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Post#181 » by NapoleonII » Thu Mar 2, 2023 2:14 pm

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insomniac00 wrote:Just my two cents: Garbage time is never the time to try to build chemistry. Suffer an injury there and fans will be livid and Monty will get the blame.

Having said that, great game.


I was 8 rows behind the Suns bench and yelled at Monty to pull the starters with around 90 seconds left. Not that I would have expected him to acknowledge or do anything but I know he heard me. Dude played a dangerous game leaving them out there.


A dangerous game? Give me a break lol.

Players can play, KD was still sub-30 minutes.

I see that Monty is the latest guy to bash around here.
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Post#182 » by POLI » Thu Mar 2, 2023 2:35 pm

What I have seen in the game:

- The influence of KD in the actions and intensity of the rest of the players has been great.
- I have observed that he is very commited to the team and the group.
- His influence in off is not just his shots, but all the attraction he makes on the def team.
- In def he is much more important than thought.


Anyway, I would have liked to see him sharing more the court with more bigs. I do not like him playing PF, but SF. I believe the ideal player to share court with him is Craig. Warren is ok too. I cannot se Okogie being the player to share the court with him.

Starters should be Paul-Booker-KD-Craig-Ayton
Then Payne-Lee/Okogie-Ross-Warren-Landale

By the way, I like more and more the role and intensity (sic) of Ayton.
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Post#183 » by Jdiddy701 » Thu Mar 2, 2023 2:41 pm

NapoleonII wrote:
King4Day wrote:
insomniac00 wrote:Just my two cents: Garbage time is never the time to try to build chemistry. Suffer an injury there and fans will be livid and Monty will get the blame.

Having said that, great game.


I was 8 rows behind the Suns bench and yelled at Monty to pull the starters with around 90 seconds left. Not that I would have expected him to acknowledge or do anything but I know he heard me. Dude played a dangerous game leaving them out there.


A dangerous game? Give me a break lol.

Players can play, KD was still sub-30 minutes.

I see that Monty is the latest guy to bash around here.

Right! It’s super hard to read nowadays. Not just on this board but everywhere someone is blaming Monty for something - rotations, minutes, timeouts. But then I go on other boards with great teams and everyone is bashing their head coach, too. It’s crazy how everyone on the internet is qualified to be a head coach.

Rotations will be definitely be tough. I feel like everyone has earned their minutes. There will be players that just won’t play. Not enough minutes for everyone. TJ Warren is a guy I really want to watch more but he hasn’t shown that he deserves the minutes.

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Post#184 » by starbosa10 » Thu Mar 2, 2023 2:54 pm

Jdiddy701 wrote:
NapoleonII wrote:
King4Day wrote:
I was 8 rows behind the Suns bench and yelled at Monty to pull the starters with around 90 seconds left. Not that I would have expected him to acknowledge or do anything but I know he heard me. Dude played a dangerous game leaving them out there.


A dangerous game? Give me a break lol.

Players can play, KD was still sub-30 minutes.

I see that Monty is the latest guy to bash around here.

Right! It’s super hard to read nowadays. Not just on this board but everywhere someone is blaming Monty for something - rotations, minutes, timeouts. But then I go on other boards with great teams and everyone is bashing their head coach, too. It’s crazy how everyone on the internet is qualified to be a head coach.

Rotations will be definitely be tough. I feel like everyone has earned their minutes. There will be players that just won’t play. Not enough minutes for everyone. TJ Warren is a guy I really want to watch more but he hasn’t shown that he deserves the minutes.

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I feel a lot fanbases like you said will almost always complain about their head coaches. I was at a sweet sixteen game once and a pair of UNC fans were moaning about Roy Williams. I don't even like UNC but he's a hall of famer and these two randoms in the stands thought they knew better lol
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Post#185 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Thu Mar 2, 2023 3:35 pm

1. Book may have had the stats last night, but it took all of no time to confirm that KD is the best player on this team. He's a killer.

2. Our defense is really different with KD out there. As I predicted - Ayton was allowed to switch and close harder with KD being able to pick up the big when they rotate. Our starting unit was much more aggressive on defense than I've seen pretty much all season.

3. I really liked what TJ Warren brought to the court and was very pleased to see him moving up in the rotation.

4. The big weakness on this team is Chris Paul. He's still smart and can run an offense, but he's no longer an effective scorer. He's gotten the same looks this year he's gotten his whole career, but his FG% has dipped from 42% compared to 49% last season. It wouldn't be so big a deal if his backup was reliable, but given Payne's inconsistency, I think it's safer to use him as a change-up 9th/10th man. Bottom line: defenses will dare CP3 to shoot. And Monty will play him regardless, as we know.

5. There is a danger to playing the way we plan to - not taking nearly as many threes as our opponents. Looking at box scores around the league I noticed we took the fewest of any team in the league last night. We shot 9/25. The Bucks hit 26/56 against the Magic. We ended with 105 points on 89 possessions. They ended with 139 points on 94 possessions. We were each playing a bottom feeder, and the Magic ended up with 117 points compared to Charlotte's 91, but it's hard for me to believe we're better defensively than the Bucks.

6. Is there a better backup 5 out there? Playoff opponents would be wise to try to put DA in foul trouble. The more minutes we're forced to give Landale (or Biyombo, who is the better option overall), the worse our chances.

Bottom line: I'm pretty confident going into the playoffs with this crew. Out west, we can beat anyone. In a finals series, I feel we'd have favorable odds against the Celtics. Sixers could be a problem if they emerge. But the Bucks? I fear the deer. I said it months ago. Led by the guy who will go down as the greatest power forward of all time, they should be considered the favorites to win it all.
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Post#186 » by WeekapaugGroove » Thu Mar 2, 2023 4:05 pm

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:1. Book may have had the stats last night, but it took all of no time to confirm that KD is the best player on this team. He's a killer.

2. Our defense is really different with KD out there. As I predicted - Ayton was allowed to switch and close harder with KD being able to pick up the big when they rotate. Our starting unit was much more aggressive on defense than I've seen pretty much all season.

3. I really liked what TJ Warren brought to the court and was very pleased to see him moving up in the rotation.

4. The big weakness on this team is Chris Paul. He's still smart and can run an offense, but he's no longer an effective scorer. He's gotten the same looks this year he's gotten his whole career, but his FG% has dipped from 42% compared to 49% last season. It wouldn't be so big a deal if his backup was reliable, but given Payne's inconsistency, I think it's safer to use him as a change-up 9th/10th man. Bottom line: defenses will dare CP3 to shoot. And Monty will play him regardless, as we know.

5. There is a danger to playing the way we plan to - not taking nearly as many threes as our opponents. Looking at box scores around the league I noticed we took the fewest of any team in the league last night. We shot 9/25. The Bucks hit 26/56 against the Magic. We ended with 105 points on 89 possessions. They ended with 139 points on 94 possessions. We were each playing a bottom feeder, and the Magic ended up with 117 points compared to Charlotte's 91, but it's hard for me to believe we're better defensively than the Bucks.

6. Is there a better backup 5 out there? Playoff opponents would be wise to try to put DA in foul trouble. The more minutes we're forced to give Landale (or Biyombo, who is the better option overall), the worse our chances.

Bottom line: I'm pretty confident going into the playoffs with this crew. Out west, we can beat anyone. In a finals series, I feel we'd have favorable odds against the Celtics. Sixers could be a problem if they emerge. But the Bucks? I fear the deer. I said it months ago. Led by the guy who will go down as the greatest power forward of all time, they should be considered the favorites to win it all.
Aytons never played with a secondary rim protector as good as KD. It will be interesting to watch if that impacts his game in a noticable way, like you said it should allow him to be more agressive.





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Post#187 » by NapoleonII » Thu Mar 2, 2023 4:05 pm

I agree.

It's likely Bucks vs Us.

No one in the East is stopping them, and they're the one team that can out-rebound us AND out-shoot us from three.

Bobby Portis is literally the difference maker with that team.
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Post#188 » by flagstaff » Thu Mar 2, 2023 5:29 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:Drysdale: "He does a great job of using his legs and elevating"

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Post#189 » by spanishninja » Thu Mar 2, 2023 5:30 pm

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:1. Book may have had the stats last night, but it took all of no time to confirm that KD is the best player on this team. He's a killer.

2. Our defense is really different with KD out there. As I predicted - Ayton was allowed to switch and close harder with KD being able to pick up the big when they rotate. Our starting unit was much more aggressive on defense than I've seen pretty much all season.

3. I really liked what TJ Warren brought to the court and was very pleased to see him moving up in the rotation.

4. The big weakness on this team is Chris Paul. He's still smart and can run an offense, but he's no longer an effective scorer. He's gotten the same looks this year he's gotten his whole career, but his FG% has dipped from 42% compared to 49% last season. It wouldn't be so big a deal if his backup was reliable, but given Payne's inconsistency, I think it's safer to use him as a change-up 9th/10th man. Bottom line: defenses will dare CP3 to shoot. And Monty will play him regardless, as we know.

5. There is a danger to playing the way we plan to - not taking nearly as many threes as our opponents. Looking at box scores around the league I noticed we took the fewest of any team in the league last night. We shot 9/25. The Bucks hit 26/56 against the Magic. We ended with 105 points on 89 possessions. They ended with 139 points on 94 possessions. We were each playing a bottom feeder, and the Magic ended up with 117 points compared to Charlotte's 91, but it's hard for me to believe we're better defensively than the Bucks.

6. Is there a better backup 5 out there? Playoff opponents would be wise to try to put DA in foul trouble. The more minutes we're forced to give Landale (or Biyombo, who is the better option overall), the worse our chances.

Bottom line: I'm pretty confident going into the playoffs with this crew. Out west, we can beat anyone. In a finals series, I feel we'd have favorable odds against the Celtics. Sixers could be a problem if they emerge. But the Bucks? I fear the deer. I said it months ago. Led by the guy who will go down as the greatest power forward of all time, they should be considered the favorites to win it all.


per point #1, isn't it great that a guy who up up 37/7/6 last night on great efficiency is not our best player? good problem to have.
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Post#190 » by bwgood77 » Thu Mar 2, 2023 5:50 pm

sashaturiaf wrote:Suns fans, the general view you have on your commentary team doesn't seem to be flattering. Is it because they are new or have they been pretty hopeless for a while.

Coming from the Nets who have the best commentary team in the league (Ian Eagle, Sarah Kustok and sometimes Richard Jefferson) the dropoff in quality has been noticeable. However I'm not finding the Suns broadcast to be horrible, just very generic. Tonight KDs debut was a franchise changing moment but i certainly couldn't hear the enthusiasm in their voices.


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Post#191 » by bwgood77 » Thu Mar 2, 2023 5:56 pm

Jdiddy701 wrote:
NapoleonII wrote:
King4Day wrote:
I was 8 rows behind the Suns bench and yelled at Monty to pull the starters with around 90 seconds left. Not that I would have expected him to acknowledge or do anything but I know he heard me. Dude played a dangerous game leaving them out there.


A dangerous game? Give me a break lol.

Players can play, KD was still sub-30 minutes.

I see that Monty is the latest guy to bash around here.

Right! It’s super hard to read nowadays. Not just on this board but everywhere someone is blaming Monty for something - rotations, minutes, timeouts. But then I go on other boards with great teams and everyone is bashing their head coach, too. It’s crazy how everyone on the internet is qualified to be a head coach.

Rotations will be definitely be tough. I feel like everyone has earned their minutes. There will be players that just won’t play. Not enough minutes for everyone. TJ Warren is a guy I really want to watch more but he hasn’t shown that he deserves the minutes.

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Yeah, fans of most all teams bash their coach often. Even often if they are a top tier team. There are a few who probably don't take much, if any. Pop of course....then maybe Kerr. Not sure about Nurse these days...probably some complaining. Maybe not much with Spo. Boston I would say shouldn't but Boston fans will complain about everything in sports.
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Post#192 » by bwgood77 » Thu Mar 2, 2023 6:02 pm

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:1. Book may have had the stats last night, but it took all of no time to confirm that KD is the best player on this team. He's a killer.

2. Our defense is really different with KD out there. As I predicted - Ayton was allowed to switch and close harder with KD being able to pick up the big when they rotate. Our starting unit was much more aggressive on defense than I've seen pretty much all season.

3. I really liked what TJ Warren brought to the court and was very pleased to see him moving up in the rotation.

4. The big weakness on this team is Chris Paul. He's still smart and can run an offense, but he's no longer an effective scorer. He's gotten the same looks this year he's gotten his whole career, but his FG% has dipped from 42% compared to 49% last season. It wouldn't be so big a deal if his backup was reliable, but given Payne's inconsistency, I think it's safer to use him as a change-up 9th/10th man. Bottom line: defenses will dare CP3 to shoot. And Monty will play him regardless, as we know.

5. There is a danger to playing the way we plan to - not taking nearly as many threes as our opponents. Looking at box scores around the league I noticed we took the fewest of any team in the league last night. We shot 9/25. The Bucks hit 26/56 against the Magic. We ended with 105 points on 89 possessions. They ended with 139 points on 94 possessions. We were each playing a bottom feeder, and the Magic ended up with 117 points compared to Charlotte's 91, but it's hard for me to believe we're better defensively than the Bucks.

6. Is there a better backup 5 out there? Playoff opponents would be wise to try to put DA in foul trouble. The more minutes we're forced to give Landale (or Biyombo, who is the better option overall), the worse our chances.

Bottom line: I'm pretty confident going into the playoffs with this crew. Out west, we can beat anyone. In a finals series, I feel we'd have favorable odds against the Celtics. Sixers could be a problem if they emerge. But the Bucks? I fear the deer. I said it months ago. Led by the guy who will go down as the greatest power forward of all time, they should be considered the favorites to win it all.


Yeah, I've mentioned even though we have such great midrange players, that when opponents get hot from 3, even if we are great from 2, it's just hard to keep up...just do the math.

I think Paul is much better from 3 this year too so that drop in FG% really shows how his 2pt% must have dropped drastically. He used to be in the mid 50s I think and now must be low 40s. I kept saying from game 3 on against Dallas last year something happened and he just stopped going to his midrange spots and lost that part of his game, which was the best part of his game when it came to scoring (which was elite...one of very top midrange guys in entire NBA). I still think something happened to where he can't move as well to get into spots. I think I read somewhere his hip got screwed up in that series. But he was just settling for 3s after game 2 where he had a huge game with tons from midrange....he was only scoring like 2-4 ppg from midrange from game 3 on..and suddenly was playing like a floor spreader for the first time I remembered. And it's largely been the same.
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Post#193 » by Jesus_H_Macy » Thu Mar 2, 2023 6:53 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:1. Book may have had the stats last night, but it took all of no time to confirm that KD is the best player on this team. He's a killer.

2. Our defense is really different with KD out there. As I predicted - Ayton was allowed to switch and close harder with KD being able to pick up the big when they rotate. Our starting unit was much more aggressive on defense than I've seen pretty much all season.

3. I really liked what TJ Warren brought to the court and was very pleased to see him moving up in the rotation.

4. The big weakness on this team is Chris Paul. He's still smart and can run an offense, but he's no longer an effective scorer. He's gotten the same looks this year he's gotten his whole career, but his FG% has dipped from 42% compared to 49% last season. It wouldn't be so big a deal if his backup was reliable, but given Payne's inconsistency, I think it's safer to use him as a change-up 9th/10th man. Bottom line: defenses will dare CP3 to shoot. And Monty will play him regardless, as we know.

5. There is a danger to playing the way we plan to - not taking nearly as many threes as our opponents. Looking at box scores around the league I noticed we took the fewest of any team in the league last night. We shot 9/25. The Bucks hit 26/56 against the Magic. We ended with 105 points on 89 possessions. They ended with 139 points on 94 possessions. We were each playing a bottom feeder, and the Magic ended up with 117 points compared to Charlotte's 91, but it's hard for me to believe we're better defensively than the Bucks.

6. Is there a better backup 5 out there? Playoff opponents would be wise to try to put DA in foul trouble. The more minutes we're forced to give Landale (or Biyombo, who is the better option overall), the worse our chances.

Bottom line: I'm pretty confident going into the playoffs with this crew. Out west, we can beat anyone. In a finals series, I feel we'd have favorable odds against the Celtics. Sixers could be a problem if they emerge. But the Bucks? I fear the deer. I said it months ago. Led by the guy who will go down as the greatest power forward of all time, they should be considered the favorites to win it all.


Yeah, I've mentioned even though we have such great midrange players, that when opponents get hot from 3, even if we are great from 2, it's just hard to keep up...just do the math.

I think Paul is much better from 3 this year too so that drop in FG% really shows how his 2pt% must have dropped drastically. He used to be in the mid 50s I think and now must be low 40s. I kept saying from game 3 on against Dallas last year something happened and he just stopped going to his midrange spots and lost that part of his game, which was the best part of his game when it came to scoring (which was elite...one of very top midrange guys in entire NBA). I still think something happened to where he can't move as well to get into spots. I think I read somewhere his hip got screwed up in that series. But he was just settling for 3s after game 2 where he had a huge game with tons from midrange....he was only scoring like 2-4 ppg from midrange from game 3 on..and suddenly was playing like a floor spreader for the first time I remembered. And it's largely been the same.


Maybe we'll get a 30 for 30 someday on that collapse and it'll explain what really happened with everything. What lead to Crowder sitting out this season. Whatever happened to CP between Game 2 and Game 3 (I agree that SOMETHING must have happened, it was just too drastic of a change from one game to the next and he hasn't been the same since). Why everyone completely **** the bed in Game 7. I still feel like we all deserve an explanation
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Post#194 » by Fo-Real » Thu Mar 2, 2023 7:18 pm

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lilfishi22 wrote:Drysdale: "He does a great job of using his legs and elevating"

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Post#195 » by bwgood77 » Thu Mar 2, 2023 7:28 pm

Jesus_H_Macy wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:1. Book may have had the stats last night, but it took all of no time to confirm that KD is the best player on this team. He's a killer.

2. Our defense is really different with KD out there. As I predicted - Ayton was allowed to switch and close harder with KD being able to pick up the big when they rotate. Our starting unit was much more aggressive on defense than I've seen pretty much all season.

3. I really liked what TJ Warren brought to the court and was very pleased to see him moving up in the rotation.

4. The big weakness on this team is Chris Paul. He's still smart and can run an offense, but he's no longer an effective scorer. He's gotten the same looks this year he's gotten his whole career, but his FG% has dipped from 42% compared to 49% last season. It wouldn't be so big a deal if his backup was reliable, but given Payne's inconsistency, I think it's safer to use him as a change-up 9th/10th man. Bottom line: defenses will dare CP3 to shoot. And Monty will play him regardless, as we know.

5. There is a danger to playing the way we plan to - not taking nearly as many threes as our opponents. Looking at box scores around the league I noticed we took the fewest of any team in the league last night. We shot 9/25. The Bucks hit 26/56 against the Magic. We ended with 105 points on 89 possessions. They ended with 139 points on 94 possessions. We were each playing a bottom feeder, and the Magic ended up with 117 points compared to Charlotte's 91, but it's hard for me to believe we're better defensively than the Bucks.

6. Is there a better backup 5 out there? Playoff opponents would be wise to try to put DA in foul trouble. The more minutes we're forced to give Landale (or Biyombo, who is the better option overall), the worse our chances.

Bottom line: I'm pretty confident going into the playoffs with this crew. Out west, we can beat anyone. In a finals series, I feel we'd have favorable odds against the Celtics. Sixers could be a problem if they emerge. But the Bucks? I fear the deer. I said it months ago. Led by the guy who will go down as the greatest power forward of all time, they should be considered the favorites to win it all.


Yeah, I've mentioned even though we have such great midrange players, that when opponents get hot from 3, even if we are great from 2, it's just hard to keep up...just do the math.

I think Paul is much better from 3 this year too so that drop in FG% really shows how his 2pt% must have dropped drastically. He used to be in the mid 50s I think and now must be low 40s. I kept saying from game 3 on against Dallas last year something happened and he just stopped going to his midrange spots and lost that part of his game, which was the best part of his game when it came to scoring (which was elite...one of very top midrange guys in entire NBA). I still think something happened to where he can't move as well to get into spots. I think I read somewhere his hip got screwed up in that series. But he was just settling for 3s after game 2 where he had a huge game with tons from midrange....he was only scoring like 2-4 ppg from midrange from game 3 on..and suddenly was playing like a floor spreader for the first time I remembered. And it's largely been the same.


Maybe we'll get a 30 for 30 someday on that collapse and it'll explain what really happened with everything. What lead to Crowder sitting out this season. Whatever happened to CP between Game 2 and Game 3 (I agree that SOMETHING must have happened, it was just too drastic of a change from one game to the next and he hasn't been the same since). Why everyone completely **** the bed in Game 7. I still feel like we all deserve an explanation


We won't get a 30 for 30. I think mainly we just had a bad game...a terrible start, then kind of got freaked out digging a hole in game 7 and one nervousness set in, it was over. It seems like Book took a lot of shots early and he just missed a bunch to start...seems like he started like 0-7 or 0-10 or something. He does so well in so many playoff games, but those elimination games seem to get his nerves. They used to get KD's nerves too before he went to GS, but there was so little pressure there that it didn't matter. So hopefully we just cruise through the playoffs and don't even have to play elimination games. With each other though, it might be better. KD had Westbrook, and at least for a bit a really young Harden (who himself has been terrible in series clinching and elimination games himself)...having Book might be better and with KD, Book would feel less pressure in those moments.
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Post#196 » by spanishninja » Thu Mar 2, 2023 7:57 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Jesus_H_Macy wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Yeah, I've mentioned even though we have such great midrange players, that when opponents get hot from 3, even if we are great from 2, it's just hard to keep up...just do the math.

I think Paul is much better from 3 this year too so that drop in FG% really shows how his 2pt% must have dropped drastically. He used to be in the mid 50s I think and now must be low 40s. I kept saying from game 3 on against Dallas last year something happened and he just stopped going to his midrange spots and lost that part of his game, which was the best part of his game when it came to scoring (which was elite...one of very top midrange guys in entire NBA). I still think something happened to where he can't move as well to get into spots. I think I read somewhere his hip got screwed up in that series. But he was just settling for 3s after game 2 where he had a huge game with tons from midrange....he was only scoring like 2-4 ppg from midrange from game 3 on..and suddenly was playing like a floor spreader for the first time I remembered. And it's largely been the same.


Maybe we'll get a 30 for 30 someday on that collapse and it'll explain what really happened with everything. What lead to Crowder sitting out this season. Whatever happened to CP between Game 2 and Game 3 (I agree that SOMETHING must have happened, it was just too drastic of a change from one game to the next and he hasn't been the same since). Why everyone completely **** the bed in Game 7. I still feel like we all deserve an explanation


We won't get a 30 for 30. I think mainly we just had a bad game...a terrible start, then kind of got freaked out digging a hole in game 7 and one nervousness set in, it was over. It seems like Book took a lot of shots early and he just missed a bunch to start...seems like he started like 0-7 or 0-10 or something. He does so well in so many playoff games, but those elimination games seem to get his nerves. They used to get KD's nerves too before he went to GS, but there was so little pressure there that it didn't matter. So hopefully we just cruise through the playoffs and don't even have to play elimination games. With each other though, it might be better. KD had Westbrook, and at least for a bit a really young Harden (who himself has been terrible in series clinching and elimination games himself)...having Book might be better and with KD, Book would feel less pressure in those moments.


I hate to sound cynical, but if we end up winning the ring this season (or next), I bet the narrative will be hugely KD focused. like we were a bunch of bums before he got here. that's half true in the playoffs I guess, but I hope fans won't forget all the work the guys did to rebuild the team culture leading up to this point.
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Post#197 » by WeekapaugGroove » Thu Mar 2, 2023 8:09 pm

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Yeah, I've mentioned even though we have such great midrange players, that when opponents get hot from 3, even if we are great from 2, it's just hard to keep up...just do the math.

I think Paul is much better from 3 this year too so that drop in FG% really shows how his 2pt% must have dropped drastically. He used to be in the mid 50s I think and now must be low 40s. I kept saying from game 3 on against Dallas last year something happened and he just stopped going to his midrange spots and lost that part of his game, which was the best part of his game when it came to scoring (which was elite...one of very top midrange guys in entire NBA). I still think something happened to where he can't move as well to get into spots. I think I read somewhere his hip got screwed up in that series. But he was just settling for 3s after game 2 where he had a huge game with tons from midrange....he was only scoring like 2-4 ppg from midrange from game 3 on..and suddenly was playing like a floor spreader for the first time I remembered. And it's largely been the same.


Maybe we'll get a 30 for 30 someday on that collapse and it'll explain what really happened with everything. What lead to Crowder sitting out this season. Whatever happened to CP between Game 2 and Game 3 (I agree that SOMETHING must have happened, it was just too drastic of a change from one game to the next and he hasn't been the same since). Why everyone completely **** the bed in Game 7. I still feel like we all deserve an explanation


We won't get a 30 for 30. I think mainly we just had a bad game...a terrible start, then kind of got freaked out digging a hole in game 7 and one nervousness set in, it was over. It seems like Book took a lot of shots early and he just missed a bunch to start...seems like he started like 0-7 or 0-10 or something. He does so well in so many playoff games, but those elimination games seem to get his nerves. They used to get KD's nerves too before he went to GS, but there was so little pressure there that it didn't matter. So hopefully we just cruise through the playoffs and don't even have to play elimination games. With each other though, it might be better. KD had Westbrook, and at least for a bit a really young Harden (who himself has been terrible in series clinching and elimination games himself)...having Book might be better and with KD, Book would feel less pressure in those moments.
Yeah I was listening to Mikal on a pod earlier this year and they asked about game 7. I was listening for a hesitation like there was something he wanted to say but couldn't but there wasn't any of that at all. He said they felt good and confident coming in so it was surprising. He did elude to them not taking that initial shot in the mouth well when Dallas was hitting everything.


Suns obviously sucked in that game but as suns fans we probably underappreciate just how well Dallas played that night. Like I'm not sure the suns would have won that game even if they hadn't completely pooped themselves.

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Post#198 » by POLI » Thu Mar 2, 2023 9:58 pm

NapoleonII wrote:I agree.

It's likely Bucks vs Us.

No one in the East is stopping them, and they're the one team that can out-rebound us AND out-shoot us from three.

Bobby Portis is literally the difference maker with that team.



The Celtics, if healthy, will beat them I believe.
Better perimiter guys.
The combination of Brown, Smart, White, Brogdon and Tatum is increadible.
Then the Bucks have acquired Crowder to lessen Portis minutes, LOL.
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Post#199 » by bwgood77 » Thu Mar 2, 2023 10:32 pm

POLI wrote:
NapoleonII wrote:I agree.

It's likely Bucks vs Us.

No one in the East is stopping them, and they're the one team that can out-rebound us AND out-shoot us from three.

Bobby Portis is literally the difference maker with that team.



The Celtics, if healthy, will beat them I believe.
Better perimiter guys.
The combination of Brown, Smart, White, Brogdon and Tatum is increadible.
Then the Bucks have acquired Crowder to lessen Portis minutes, LOL.


And Crowder starts playoff series going like 2-22 from 3.
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Post#200 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Mar 2, 2023 10:56 pm

Say we come out of the West, do we prefer Round 2 with the Bucks and Giannis or a fresh match up against the more perimeter focused Celtics?

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