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Rui Hachimura 2.0

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Post#781 » by tleikheen » Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:41 pm

It's silly because of Tommy had given Rui a max extension to stay. Everyone would be calling for his head anyway. Rui didn't wanna be here for the money we were offering, so we moved him. Plain and simple.


This isnt so much about Rui getting paid the going rate .....99.9 percent of you know the whole roster construction is hamstrung with Bradley Beals yearly pay rate .Ive seen all of you holler and complain about it and can see players getting lowballed with offers or else they need to be moved or not resigned.
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Post#782 » by payitforward » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:49 am

Rui had a nice outing in his first game as a Laker -- 4-7 from the floor including a 3-pointer. Only 3-6 from the line, however (make your free throws, Rui! They don't call them "free" for no reason!).

He also bagged 6 boards in his 22 minutes, along with an assist & a steal. No TOs or fouls either. Keep it up, Rui!
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Post#783 » by nate33 » Mon Mar 6, 2023 5:57 pm

Rui has been pretty terrible for the Lakers, averaging just 14 points and 8 boards per 36 on a TS% of .510.

Since they acquired Vanderbilt, he has been even worse, averaging just 20 minutes a game and posting a TS% of .448.
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Post#784 » by nate33 » Mon Mar 6, 2023 5:57 pm

Rui has been pretty terrible for the Lakers, averaging just 14 points and 8 boards per 36 on a TS% of .510.

Since they acquired Vanderbilt, he has been even worse, averaging just 20 minutes a game and posting a TS% of .448.
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Post#785 » by Kanyewest » Mon Mar 6, 2023 6:48 pm

Laker fans think Troy Brown Jr. is better at this point.

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Although maybe Rui is depressed about Brandon Clarke being out for the season
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Post#786 » by gambitx777 » Mon Mar 6, 2023 6:57 pm

Kanyewest wrote:Laker fans think Troy Brown Jr. is better at this point.

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Although maybe Rui is depressed about Brandon Clarke being out for the season
Can someone go check on piff we haven't heard from him since Brandon went down lol.

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Post#787 » by WallToWall » Mon Mar 6, 2023 7:04 pm

If only Rui could play up to his potential….
Then again, that goes for everyone.
Still rooting for the guy, but now I don’t see him being more than a journeyman.
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Post#788 » by nate33 » Mon Mar 6, 2023 7:27 pm

Troy Brown played 41 minutes last night. I'm not sure if it's because he is actually good, or merely because he is the only guy on their roster with a small forward body type. He is shooting 37% on 3-pointers this year (on fairly low volume), which is nice. Consistent shooting was always his weakness.

I like him and hope that he carves out a role in this league for a nice, long career. For the time being, he is in the "journeyman" category, playing on his 3rd team in 5 years and currently on a vet minimum contract.
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Post#789 » by payitforward » Mon Mar 6, 2023 8:35 pm

Brown is having an ok season. He's 4th on the Lakers in minutes. Amazing to realize that he's still only 23. There are rookies older than Troy Brown Jr. !!
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Post#790 » by gambitx777 » Tue Mar 7, 2023 7:53 am

At this rate it's debatable that they even keep Rui next year. Man if they let him walk and not team wants him other than a vet min is him turning down Tommy's extension in the 12-13 mill range going down with the noel, Schroeder bone head move tier ?

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Post#791 » by prime1time » Tue Mar 7, 2023 2:19 pm

The case for Rui has always been a simple one. To survive in the NBA he needs to make 3's. 27.8% from 3 during February won't get it done. At the same time, the Lakers are a team in disarray. They've completely overhauled their roster during the middle of the year. Guys have no chemistry and are figuring everything out on the fly.
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Post#792 » by Dat2U » Wed Mar 8, 2023 5:45 am

Rui's potential was always tremendously overrated. Never was a two way player. Never saw floor well and always missed open teammates. Doesn't anticipate very well either. Only thing he could do is get a bucket but never was aggressive enough so it could compensate for the shortcomings.

Originally comparing him to Mike Scott was probably a decent call.
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Post#793 » by NatP4 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 6:28 am

prime1time wrote:The case for Rui has always been a simple one. To survive in the NBA he needs to make 3's. 27.8% from 3 during February won't get it done. At the same time, the Lakers are a team in disarray. They've completely overhauled their roster during the middle of the year. Guys have no chemistry and are figuring everything out on the fly.


This couldn’t be more wrong. Rui is terrible at everything. He doesn’t have basketball IQ, he’s not competitive, he doesn’t have a motor. He can’t see the floor. His defense is bad both individually and team. He’s a total ball stopper on offense that can make simple reads. Even when he was making 3s at an efficient rate, he was never helping his team.
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Post#794 » by Silvie Lysandra » Wed Mar 8, 2023 6:45 am

People saw a decent NBA body and assumed he'd figure the rest out esp with the late start to basketball. In reality, he just never had the skillset to be more than a 10-15 mpg backup.
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Post#795 » by Dark Faze » Wed Mar 8, 2023 2:38 pm

Soft mentally. Washington came at him with kids gloves. He's probably feeling some type of way with the expectations on him in LA.
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Post#796 » by nate33 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 2:41 pm

NatP4 wrote:
prime1time wrote:The case for Rui has always been a simple one. To survive in the NBA he needs to make 3's. 27.8% from 3 during February won't get it done. At the same time, the Lakers are a team in disarray. They've completely overhauled their roster during the middle of the year. Guys have no chemistry and are figuring everything out on the fly.


This couldn’t be more wrong. Rui is terrible at everything. He doesn’t have basketball IQ, he’s not competitive, he doesn’t have a motor. He can’t see the floor. His defense is bad both individually and team. He’s a total ball stopper on offense that can make simple reads. Even when he was making 3s at an efficient rate, he was never helping his team.

This is all pretty much true, but they're also things that could conceivably improve over time. Unfortunately, it never really did with Rui. He got a little better with on-ball defense and making simple reads on offense (being more decisive with the catch-and-shoot or passing the ball), but that's about it. His help defense was always terrible and he never learned to see the floor.
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Re: Rui Hachimura 2.0 

Post#797 » by prime1time » Wed Mar 8, 2023 7:28 pm

NatP4 wrote:
prime1time wrote:The case for Rui has always been a simple one. To survive in the NBA he needs to make 3's. 27.8% from 3 during February won't get it done. At the same time, the Lakers are a team in disarray. They've completely overhauled their roster during the middle of the year. Guys have no chemistry and are figuring everything out on the fly.


This couldn’t be more wrong. Rui is terrible at everything. He doesn’t have basketball IQ, he’s not competitive, he doesn’t have a motor. He can’t see the floor. His defense is bad both individually and team. He’s a total ball stopper on offense that can make simple reads. Even when he was making 3s at an efficient rate, he was never helping his team.

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Post#798 » by Kanyewest » Wed Mar 8, 2023 7:34 pm

Rui had 17 and 6 against the Grizzlies off the bench (7-11 shooting and 6 rebounds)- too bad that Brandon Clarke was out
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Re: Rui Hachimura 2.0 

Post#799 » by prime1time » Wed Mar 8, 2023 7:45 pm

Kanyewest wrote:Rui had 17 and 6 against the Grizzlies off the bench (7-11 shooting and 6 rebounds)- too bad that Brandon Clarke was out

We'll see what happens with him. Like I said in a previous post, the Lakers have no identity with the player turnover and injuries to Bron and AD. Here and there he has shown some good stuff though.
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A lot of people here are too biased to be objective, but the jury's still out on Hachimura. If he can start knocking down 3's the Lakers will give him a chance to develop the rest of his game.
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Re: Rui Hachimura 2.0 

Post#800 » by tleikheen » Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:08 pm

Playing w/Lebron Rui had to catch and shoot 3's which we all know isnt Rui's game. I think it threw Rui's game off.
But now their circling back to what Rui does best emphasizing going downhill and being physical in the paint on both ends.
We've seen a few times Rui playing the whole 4th quarter in tight games with the Lakers which WUJ never played him no matter how good he was playing .

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