2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys

[bluejerseyjinx]

I'm all out with any of these QB's in this year's draft. Don't like any of them. None of them imho is worth even grooming. If we do move up It better be someone besides a QB.

So you’d rather have Dak. I see you’re becoming a fan.

We are stuck with him for at least one more year whether we like it or not. And believe me I don't like it one bit. But we can add some pieces and get better, preferably on defense till we can get rid of him after next season. Next year's QB draft class looks much better to me and I'd rather wait till then.

[Micah Prescott]

Dak haters have a better chance at winning the lottery than you do of the Cowboys trading into the top-10 for a QB.

Your best chances at getting Dak out are that he gets injured early in the season and then whatever mid round QB we draft to be his backup goes in there and then outplays him. Basically the exact thing that got Romo out for Dak.

Id be looking at what QBs will go in the 3rd or 4th round. We will probably get one. And then cross your fingers for the injury.

[Cactus Jack]

Next year's QB draft class looks much better to me and I'd rather wait till then.

It's not.

Caleb Williams is a stud & will be the #1 pick next year. But Young & Stroud are both better prospects than Drake Maye.

This year's class doesn't have an Andrew Luck or Joe Burrow type prospect. But you've got 2 or 3 QB's who could be very good starters.

So unless you tank & land the #1 pick, the chances of getting an impact guy next year, isn't great.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Next year's QB draft class looks much better to me and I'd rather wait till then.

It's not.

Caleb Williams is a stud & will be the #1 pick next year. But Young & Stroud are both better prospects than Drake Maye.

This year's class doesn't have an Andrew Luck or Joe Burrow type prospect. But you've got 2 or 3 QB's who could be very good starters.

So unless you tank & land the #1 pick, the chances of getting an impact guy next year, isn't great.

That's your opinion. I've already told you and everyone in here multiple times that I don't like ANY of the QB's in this draft class and I stand by it. We still have numb nuts for at least one more year and two if WE WANT. Lets not get bonkers and losing our minds on drafting a QB out of desperation and end up drafting another Dak. Based on what I have seen from this year's QB draft class, I'd rather wait and take my chances next year. And also we don't know how things are going to work out down the road for QB's like Rodgers, Burrow if the Bengals don't sign or can afford to sign him. I'm hearing the Bengals are already doing Burrow dirty. There could be some way better options ahead is all I'm saying. Lets not lose our minds here. Jerry and the Cowboys have been going all in for the most part of 27 years. Where has it gotten us? Draft smart, get some more nice pieces and keep building. The defense is close to being elite. Lets not turn our backs on that. Except for 4 pieces, I kinda like this team.

[Micah Prescott]

Oh there is no Mahomes in this draft so maybe next year?

And then even Mahomes spent his rookie year on the bench watching Alex Smith.

I guess at least you come to terms with the fact that Dak is our best option in the present moment, so that's a step forward. Now you just need to come to the realization that finding a better replacement isn't going to happen over night.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Oh there is no Mahomes in this draft so maybe next year?

And then even Mahomes spent his rookie year on the bench watching Alex Smith.

I guess at least you come to terms with the fact that Dak is our best option in the present moment, so that's a step forward. Now you just need to come to the realization that finding a better replacement isn't going to happen over night.

Only in a business sense. Not when it comes to talent or brains. As much as I would love to do it, it would be just plain stupid to take a 59.1 mill cap hit. And I'm not the one that brought up drafting a QB. FOR THE 20TH TIMES IN THE PAST 6 WEEK'S (I GUESS THERE IS SELECTIVE READING IN HERE), I don't like any of the QB's in this draft class. There in no way is a Mahomes in this draft class to answer your question. Wouldn't give any of them even a mop job wearing a paper hat. I've already posted the direction I want our team to take. In the first 3 rounds I a want DT, LB and Guard/Center unless Robinson or someone like Paris Johnson falls to us or something like that. I would consider Bijan Robinson if the price wasn't too steep if we had to move up a bit. At the moment, this is where I am.

[Micah Prescott]

There likely won't be another Mahomes in the next 5-10 drafts. He's a generational talent. Outside of him there are maybe 3-4 QBs in the NFL who are a clear upgrade to Dak, and then a bunch who are near his level or debatable, like a 40 year old Rodgers.

Every franchise wants the next Mahomes, but the reality is that there is only one of him and the rest of us have to try and find other ways to win. And there are other ways to win, lots of teams have won a ring without an elite QB. And if you are sitting around waiting on Dallas to draft the next Mahomes the odds are you're going to be waiting all the way to your grave.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Wouldn't be a debate at all if we were fortunate enough to have a choice between Rodgers and Dak.

[bluejerseyjinx]

There likely won't be another Mahomes in the next 5-10 drafts. He's a generational talent. Outside of him there are maybe 3-4 QBs in the NFL who are a clear upgrade to Dak, and then a bunch who are near his level or debatable, like a 40 year old Rodgers.

Every franchise wants the next Mahomes, but the reality is that there is only one of him and the rest of us have to try and find other ways to win. And there are other ways to win, lots of teams have won a ring without an elite QB. And if you are sitting around waiting on Dallas to draft the next Mahomes the odds are you're going to be waiting all the way to your grave.

If your playing the odds, perhaps yes. But none of us ever know when the nest generational player comes. Brady was a 6th round pick. I can think of 8-10 QB's in the league today that I consider an upgrade over your boy. I have Dak on the same level as Baker Mayfield.

[Cactus Jack]

There likely won't be another Mahomes in the next 5-10 drafts. He's a generational talent. Outside of him there are maybe 3-4 QBs in the NFL who are a clear upgrade to Dak, and then a bunch who are near his level or debatable, like a 40 year old Rodgers.

Every franchise wants the next Mahomes, but the reality is that there is only one of him and the rest of us have to try and find other ways to win. And there are other ways to win, lots of teams have won a ring without an elite QB. And if you are sitting around waiting on Dallas to draft the next Mahomes the odds are you're going to be waiting all the way to your grave.

Caleb Williams is Mahomes like. He's that special.

But you're gonna need to win like 2 games next year to land him. Because whoever has the #1 pick ain't trading it.

You are going to see a handful of teams try to tank their way to land him.

[Mr B]

There likely won't be another Mahomes in the next 5-10 drafts. He's a generational talent. Outside of him there are maybe 3-4 QBs in the NFL who are a clear upgrade to Dak, and then a bunch who are near his level or debatable, like a 40 year old Rodgers.

Every franchise wants the next Mahomes, but the reality is that there is only one of him and the rest of us have to try and find other ways to win. And there are other ways to win, lots of teams have won a ring without an elite QB. And if you are sitting around waiting on Dallas to draft the next Mahomes the odds are you're going to be waiting all the way to your grave.

If your playing the odds, perhaps yes. But none of us ever know when the nest generational player comes. Brady was a 6th round pick. I can think of 8-10 QB's in the league today that I consider an upgrade over your boy. I have Dak on the same level as Baker Mayfield.

I wouldn’t put Dak that low. Dak is still somewhere between the 8-12 best QB in the NFL. He’s right there with Cousins, Carr, Jackson, Tannehill, JimmyG, and even Hurts. Hurts had a great year but will come back to Earth.

[Micah Prescott]

Wouldn't be a debate at all if we were fortunate enough to have a choice between Rodgers and Dak.

It's absolutely debatable, Dak won more playoff games than Rodgers did last season for one, but Rodgers was noticeably worse outside of just having low skill WRs. It's to the point that he knows he retirement is either here or close.

If you really have Dak on the same tier as Mayfield you are a very very very poor judge of talent

[Cactus Jack]

Next year's QB draft class looks much better to me and I'd rather wait till then.

It's not.

Caleb Williams is a stud & will be the #1 pick next year. But Young & Stroud are both better prospects than Drake Maye.

This year's class doesn't have an Andrew Luck or Joe Burrow type prospect. But you've got 2 or 3 QB's who could be very good starters.

So unless you tank & land the #1 pick, the chances of getting an impact guy next year, isn't great.

That's your opinion. I've already told you and everyone in here multiple times that I don't like ANY of the QB's in this draft class and I stand by it. We still have numb nuts for at least one more year and two if WE WANT. Lets not get bonkers and losing our minds on drafting a QB out of desperation and end up drafting another Dak. Based on what I have seen from this year's QB draft class, I'd rather wait and take my chances next year. And also we don't know how things are going to work out down the road for QB's like Rodgers, Burrow if the Bengals don't sign or can afford to sign him. I'm hearing the Bengals are already doing Burrow dirty. There could be some way better options ahead is all I'm saying. Lets not lose our minds here. Jerry and the Cowboys have been going all in for the most part of 27 years. Where has it gotten us? Draft smart, get some more nice pieces and keep building. The defense is close to being elite. Lets not turn our backs on that. Except for 4 pieces, I kinda like this team.

It's my opinion, but it's a good one that many will share.

There isn't a Mahomes or Josh Allen in this draft. But Bryce Young & Cj Stroud are both very good QB prospects.

Anthony Richardson could have a Lamar like impact at the next level. That's why he's going to be a very high pick.

Even your boy Hooker could be a decent starter. Who could be had in Round 2.

Last year's group of QB's we're awful. But this year is different.

[Micah Prescott]

There likely won't be another Mahomes in the next 5-10 drafts. He's a generational talent. Outside of him there are maybe 3-4 QBs in the NFL who are a clear upgrade to Dak, and then a bunch who are near his level or debatable, like a 40 year old Rodgers.

Every franchise wants the next Mahomes, but the reality is that there is only one of him and the rest of us have to try and find other ways to win. And there are other ways to win, lots of teams have won a ring without an elite QB. And if you are sitting around waiting on Dallas to draft the next Mahomes the odds are you're going to be waiting all the way to your grave.

If your playing the odds, perhaps yes. But none of us ever know when the nest generational player comes. Brady was a 6th round pick. I can think of 8-10 QB's in the league today that I consider an upgrade over your boy. I have Dak on the same level as Baker Mayfield.

I wouldn’t put Dak that low. Dak is still somewhere between the 8-12 best QB in the NFL. He’s right there with Cousins, Carr, Jackson, Tannehill, JimmyG, and even Hurts. Hurts had a great year but will come back to Earth.

Yep I agree with this, and 8-12 is good enough to win a ring, that's about where Stafford is.

Broncos Peyton Manning was the worst QB in the NFL and won a ring. You can do it on just defense alone, and that is our best odds. Creating an elite defense.

[Mr B]

What would you guys think about TE Dalton Kincaid at pick 26? They have Ferguson and Hendershot who both look pretty solid but they will be losing Dalton Schultz. Several times last season they went with a 2 or 3 TE set and either motioned them out to the slot or just used them as extra blockers. If MM is going to call the plays now I’d expect to see a lot more screens this year and having two or three TE’s that are good receivers could really help. I can’t say I’d be opposed to drafting a highly talented TE at 26.

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[bluejerseyjinx]

Wouldn't be a debate at all if we were fortunate enough to have a choice between Rodgers and Dak.

It's absolutely debatable, Dak won more playoff games than Rodgers did last season for one, but Rodgers was noticeably worse outside of just having low skill WRs. It's to the point that he knows he retirement is either here or close.

If you really have Dak on the same tier as Mayfield you are a very very very poor judge of talent

This coming from a person that thinks we can win and get to a Super bowl with dumb Dak. Wow. And another wow. Dak finally won a playoff game. Too bad is isn't capable of winning more than one in a row every three or four years. So now you want to compare Rodgers with Dak (who compares with Cousins and Baker Mayfield in the biggest of games and biggest moments)? Enjoy your Dak Prescott pom poms for one more year my friend. It will be all over for him after next season, especially when he totally chokes away another playoff game all on his own again with the help of Mike McCarthy. Maybe after one more choke on Dak's part you will finally agree with me after 4 years of telling you that dumb Dak is not the guy. I have some $$$ left over from last season. Would you like to make a friendly wager on how far he takes us again next year? Money, case of beer, dinner at your favorite restaurant, you name it.

[Micah Prescott]

What would you guys think about TE Dalton Kincaid at pick 26? They have Ferguson and Hendershot who both look pretty solid but they will be losing Dalton Schultz. Several times last season they went with a 2 or 3 TE set and either motioned them out to the slot or just used them as extra blockers. If MM is going to call the plays now I’d expect to see a lot more screens this year and having two or three TE’s that are good receivers could really help. I can’t say I’d be opposed to drafting a highly talented TE at 26.

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For some reason TE hasn't even been on my mind. It is really devastating to lose Schultz, he was literally the team's 2nd best receiver behind Lamb.

Without Schultz TE is arguably the team's biggest need. I wonder if we can fill this gap in free agency so that we don't have to waste our 1st rd pick on it.

[Micah Prescott]

Wouldn't be a debate at all if we were fortunate enough to have a choice between Rodgers and Dak.

It's absolutely debatable, Dak won more playoff games than Rodgers did last season for one, but Rodgers was noticeably worse outside of just having low skill WRs. It's to the point that he knows he retirement is either here or close.

If you really have Dak on the same tier as Mayfield you are a very very very poor judge of talent

This coming from a person that thinks we can win and get to a Super bowl with dumb Dak. Wow. And another wow. Dak finally won a playoff game. Too bad is isn't capable of winning more than one in a row every three or four years. So now you want to compare Rodgers with Dak (who compares with Cousins and Baker Mayfield in the biggest of games and biggest moments)? Enjoy your Dak Prescott pom poms for one more year my friend. It will be all over for him after next season, especially when he totally chokes away another playoff game all on his own again with the help of Mike McCarthy. Maybe after one more choke on Dak's part you will finally agree with me after 4 years of telling you that dumb Dak is not the guy. I have some $$$ left over from last season. Would you like to make a friendly wager on how far he takes us again next year? Money, case of beer, dinner at your favorite restaurant, you name it.

It was already obvious that you vastly underrated Dak but now it is apparent that you vastly OVERrate Mayfield

Cousins and Mayfield aren't on the same tier. Mayfield isn't even a starter, he isn't a top-32 QB.

Make a top-20 QB list please, I'd love to see it.

[bluejerseyjinx]

It's absolutely debatable, Dak won more playoff games than Rodgers did last season for one, but Rodgers was noticeably worse outside of just having low skill WRs. It's to the point that he knows he retirement is either here or close.

If you really have Dak on the same tier as Mayfield you are a very very very poor judge of talent

This coming from a person that thinks we can win and get to a Super bowl with dumb Dak. Wow. And another wow. Dak finally won a playoff game. Too bad is isn't capable of winning more than one in a row every three or four years. So now you want to compare Rodgers with Dak (who compares with Cousins and Baker Mayfield in the biggest of games and biggest moments)? Enjoy your Dak Prescott pom poms for one more year my friend. It will be all over for him after next season, especially when he totally chokes away another playoff game all on his own again with the help of Mike McCarthy. Maybe after one more choke on Dak's part you will finally agree with me after 4 years of telling you that dumb Dak is not the guy. I have some $$$ left over from last season. Would you like to make a friendly wager on how far he takes us again next year? Money, case of beer, dinner at your favorite restaurant, you name it.

It was already obvious that you vastly underrated Dak but now it is apparent that you vastly OVERrate Mayfield

Cousins and Mayfield aren't on the same tier. Mayfield isn't even a starter, he isn't a top-32 QB.

Make a top-20 QB list please, I'd love to see it.

How the hell have I underrated Dak Prescott? I told you and everyone in here 3 years ago that Dak is not the guy. He's over paid, he's under delivered and last year's playoff game was a complete choke job that costs us the game pretty much all on his own. He makes horrible decisions, doesn't correctly read defenses in big games, he chokes and cost the team games when under pressure, its easy to get under his skin, throws way too many INT's and after 7 years has proved to me he has NOT gotten better. Doesn't have the mindset or enough talent to put the team on his shoulders and make people and the players around him better. One example was losing to a 3ird string QB by the name of Sam Howell. And that wasn't the first time Dak didn't show up vs. a second or third string QB. By far Dak is the weakest link on our offense and we are stuck with him for one more year at least.
You can sugar coat your boy all you want. I and others expect it. But don't tell me I have bad judgement in evaluating other QB's when you can't see what has been in front of your eyes the past 7 years. So again, where I have been wrong on Dak? Seems like I have been spot on since I told you 3 years ago he wasn't the guy. Where have I been wrong when it comes to the expectations of the Dallas Cowboys when it comes to your boy?

[Micah Prescott]

You underrate him because you "rate" him in the same tier as players like Mayfield. That is literally underrating him.

But also you rate Mayfield too high because you have him in the same tier as Cousins who is much better.

So really you just don't rate players in general very accurately.

Show me your top-20 QBs, is Dak even on that list? Probably not which is underrating him.