** » Thu Mar 2, 2023 2:04 am

I guess the “pinnacle of defensive strategy” also involves consistently going under screens and switching into one sided mismatch situations on the perimeter.

Post #9 » by **SOUL** » Thu Mar 2, 2023 2:06 am

MagicMatic wrote:I guess the “pinnacle of defensive strategy” also involves consistently going under screens and switching into one sided mismatch situations on the perimeter.

Our defense is solid. We can nitpick but every team will have holes unless you literally have the 2000s Detroit personnel and schemes.

ogmagicfan · Post #10 » by **ogmagicfan** » Thu Mar 2, 2023 2:28 am

SOUL wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:I guess the “pinnacle of defensive strategy” also involves consistently going under screens and switching into one sided mismatch situations on the perimeter.

Our defense is solid. We can nitpick but every team will have holes unless you literally have the 2000s Detroit personnel and schemes.

Also we got young players taking up almost all our mins yet they're boding pretty well in a very active and complex defense

I'm sure he'll make adjustments over time to better it also

drsd · Post #11 » by **drsd** » Thu Mar 2, 2023 7:43 am

Jamahl Mosley’s Defensive System

On the day all these Mosley stories came out from various media outlets, Orlando gives up 26 made 3-balls. Sad.

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pepe1991 · Post #12 » by **pepe1991** » Thu Mar 2, 2023 8:53 am

Lot of words to describe 18th ranked defense and 25th offense with 26th net rating.

Cherrypicking when " it mattered" and where it "didn't mattered" *insert random excuse why here _____ * to make points about defense or offense is silly.
Net rating vise, Bulls are 5th best team in last 15 games, Knicks are 3rd.

In last 5 games, Knicks are clean cut favorites for title.

Current roster isn't build to be world beaters on defense and it lacks spacing, experience, quality guards and better scheme to be world beater on offense. It's probably next big step for Orlando. Find out what they are and who they are. Tbh i don't think Magic can be some smash mouth defense with Banchero and Franz. They aren't that guys. There is nothing goonish about them.

fendilim · Post #13 » by **fendilim** » Thu Mar 2, 2023 9:56 am

Good defense, bad offense.

Bergmaniac · Post #14 » by **Bergmaniac** » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:33 pm

Is this guy paid by Mosley's agent or something? Such over the top hype. You'd think Mosley is the coach of the 2004 Pistons and not of an average defensive team. The defense has been very good for such a young team, but nowhere near good enough for this amount of hype.

We also give the third most wide open 3s in the league , so I don't know where "ORL constantly defend shooters on the perimeter comes from".

The emergence of shots casted from all spots & distances has started to come at an unimaginable volume.

This sounds like an bad AI translation, LOL.

VFX · Post #15 » by **VFX** » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:52 pm

Bergmaniac wrote:Is this guy paid by Mosley's agent or something? Such over the top hype. You'd think Mosley is the coach of the 2004 Pistons and not of an average defensive team. The defense has been very good for such a young team, but nowhere near good enough for this amount of hype.

We also give the third most wide open 3s in the league , so I don't know where "ORL constantly defend shooters on the perimeter comes from".

The emergence of shots casted from all spots & distances has started to come at an unimaginable volume.

This sounds like an bad AI translation, LOL.

I thought the same.

Sure, the defense is greatly improved considering the youth and talent Orlando has on the roster.

I just don’t know how much of that is Mosely’s “system”. It’s not like it could have been far worse with Fournier/AG/Vuc and Isaac is still on limited minutes.

Post #16 » by **Def Swami** » Thu Mar 2, 2023 7:40 pm

I was pretty pro-Mosely by the end of last season, and I'm even more so this season.

I agree with most of the points in the tweet thread. The team took real steps forward on defense. Can there be fine tuning? Sure. When I looked at the stats last week, the Magic were actually 10th in defensive rating (they've obviously taken a dip since then). We're 16th in defensive efficiency today. We're probably closer to an overall average defense in the NBA. That's real progress for a team that is playing mostly a bunch of guys who are 23 years old and younger. The team has been pretty good on defense since they've had their full cast back (hence, why December 7th was "cherry-picked" as a date). Given all our length and speed, the team is smart to load up strong side and play a pseudo zone on the weak side. It's allowed guys like Fultz and Suggs to press up and wreak havoc and have guys aggressively pick off passes over the paint and across the floor. For a team that doesn't have a lot of offensive talent, using the defense to get more points in transition has been the right ethos.

Offensively, I think Mosely has some really good sets. I actually think this team has more interesting and complex plays than whatever was happening under Steve Clifford and Frank Vogel. They're not particularly efficient yet, but ATO plays have been interesting and you can at least see the attempt to get guys good looks in their spots. The offense will always be limited by nature of how inefficient our backcourt is and the general overall lack of shooting. On the bright side, we're actually 4th in free throw attempts/game, ending a woeful streak of being in the bottom 3rd for almost a decade (thanks, Paolo!).

More importantly, the team really bought into Mosely. They play hard every night. It was the first thing that impressed me last season. The team was still playing hard in March and April despite being way out of the playoff race. And they're still committed this season.

I think fans are usually way over critical of coaches. Even Clifford and Vogel, as frustrating as they were, it felt like a lot of their options were lose-lose simply based on roster construction. Could Mosely tighten up the rotations better so that Paolo and Franz are playing a few more 4th quarter minutes together? Absolutely. But, from a schematic standpoint and getting his team to buy into it, I think he's been pretty solid. I've rarely watched games this year and thought, we lost the game tonight because of Mosely.

Is he a top 10 coach in the league? No chance. But we could do a whole lot worse for a rebuilding team. Go watch Houston for a few minutes and you'll see a real trainwreck.

KillMonger · Post #17 » by **KillMonger** » Thu Mar 2, 2023 11:08 pm

Improved from the start of the season that's for sure but still needs to be tweaked imo.....certain aspects need to be reviewed and us switching for no reason needs to be near the top of that list

jezzerinho · Post #18 » by **jezzerinho** » Fri Mar 3, 2023 6:35 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Lot of words to describe 18th ranked defense and 25th offense with 26th net rating.

Cherrypicking when " it mattered" and where it "didn't mattered" *insert random excuse why here _____ * to make points about defense or offense is silly.
Net rating vise, Bulls are 5th best team in last 15 games, Knicks are 3rd.

In last 5 games, Knicks are clean cut favorites for title.

Current roster isn't build to be world beaters on defense and it lacks spacing, experience, quality guards and better scheme to be world beater on offense. It's probably next big step for Orlando. Find out what they are and who they are. Tbh i don't think Magic can be some smash mouth defense with Banchero and Franz. They aren't that guys. There is nothing goonish about them.

What he's achieving he's doing with such defensive colossus' as Mo Wagner, Cole Anthony, Bol Bol, Markelle Fultz and Paolo Banchero on the roster. These are not guys whose contribution is on the defensive side.

Franz, Suggs, Harris, JI and Bitadze give you defensive tools dotted through the lineups. Paolo and Fultz have flashes. But this is no goon squad. They're achieving something very respectable on D through effort, length and Moselys scheme.

Post #19 » by **Def Swami** » Fri Mar 3, 2023 9:09 pm

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