Clips 12-10 in the Russ Era

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Re: Clips start the Russ Era 0-5, but the pickup looks like a steal 

Post#241 » by Mickey8 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 6:15 am

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Pass was fine all things considered and i dont think WB had to overextend himself to get it. He just took his eyes off the ball.
it wasnt a good pass but it went through Westbrooks hands. He could have caught that. they both messed up.

That should have been aa easy catch for the most of the players in any basketball league .
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Re: Clips start the Russ Era 0-5, but the pickup looks like a steal 

Post#242 » by KingFox » Sat Mar 4, 2023 6:18 am

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Yeah that particular play wasn’t his fault. Skip just being a you know what at this point
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Re: Clips start the Russ Era 0-5, but the pickup looks like a steal 

Post#243 » by KingFox » Sat Mar 4, 2023 6:18 am

But this thread title and the constant edit to that record is going to be the death of me :lol:
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Re: Clips start the Russ Era 0-5, but the pickup looks like a steal 

Post#244 » by CIN-C-STAR » Sat Mar 4, 2023 6:20 am

HotRocks34 wrote:They counted it as Russ' turnover but it shouldnt've been his.

The pass was too high and too fast by Gordon.

The passer is almost always given the turnover. Not sure what the deal was there.

It's a shame. Clips had that game against a strong Kings team. Russ is balling. Rest of the Clips have to catch up.


I mean, it went off both his hands and he wasn't even fully extended.
The vast majority of NBA players catch that pass 99 times out of 100, at least.
It wasn't a perfect pass but also was not an especially difficult catch.
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Re: Clips start the Russ Era 0-5, but the pickup looks like a steal 

Post#245 » by Mickey8 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 6:20 am

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Yeah that particular play wasn’t his fault. Skip just being a you know what at this point

It was his fault. He's not 5"5 tall. The ball was barely above his head. He should have caught that ball, he has horrible hands I guess.
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Post#246 » by KingFox » Sat Mar 4, 2023 6:21 am

LAvision wrote:That pass was easily catchable.

I will say, he clearly often thinks of what he’s going to do before he fully gets control of the ball. I’ve seen it so many times, he’s so ready to speed off to the basket that doesn’t make sure he has possession first.
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Post#247 » by Monky15 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 6:30 am

Why is Westbrook even on the floor in the closing moments of a close game?
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Post#248 » by HotRocks34 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 6:38 am

Russ takes the blame for the turnover that cost the Clips the game. Good leadership. I don't think the play was his fault, but it's good to accept responsibility and not blame your teammates whatever the case may be.

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Re: Clips start the Russ Era 0-5, but the pickup looks like a steal 

Post#249 » by SleepingDragon » Sat Mar 4, 2023 6:45 am

HotRocks34 wrote:They counted it as Russ' turnover but it shouldnt've been his.

The pass was too high and too fast by Gordon.

The passer is almost always given the turnover. Not sure what the deal was there.

It's a shame. Clips had that game against a strong Kings team. Russ is balling. Rest of the Clips have to catch up.

The turnover is mostly on Westbrook.

He barely jumped to try to catch the pass and the ball hits both of his hands and went out of bounds.

He should've jumped higher to try to prevent the ball from getting past him.
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Post#250 » by Sofia » Sat Mar 4, 2023 6:49 am

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Maybe his quiet, show up sometimes leadership style isn't elevating his roster. Yes he's scoring the ball well. Big deal. So is every other star player in the league. They haven't been anything but mediocre all season.
Clippers were 12-5 in the last 17 games Kawhi played before adding Westbrook. Kawhi was averaging 28/7/5 on 52/47/92.

The last 4 games he's averaging 30/6/3 on 60/64/84. Now Zubac has missed 3/4 of those games, that's a factor, sure. In the no Zubac games they gave up 136.9, 123.5 and 114.1 Ortg, and yes, two of those teams were Sacramento and Denver, two of the league's best offenses, so that's a factor.

This is actually more so on coaching and management for neglecting the effect of Westbrook disrupting the rotations, pecking order and chemistry that they were already showing post deadline and his lack of ability and impact to counteract those negatives.

If you already have a full roster and add a starter playing 27-30 mpg, you're adding some problems, whether any player clearly says it or not. The player better be high impact and good enough to justify that disruption. It's hard to argue that Westbrook in his current state is such for this specific team, and that's where you can have some issues.

Lue's plan seems to have been just throw Westbrook in and see how it all works with everything, fit, chemistry, overall roster intensity, etc, because, well maybe that could be his best lineup, so better get it tuned in now.


I still don't under why they traded Reggie Jackson. It's not like he's really been struggling shooting 30% and committing 7 turnovers per game.


Reggie wasn’t getting enough possession to rack up numbers like that, but unfortunately, Big Government looked pretty subpar this season
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Re: Clips start the Russ Era 0-5, but the pickup looks like a steal 

Post#251 » by SomeBunghole » Sat Mar 4, 2023 7:15 am

Monky15 wrote:Why is Westbrook even on the floor in the closing moments of a close game?


My first thought when seeing that Eric Gordon and Westbrook messed up was "Those are totally the two guys I want to have the ball with the game on the line."
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Post#252 » by Mk0 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 7:15 am

Russ was eager to take that pass straight to the rim and just flubbed it. It sucks that it happened in crunch time, but it happens.
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Post#253 » by Dubious Handles » Sat Mar 4, 2023 7:44 am

Russ is slowly making it work on the Clips. Career-best splits and as usual great display of leadership, taking responsibility. Something Playoff P openly runs away from
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Post#254 » by CIN-C-STAR » Sat Mar 4, 2023 7:53 am

Dubious Handles wrote:Russ is slowly making it work on the Clips. Career-best splits and as usual great display of leadership, taking responsibility. Something Playoff P openly runs away from


Yes you can definitely see it coming together.
I predict that by the end of the season, they will even win a game with him on the team :wink:




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Post#255 » by trickshot » Sat Mar 4, 2023 8:04 am

It was a horrible catch. Westbrook was open enough that he doesn't even have any pressure to corral it in one catch motion. The pass while unideal is nothing compared to the level of hot potato players are used to grabbing on your average long rebound or out of bound save pass. No one makes the league being unable to handle that pass. He just lost concentration.
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Post#256 » by axeman23 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 8:11 am

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Post#257 » by John Murdoch » Sat Mar 4, 2023 8:32 am

If clipps waive him is he done in the NBA?
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Re: Clips start the Russ Era 0-5, but the pickup looks like a steal 

Post#258 » by OxAndFox » Sat Mar 4, 2023 8:33 am

Not sure what people that think this wasn't on Russ were watching. That's an easy catch that LITERALLY went through both hands.
He had a good offensive game, but boy oh boy is he the biggest liability on D. Like literally doesn't care.
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Post#259 » by trickshot » Sat Mar 4, 2023 8:34 am

The image of Westbrook's man leaving him wide open on the last play to doubleteam PG was probably worse than the turnover. RIP Final possessions.
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Re: Clips start the Russ Era 0-5, but the pickup looks like a steal 

Post#260 » by -Luke- » Sat Mar 4, 2023 8:42 am

Two weeks from now: "Re: Clips start the Russ Era 0-12, but the pickup looks like a steal "

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