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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II

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Re: Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#661 » by WuTang_CMB » Sun Mar 5, 2023 1:01 am

Mark_83 wrote:We're currently picking 13th and falling. Likely to pick between 15-20.

That means we're looking at the likes of Wallace, Hendricks, Jones, Murray, Whitehead, Rupert, Hawkins, Coulibaly, JHS, Lewis, Cissoko, Lively, Ware.


Projecting a 41-41 record
We will probably be 13-16 .. doubt we hit 18-20. Too many teams to leapfrog
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#662 » by Kevin Willis » Sun Mar 5, 2023 1:25 am

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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Anthony Black looks like trash. Hot take: Ricky Council might legitimately have a better chance than him or Smith at hanging in the NBA.

Keyontae Johnson looks like he's gonna be in the NBA for a long long time. Dude is an incredible shooter and finisher, he can score in a variety of ways with supreme efficiency. I think at this point it's undeniable that he is a 1st round pick. Has a number of weaknesses but very few people in this draft can score it as efficiently as he can at all 3 levels which is a prerequisite for being an elite player. You work on the ball protection issues/passing decisions later. Not really a great dribble penetration player but his touch around the basket is elite any time he is operating there on drives and cuts.

Horrible hot take. Black looks good. Just because someone isn’t scoring 20+ doesn’t mean they aren’t doing a ton more. As Raptors fans we saw years of slander for Lowry who wasn’t a box score darling but made so many winning plays


Are you even watching the game right now, or do you just watch highlight reels?


Yeah he didn't look good today. He disappears in every big game which Kyle didn't do. Today him and Nick Smith Jr. look like different class of players.

Keyontae's issue is age and health concern.
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Re: Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#663 » by Yallbecrazy » Sun Mar 5, 2023 1:48 am

Mark_83 wrote:We're currently picking 13th and falling. Likely to pick between 15-20.

That means we're looking at the likes of Wallace, Hendricks, Jones, Murray, Whitehead, Rupert, Hawkins, Coulibaly, JHS, Lewis, Cissoko, Lively, Ware.


Brandin Podziemski is someone who crushes my stats model pretty well. He's not a great athlete, but not a poor one either. He has a chance to develop into a point guard, but could just be a really good 2 guard as well, have him top 10 in this draft, but I haven't actually seen him play. Just a couple scouting reports, plugging in his stats, and liking his consistency from game to game. He played okay and pretty well in his two games vs Gonzaga as well, unsure how good his teammates are or if he's still putting up stats despite other teams focusing on him. If it's the latter he could be really special.
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Re: Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#664 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Mar 5, 2023 2:17 am

Deceiving things about Anthony Black's stats today:

-Inflated FT numbers because the game got extremely chippy including a double techincal ejection and the refs blew the whistle nonstop. 67 total free throws were awarded during this game.

-Put the ball on the floor and decided to drive aggressively while not analyzing plays which resulted in botched plays and a few near turnovers. He was credited with 1 turnover but came very close to being credited with 3, his teammates retrieved the two loose balls on a couple other botched passes. Has a ways to go as a passer, makes too many bad reads and decisions even though he will also make good ones.

-Inflated rebounding totals as he grabbed his own rebound on a miss and then missed a wide open easy putback and then was on the floor for a long time with Kentucky's two extremely poor rebounding guards and when their only quality rebounder Oscar Tshiebwe was off the floor as well.
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Re: Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#665 » by ItsDanger » Sun Mar 5, 2023 2:30 am

Zach Edey wins ESPN's college gameday player of the year award. Nice acceptance speech. LOL

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#666 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Mar 5, 2023 2:36 am

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Anthony Black looks like trash. Hot take: Ricky Council might legitimately have a better chance than him or Smith at hanging in the NBA.

Keyontae Johnson looks like he's gonna be in the NBA for a long long time. Dude is an incredible shooter and finisher, he can score in a variety of ways with supreme efficiency. I think at this point it's undeniable that he is a 1st round pick. Has a number of weaknesses but very few people in this draft can score it as efficiently as he can at all 3 levels which is a prerequisite for being an elite player. You work on the ball protection issues/passing decisions later. Not really a great dribble penetration player but his touch around the basket is elite any time he is operating there on drives and cuts.

Horrible hot take. Black looks good. Just because someone isn’t scoring 20+ doesn’t mean they aren’t doing a ton more. As Raptors fans we saw years of slander for Lowry who wasn’t a box score darling but made so many winning plays


Are you even watching the game right now, or do you just watch highlight reels?

I watch the game much closer than you’d think. Watching Scouting Rapport videos on YouTube doesn’t make you an expert. You have to learn how to analyze the game and see intangibles that don’t show up on the stat sheet.
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Re: Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#667 » by Kevin Willis » Sun Mar 5, 2023 5:19 am

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Re: Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#668 » by Psubs » Sun Mar 5, 2023 5:33 am

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He's really developing nicely. I hope not too much. Why is he not top 10 yet? He's seems like Luol Deng out there.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#669 » by Dalek » Sun Mar 5, 2023 8:04 am

Nice film to see Nick Smith Jr. I like to see his full offensive game on display. Nice floaters and mid-range shots. Not elite burst on his drives, but you can tell he is more predicated to be a hesi dribble guy.



Why I like him is he is can play off or on ball and he can make a play in short clock scenarios.

Why I hesitate is the lack of elite burst and he looks weak on defense. I can see him being in the 10-20 range rather than the early lotto unless he keeps scoring like this.

I might like Keyonte George a bit more. I kind of like George's athleticism and strength and jumper more. He just looks like he has more range than Smith Jr.
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Post#670 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Mar 5, 2023 8:44 am

Kentucky was down 2 players including Cason Wallace. Even with that, Smith shot 43.4% and lost. 2 of his FTA were awarded for a technical.

He helped let one of Kentucky's starting Gs shoot 12-17 from the field.
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Post#671 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Mar 5, 2023 4:35 pm

Houston with a huge test on the road @ Memphis in less than half an hour should be a great game.
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Post#672 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Mar 5, 2023 6:26 pm

Refs trying to give the game to Memphis, they called Jarace Walker out of bounds with his foot on the line when it clearly was not out. Given 18 fts to Memphis and 7 to Houston. Typical Tony Brothers raps style screwjob.

Walker just got called for ANOTHER critical foot out of bounds turnover but this time it was legit. Walker not having a good day.
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Re: Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#673 » by Dalek » Sun Mar 5, 2023 7:19 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Refs trying to give the game to Memphis, they called Jarace Walker out of bounds with his foot on the line when it clearly was not out. Given 18 fts to Memphis and 7 to Houston. Typical Tony Brothers raps style screwjob.

Walker just got called for ANOTHER critical foot out of bounds turnover but this time it was legit. Walker not having a good day.


What happened to Sasser today? Foul trouble?
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Re: Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#674 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Mar 5, 2023 8:00 pm

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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Refs trying to give the game to Memphis, they called Jarace Walker out of bounds with his foot on the line when it clearly was not out. Given 18 fts to Memphis and 7 to Houston. Typical Tony Brothers raps style screwjob.

Walker just got called for ANOTHER critical foot out of bounds turnover but this time it was legit. Walker not having a good day.


What happened to Sasser today? Foul trouble?


Entire Houston team was struggling aside from Mark because Penny Hardaway coached the game of a lifetime for Memphis. Very hostile environment and every single Memphis player was exerting crazy energy on defensive end. They ran full court press for half the game and hounded everyone and also multiple defensive coverages.

Sasser was excellent defensively, shots just didn't fall but few shots fell for either team.

Jarace Walker looked awful, had 3 or 4 unforced turnovers including a traveling violation in his own backcourt at a critical moment. Looked like Precious Achiuwa out there.

Memphis really made it difficult. Shead is the man.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#675 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Mar 5, 2023 11:04 pm

Houston shot 46% as a team, Sasser was 4/12. Let’s call a spade a spade. He had a bad game


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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#676 » by alpngso » Sun Mar 5, 2023 11:21 pm

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Post#677 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Mar 5, 2023 11:23 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:Houston shot 46% as a team, Sasser was 4/12. Let’s call a spade a spade. He had a bad game


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Horrible take. He won't be seeing full court presses nonstop in the NBA while playing in a madhouse like that. He had very little space to operate.

For all you talk about watching scouting reports and reading box scores as being an incomplete source of information that's EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO :nod:

Looking at your signature also shows how much of a toxic poster you are. Go open your own scouting company dude, I'm sure the Houston Rockets will hire you.
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Post#678 » by alpngso » Sun Mar 5, 2023 11:31 pm

And I think Jackson-Davis from Indiana is worth a look at late 1st. Solid big. Definitely improved from last year
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#679 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Mar 5, 2023 11:44 pm

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BoyzNTheHood wrote:Houston shot 46% as a team, Sasser was 4/12. Let’s call a spade a spade. He had a bad game


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Horrible take. He won't be seeing full court presses nonstop in the NBA while playing in a madhouse like that. He had very little space to operate.

For all you talk about watching scouting reports and reading box scores as being an incomplete source of information that's EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO :nod:

Looking at your signature also shows how much of a toxic poster you are. Go open your own scouting company dude, I'm sure the Houston Rockets will hire you.

Lol you’re in here dumping on every prospect besides Sasser, and you’re not even transparent enough to call out his bad games. Excuses, excuses, and more excuses when it comes to Sasser for you. He had a BAD game. Horrible shooting, turning the ball over, and barely getting his team past an unranked opponent. You think you know more than anyone else in here, and the fact that you keep trying to dump on everyone else’s suggestions shows how toxic you are. Why are you even mad about my signature? It seems like you have some sort of personal issue with it. Maybe you’re a banned poster returning under a different username? I’ll let the mods figure that one out.
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Post#680 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Mar 5, 2023 11:46 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:Houston shot 46% as a team, Sasser was 4/12. Let’s call a spade a spade. He had a bad game


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Horrible take. He won't be seeing full court presses nonstop in the NBA while playing in a madhouse like that. He had very little space to operate.

For all you talk about watching scouting reports and reading box scores as being an incomplete source of information that's EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO :nod:

Looking at your signature also shows how much of a toxic poster you are. Go open your own scouting company dude, I'm sure the Houston Rockets will hire you.

Lol you’re in here dumping on every prospect besides Sasser, and you’re not even transparent enough to call out his bad games. Excuses, excuses, and more excuses when it comes to Sasser for you. He had a BAD game. Horrible shooting, turning the ball over, and barely getting his team past an unranked opponent. You think you know more than anyone else in here, and the fact that you keep trying to dump on everyone else’s suggestions shows how toxic you are. Why are you even mad about my signature? It seems like you have some sort of personal issue with it. Maybe you’re a banned poster returning under a different username? I’ll let the mods figure that one out.


I'm not dumping on every prospect besides Sasser you toxic clown. I even agree with you on Keyontae Johnson and many other players.

The fact you put any emphasis on Memphis being unranked is absolutely wild because they brought it today harder than most ranked opponents would have against Houston. Penny Hardaway had his team ready. Go pick fights elsewhere you are irrelevant to me.

Also, I criticize anyone's takes and anyone can criticize mine, the difference is when you personally attack me is where it crosses the line and what makes you toxic.

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