RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Suns (Sunday, 1PM EST)

[Mavrelous]

What a fustrating game

[Absinthe]

I don’t give a damn if KD goes for 70—no name role players aren’t going to have a shoot around out there.

[UglyBugBall]

Tough losses
We will get some wins and figure things out

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It's kind of late to be figuring things out. These losses could be the difference between getting a seeding that we can ride to the finals or losing in the first round.

[Archx]

Powell 4/4, (-8) 24 mins... .Wood 17/3 on 5-7 FG, (-1) 22 mins. Someone try and make sense of that. And no, Powell is not superior on defense by any margin.

Ayton 16 rebounds, how many when Powell was a primary defender?

[Absinthe]

I think if Maxi plays and Luka doesn’t have one of his worst games of the season then the Mavs easily win this game.

[41Dirk41]

Good game. KD is very good.

[41Dirk41]

I think if Maxi plays and Luka doesn’t have one of his worst games of the season then the Mavs easily win this game.

+ Maxi -Powell is always a good thing

[Ni Da Ye]

So how was the Kyrie Luka experience so far?

2-6 when they were playing together was obviously a rough start. I think Luka needs a big man superstar rather than another ball handler.

Luka and Joker would be perfect in a dream world.

[ejs78]

So how was the Kyrie Luka experience so far?

2-6 when they were playing together was obviously a rough start. I think Luka needs a big man superstar rather than another ball handler.

Luka and Joker would be perfect in a dream world.

What's the record if they had Spencer and DFS? Whats the point difference as well?

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[Ni Da Ye]

So how was the Kyrie Luka experience so far?

2-6 when they were playing together was obviously a rough start. I think Luka needs a big man superstar rather than another ball handler.

Luka and Joker would be perfect in a dream world.

What's the record if they had Spencer and DFS? Whats the point difference as well?

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What if question doesn’t matter. What if Luka and Kyrie can have more chemistry going on and give us 6 wins 2 losses instead?

The reality is they have a 2-6 for a reason, similar as how Clippers getting a 0-5 after getting Russ.

I know sometimes chemistry takes time. But sometimes it doesn’t take time. KD is not taking time to gel with the Suns. Pau Gasol didn’t take time to fit in the triangle offense and so on…

Chemistry takes time because something is not a good fit from the beginning.

[ejs78]

So how was the Kyrie Luka experience so far?

2-6 when they were playing together was obviously a rough start. I think Luka needs a big man superstar rather than another ball handler.

Luka and Joker would be perfect in a dream world.

What's the record if they had Spencer and DFS? Whats the point difference as well?

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What if question doesn’t matter. What if Luka and Kyrie can have more chemistry going on and give us 6 wins 2 losses instead?

The reality is they have a 2-6 for a reason, similar as how Clippers getting a 0-5 after getting Russ.

I know sometimes chemistry takes time. But sometimes it doesn’t take time. KD is not taking time to gel with the Suns. Pau Gasol didn’t take time to fit in the triangle offense and so on…

Chemistry takes time because something is not a good fit from the beginning.

Yeah really not so much about their fit compared to everything else around it. This and the Westbrook 0-5 are bad narratives that the national media likes to pump out. Both the Mavs and Clips have been in nearly every game since both have joined. Id be much more worried about the fit of Gobert with the huge sample size they have.

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[Archx]

So how was the Kyrie Luka experience so far?

2-6 when they were playing together was obviously a rough start. I think Luka needs a big man superstar rather than another ball handler.

Luka and Joker would be perfect in a dream world.

What's the record if they had Spencer and DFS? Whats the point difference as well?

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What if question doesn’t matter. What if Luka and Kyrie can have more chemistry going on and give us 6 wins 2 losses instead?

The reality is they have a 2-6 for a reason, similar as how Clippers getting a 0-5 after getting Russ.

I know sometimes chemistry takes time. But sometimes it doesn’t take time. KD is not taking time to gel with the Suns. Pau Gasol didn’t take time to fit in the triangle offense and so on…

Chemistry takes time because something is not a good fit from the beginning.

Lakers had problems with Gasol because he was soft. He had to get a bit tougher and be better around the rim.

Mavs have the same problems. ZERO rim or paint protection and bad rebounding. Best Powell can do is to play voleyball instead of being smart and position himself to grab the ball.

Since Kyrie joined, Mavs scored under 120 points only twice !!!

In 8 games, Kyrie is averaging 26.6 and 7 apg on 52/42/94 shooting splits. He's been incredible. Mavs centers on the other hand are a different story. One is sitting on the bench and the other one is the same as he was 5 years ago.

[Absinthe]

You mean to tell me that the Mavs couldn’t have traded for a big before the deadline ended? Was their plan seriously to trade for Kyrie and not have a deal in place to land a post player who can actually defend and rebound?

[ejs78]

You mean to tell me that the Mavs couldn’t have traded for a big before the deadline ended? Was their plan seriously to trade for Kyrie and not have a deal in place to land a post player who can actually defend and rebound?

And other teams have to want what you have.

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[Ni Da Ye]

You mean to tell me that the Mavs couldn’t have traded for a big before the deadline ended? Was their plan seriously to trade for Kyrie and not have a deal in place to land a post player who can actually defend and rebound?

Exactly. We all thought there would be a follow up trade to further improve the roster and defense after we got Kyrie. But unfortunately that didn’t happen.

[Ni Da Ye]

What's the record if they had Spencer and DFS? Whats the point difference as well?

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What if question doesn’t matter. What if Luka and Kyrie can have more chemistry going on and give us 6 wins 2 losses instead?

The reality is they have a 2-6 for a reason, similar as how Clippers getting a 0-5 after getting Russ.

I know sometimes chemistry takes time. But sometimes it doesn’t take time. KD is not taking time to gel with the Suns. Pau Gasol didn’t take time to fit in the triangle offense and so on…

Chemistry takes time because something is not a good fit from the beginning.

Lakers had problems with Gasol because he was soft. He had to get a bit tougher and be better around the rim.

Mavs have the same problems. ZERO rim or paint protection and bad rebounding. Best Powell can do is to play voleyball instead of being smart and position himself to grab the ball.

Since Kyrie joined, Mavs scored under 120 points only twice !!!

In 8 games, Kyrie is averaging 26.6 and 7 apg on 52/42/94 shooting splits. He's been incredible. Mavs centers on the other hand are a different story. One is sitting on the bench and the other one is the same as he was 5 years ago.

Lmao. After lakers got Pau, they went straight to nba finals in three consecutive years and you call that a problem?

[Archx]

What if question doesn’t matter. What if Luka and Kyrie can have more chemistry going on and give us 6 wins 2 losses instead?

The reality is they have a 2-6 for a reason, similar as how Clippers getting a 0-5 after getting Russ.

I know sometimes chemistry takes time. But sometimes it doesn’t take time. KD is not taking time to gel with the Suns. Pau Gasol didn’t take time to fit in the triangle offense and so on…

Chemistry takes time because something is not a good fit from the beginning.

Lakers had problems with Gasol because he was soft. He had to get a bit tougher and be better around the rim.

Mavs have the same problems. ZERO rim or paint protection and bad rebounding. Best Powell can do is to play voleyball instead of being smart and position himself to grab the ball.

Since Kyrie joined, Mavs scored under 120 points only twice !!!

In 8 games, Kyrie is averaging 26.6 and 7 apg on 52/42/94 shooting splits. He's been incredible. Mavs centers on the other hand are a different story. One is sitting on the bench and the other one is the same as he was 5 years ago.

Lmao. After lakers got Pau, they went straight to nba finals in three consecutive years and you call that a problem?

You clearly didn't follow that team if you don't know what i'm talking about. When Gasol got traded, he obviously improved the team but he had to toughen up. His biggest criticism was the fact that he got constantly bullied. That changed once Lakers got their ass kicked by the Celtics.

So i don't know what your point is with Kyrie because there are zero issues with him so far.

[Ni Da Ye]

Lakers had problems with Gasol because he was soft. He had to get a bit tougher and be better around the rim.

Mavs have the same problems. ZERO rim or paint protection and bad rebounding. Best Powell can do is to play voleyball instead of being smart and position himself to grab the ball.

Since Kyrie joined, Mavs scored under 120 points only twice !!!

In 8 games, Kyrie is averaging 26.6 and 7 apg on 52/42/94 shooting splits. He's been incredible. Mavs centers on the other hand are a different story. One is sitting on the bench and the other one is the same as he was 5 years ago.

Lmao. After lakers got Pau, they went straight to nba finals in three consecutive years and you call that a problem?

You clearly didn't follow that team if you don't know what i'm talking about. When Gasol got traded, he obviously improved the team but he had to toughen up. His biggest criticism was the fact that he got constantly bullied. That changed once Lakers got their ass kicked by the Celtics.

So i don't know what your point is with Kyrie because there are zero issues with him so far.

I clearly watched the games back then and knew what i am talking about.

I didn't say Pau was flawless in the Laskers, I said Pau had no problem gelling with the team and improved their winning records.

Kyrie's issue is not his numbers, the issue is that has not translated to WINNING, which is why we brought him here.

[Archx]

Lmao. After lakers got Pau, they went straight to nba finals in three consecutive years and you call that a problem?

You clearly didn't follow that team if you don't know what i'm talking about. When Gasol got traded, he obviously improved the team but he had to toughen up. His biggest criticism was the fact that he got constantly bullied. That changed once Lakers got their ass kicked by the Celtics.

So i don't know what your point is with Kyrie because there are zero issues with him so far.

I clearly watched the games back then and knew what i am talking about.

I didn't say Pau was flawless in the Laskers, I said Pau had no problem gelling with the team and improved their winning records.

Kyrie's issue is not his numbers, the issue is that has not translated to WINNING, which is why we brought him here.

Kyrie's On/Off numbers are +10.9 and Mavs ORTG with him on the floor is 129, almost 9 higher than with Doncic and 3pt higher than Jokic's. Defense is slightly worse but that's not his problem. He's actually way better than Dinwiddie who's On/Off was constantly around -10.

Problem is in Mavs lineup combinations and paint protection. Best Mavs lineup of Luka, Green, Hardaway, Maxi, Wood, barely plays together. They are team high +11. You insert Kyrie in to the mix instead of THJ and you have something special. A good mixture of offense, defense and great spacing. Kidd is too dumb to figure this out and Maxi was obviously injured.

But the point is, Kyrie is NOT the problem. He's averaging 26/7 on 65% TS. Chemistry is also there but the same factors that bothered Mavs last season in the playoffs are very much present today.
No team is going to win anything if they can't protect their own rim. You saw Suns scored almost all of their points in the paint at the start of the game. Same thing happened vs Pacers when Rick used Turner to absolutey abuse Powell in PnR. Suns followed the same plan.

[JWillTheFreak]

We just don't have any good defensive players adding kyrie is great for offense but for defensive end not so much. DFS and Brunson were good defensive players... Now we have noone and on top of that we no rim presence we get dominated in the paint around the basketball.