Petre1978 wrote:jezzerinho wrote:pepe1991 wrote:As season progresses this draft to me looks like 3 persons worth sucking for deep.
Nick Smith fell off hard imo, he looks like good-at-nothing guard + injury.
Cam Whitmore is trigger happy chucker. Like, Ross level- trigger happy chucker.
I like Anthony Black as player, but i don't see how he will help any team win games in near future ( also ugly turnover rate and i don't trust his jumper ). Seems like more of project than prospect.
Keyonte George- nothing about his game jumps off as potentially elite. Not elite athlete, not tallest person, not elite shooter, not greatest passer.
Thompson twins... i don't know how to scout players that play pickup games against 15 years old kids.
I see that Jalen Hood-Schifino is now in some mocks in lottery... Wow . GIven that draft sucks, might as well take fly on his teammate Traye Jackson Davis who leads that taem in points, blocks, rebounds and is second in assists. Sure he is 23 but whatever.
Take a look at Jordan Hawkins and Colby Jones and let me know your opinion.
Both of them are underrated and interesting.
But i am sure he will find something to criticize.
Every player has strenghts and weaknesses. I don't know what's there to even argue?
College players in general are hard to evaluate because more often than not, physical dominance agianst players of same age creates superficial uptick in "quality" of certain players and isn't very realistic outlook of talent. Justice Winslow and Jah Okafor are best examples. On 35-4 team, they dominated everybody because most teams didn't have funcional 7 footers to defend Jah and Winslow, drafted as " small forward" was in reality playing PF and imposed his physicality on whoever wasn't guarding Okafor.
In reality Okafor had no mobility to defend space in nba ( but at college he was camping below rim) and "small forward " Winslow, turned to be 6'4 without shoes, without jumpshot for SG, without size nor ballhandling for SF and brutally undersized to even considered PF. But both went high in lottery and turned into complete waste od draft picks.
This is why you have to evaluate everything when you evaluate young players.
As far as Jordan Hawkins goes, his freshmen year was dreadful. He is 21 ( turns 21 in a month to be more specific) .
This massive uptick in sophmore vs freshmen year is always questionable and hard to evaluate. NAW and Okeke had massive upticks in production in second years, both didn't turn into good nba players.
Keegan Murray had massive, massive second year (23 ppg) and he looks solid in nba. But nothing more than that.
Colby Jones is same story, he is playing his 3rd college season. Few months ago he was considered second round pick or very late first round pick. In first two years he was 30% three point shooter, now he is 40% three point shooter. It's hard to figure how sustainable his 3% is.
My biggest concern going into this draft is that Magic will have some random 7th and 10th pick or something like that and there will be nobody that will 100% make team better short term. And long term you could create another Suggs. Bamba situation where player has no clear path toward sucess due logjams of positions and simply no PT to play them.
Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. -John Lennon
