Trade Discussion 22/23

[Michaellam1987]

Maybe Dallas can trade THJ for a re-signed Dillon Brooks. Brooks can be the Marcus Smart with Kyrie and Luka. That solves one Dallas problem.

No way MEM will be doing this. They would rather let Brooks leave through FA.

[arkuo]

Maybe Dallas can trade THJ for a re-signed Dillon Brooks. Brooks can be the Marcus Smart with Kyrie and Luka. That solves one Dallas problem.

No way MEM will be doing this. They would rather let Brooks leave through FA.

Well they lack shooters to space the floor for Morant's drives. Brooks and Steven Adams are clogging driving lanes for them IMO. If Morant had the same spacing Luka has with shooters and a 5 out offense, with his speed and athleticism, he'd do better I would think.

[Michaellam1987]

Maybe Dallas can trade THJ for a re-signed Dillon Brooks. Brooks can be the Marcus Smart with Kyrie and Luka. That solves one Dallas problem.

No way MEM will be doing this. They would rather let Brooks leave through FA.

Well they lack shooters to space the floor for Morant's drives. Brooks and Steven Adams are clogging driving lanes for them IMO. If Morant had the same spacing Luka has with shooters and a 5 out offense, with his speed and athleticism, he'd do better I would think.

MEM can easily find capable shooters in the FA market with more reasonable salary, instead of paying 17M to THJ for 2 more years.

[Michaellam1987]

Is there any way that M.Turner is taking us?..reports say that Indiana has been trying to change it for some time..I'm not sure why they would move it, but that extension they gave it doesn't seem to take it off the market.. What would it cost us? 2FRP? Would they do it?

This would be the dream scenario:

DAL Receives: M. Turner
IND Receives: C. Wood (3/48) / R. Bullock / '24 Unprotected 1st / '30 2nd / 6.8M Cash

DAL Receives: D. Finney-Smith / P. Mills / D. Sharpe
BKN Receives: D. Bertans / J. McGee / J. Hardy / '25 2nd

Preserves Dallas' ability to offer a significant (3 firsts & 3 swaps) trade package at the conclusion of the 2024 draft [ '25 1st / '27 1st / '31 1st / Swaps in '26/'28/'30 ] to make an all-in move while plugging all of the roster's holes in the immediate term.

Resign Kyrie (5yrs 220M) [38/41/44/47/50]
Extend Josh (4yrs 70M)
Resign D. Powell / J. Holiday / T. Pinson / A. Lawson to 1yr Vet Minimums @1,989,896
Target developmental PGs & PFs for 2-way spots

Rotation:

PG: K. Irving (35) / P. Mills (5)
SG: L. Doncic (35) / T. Hardaway Jr. (20) / T. Pinson
SF: J. Green (35) / J. Holiday (15) / A. Lawson
PF: D. Finney-Smith (35) / M. Kleber (25)
C: M. Turner (30) / D. Powell (5)/ D. Sharpe

Why IND will trade Turner away for a future #1, especially when he is still under a very reasonable contract for 2 more years? If they really like Wood, they have the necessary cap space to sign him through FA directly. Bullock and a future #2 has limited values, would brother to comment on it.

DFS is rumored to have value of 2 future #1, why BKN will take on 2 bad contract and trade him away, in return for Hardy??? Seriously???

[Michaellam1987]

At this point, I would have traded a first round pick just get rid of Bertans. That KP trade looks absolutely awful in retrospect.

Cant agree anymore than that!!

[arkuo]

The bad news for Dallas here is the center market this summer has slim pickings. Outside of 35 year old Brook Lopez who may or may not leave Milwaukee, there's not a lot of centers who play defense that will be available for what Dallas can offer.

Re-signing Dwight Powell might be a real possibility (which sucks). Other than that, Luka may text his buddy Nikola Vucevic to sign for the MLE, but he doesn't play defense either. So that doesn't fix anything. Realistically, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel here, unless Brook Lopez is 100% sold on moving his house to Dallas. I don't see a quick and easy fix at the center position. Maybe if Kleber and Mcgee can hold it down at C for 82 games? Doubtful.

It will hinge on assisting Wood go to a team of his choice, and that team will also need to want to sign Wood to the money he wants. So it will take some work to get that nailed down. But that's the only way you can get a quality big back.

[Darren]

I think the Mavs should sign Omuruyi after the 10-day contract with Pistons. Eugene could potentially solve some of the frontcourt problems.

[dirkules_41]

I think the Mavs should sign Omuruyi after the 10-day contract with Pistons. Eugene could potentially solve some of the frontcourt problems.

How is that? He's a fringe NBA roster player and undersized for a 4, isn't a great rebounder or shot blocker and can't hit 3s of FTs.
I enjoyed his hustle during summerleague etc but he will never break into a rotation for a playoff team.

[41Dirk41]

I think the Mavs should sign Omuruyi after the 10-day contract with Pistons. Eugene could potentially solve some of the frontcourt problems.

How is that? He's a fringe NBA roster player and undersized for a 4, isn't a great rebounder or shot blocker and can't hit 3s of FTs.
I enjoyed his hustle during summerleague etc but he will never break into a rotation for a playoff team.

I liked him as a rookie but he never showed starting NBA potential... 26yo. No more a prospect.

[ozwizard8]

As to your questions.
Who guards them?
1. Maxi
2. Probably Reggie but possibly Josh.
3. Maxi - Reggie, Josh - Maxi, Maxi - Reggie. Respectively
This is fun it’s like being on jeopardy. But in all honesty the question you’re trying to ask is who stops them and the answer is nobody in the entire league stops Jokic, at a certain point when you’re playing all time greats and MVPs the only defense is a good offense.

All Dallas Cubans fans here. See the delusion. Please stop it.

I am asking who defends Lebron-AD? The Cuban fan answering Bullock-Maxi. Josh-Maxi.

Bullock vs Lebron. What a great matchup it was. What a great defense it was. Green would be too strong for Lebron so Kidd did not want to overpower the old guy.

I might be best Maxi fan here but he is no superman either. He is paid bench player money for a reason. You cant expect him to defend AD and Lebron

Booker-Durant with Ayton waiting inside
Jokic with Gordon-MPJ-KCP-Murray
Defending Kawhi-PG13 without DFS.
GSW to beat easier this time

Nico Harrison is responsible for the L games not Luka-Kidd-Carlisle.

Oz can you just be a rational intelligent person for 5 seconds please. You asked who was going to guard them not who was going to stop them. Nobody in the league is going to stop Jokic or Giannis or KD. You can call me delusional for pointing that out but at least I understand basic basketball.

You do not understand basketball. You do not understand the basic or advanced one.

You know damn well that no one implies STOPPING altogether. Any 10+ years older would know that we imply to have a decent defense against our top competitors.

Yes, some players slow down Jokic/Giannis and more. There is a huge difference between defending Jokic with Zubac vs Ayton for instance. I do not even ask for the best defender. Just having league-average wing defenders and a center would be enough for Luka. Putting SGs against f'in 7-footer PFs is your miserable idea.

Anyway, you were delusional to think Josh-Bullock-Maxi defending Lebron-AD. And before a month passed you got your answer in a great fashion. They should keep posters under the age of 13 like you out.

[Joshrm]

Nico Harrison is responsible for the L games not Luka-Kidd

Is Nico Harrison responsible for missed free throw and open shots

[Mike lorenzo]

feels a lot of tension around here..guys remember we are all in the same boat..personally i think we are in a very good situation,our year is next..we will be fine..we are a couple of good roleplayers away from be fearsome and we have the necessary assets...
Grant/Poelt/Vandervilt+Dlo+Beasley/DWhite/MBrogdon ...are just a few of the recently changed types that fit our needs/Price range...for example...(Capella/Turner/HBarnes/Caruso/Royce /DFS/Gafford) I think they are types that could be available and in a similar cost range to those mentioned above..

[41Dirk41]

feels a lot of tension around here..guys remember we are all in the same boat..personally i think we are in a very good situation,our year is next..we will be fine..we are a couple of good roleplayers away from be fearsome and we have the necessary assets...
Grant/Poelt/Vandervilt+Dlo+Beasley/DWhite/MBrogdon ...are just a few of the recently changed types that fit our needs/Price range...for example...(Capella/Turner/HBarnes/Caruso/Royce /DFS/Gafford) I think they are types that could be available and in a similar cost range to those mentioned above..

Agree.

Next year will be all in for the Mavs. No matter what.

[BeiBeau]

All Dallas Cubans fans here. See the delusion. Please stop it.

I am asking who defends Lebron-AD? The Cuban fan answering Bullock-Maxi. Josh-Maxi.

Bullock vs Lebron. What a great matchup it was. What a great defense it was. Green would be too strong for Lebron so Kidd did not want to overpower the old guy.

I might be best Maxi fan here but he is no superman either. He is paid bench player money for a reason. You cant expect him to defend AD and Lebron

Booker-Durant with Ayton waiting inside
Jokic with Gordon-MPJ-KCP-Murray
Defending Kawhi-PG13 without DFS.
GSW to beat easier this time

Nico Harrison is responsible for the L games not Luka-Kidd-Carlisle.

Oz can you just be a rational intelligent person for 5 seconds please. You asked who was going to guard them not who was going to stop them. Nobody in the league is going to stop Jokic or Giannis or KD. You can call me delusional for pointing that out but at least I understand basic basketball.

You do not understand basketball. You do not understand the basic or advanced one.

You know damn well that no one implies STOPPING altogether. Any 10+ years older would know that we imply to have a decent defense against our top competitors.

Yes, some players slow down Jokic/Giannis and more. There is a huge difference between defending Jokic with Zubac vs Ayton for instance. I do not even ask for the best defender. Just having league-average wing defenders and a center would be enough for Luka. Putting SGs against f'in 7-footer PFs is your miserable idea.

Anyway, you were delusional to think Josh-Bullock-Maxi defending Lebron-AD. And before a month passed you got your answer in a great fashion. They should keep posters under the age of 13 like you out.

1. You write like a kid who isn't very smart so they go get a thesaurus and just start replacing random words. You also don't know what the word imply means. And finally if you have to bold every other word you write then it means what you have to say isn't that important.

2. Sure, there are better defenders. I want them. I wanted Dallas to get them. I was hoping for Dallas to trade for Jared Vanderbilt as a DFS replacement but it is what it is. Also Green - Bullock - Maxi are all above league average when it comes to wing defense. In a mathematical sense you can't really take a "average" skill level in defense but we can take a median. And of the 450 players in the league they are all comfortably in the top 225 in terms of perimeter defense. So you're wrong there, but then again have you ever been right about anything?

3. All that being said are they Kawhi Leonard? No. Are they going to hold Giannis to under 30? No. But that wasn't your question. You asked who was going to defend them and I said those 3. I know you can barely read bud but notice for me that the word "defend" is not that same thing as "stop". I never said they were going to slow those guys down, I said they were going to guard them and whoopsie daisy I was **** right. Also as I pointed out in my first post holding Jokic, Lebron, KD, and Giannis back was not going to be a recipe for Dallas winning, at a certain point we just simply have to out score them.

So can we please be done with this now? Please don't ever respond to me until your reading capabilities and mental facilities are above that of a literal gold fish.

[ozwizard8]

Oz can you just be a rational intelligent person for 5 seconds please. You asked who was going to guard them not who was going to stop them. Nobody in the league is going to stop Jokic or Giannis or KD. You can call me delusional for pointing that out but at least I understand basic basketball.

You do not understand basketball. You do not understand the basic or advanced one.

You know damn well that no one implies STOPPING altogether. Any 10+ years older would know that we imply to have a decent defense against our top competitors.

Yes, some players slow down Jokic/Giannis and more. There is a huge difference between defending Jokic with Zubac vs Ayton for instance. I do not even ask for the best defender. Just having league-average wing defenders and a center would be enough for Luka. Putting SGs against f'in 7-footer PFs is your miserable idea.

Anyway, you were delusional to think Josh-Bullock-Maxi defending Lebron-AD. And before a month passed you got your answer in a great fashion. They should keep posters under the age of 13 like you out.

1. You write like a kid who isn't very smart so they go get a thesaurus and just start replacing random words. You also don't know what the word imply means. And finally if you have to bold every other word you write then it means what you have to say isn't that important.

2. Sure, there are better defenders. I want them. I wanted Dallas to get them. I was hoping for Dallas to trade for Jared Vanderbilt as a DFS replacement but it is what it is. Also Green - Bullock - Maxi are all above league average when it comes to wing defense. In a mathematical sense you can't really take a "average" skill level in defense but we can take a median. And of the 450 players in the league they are all comfortably in the top 225 in terms of perimeter defense. So you're wrong there, but then again have you ever been right about anything?

3. All that being said are they Kawhi Leonard? No. Are they going to hold Giannis to under 30? No. But that wasn't your question. You asked who was going to defend them and I said those 3. I know you can barely read bud but notice for me that the word "defend" is not that same thing as "stop". I never said they were going to slow those guys down, I said they were going to guard them and whoopsie daisy I was **** right. Also as I pointed out in my first post holding Jokic, Lebron, KD, and Giannis back was not going to be a recipe for Dallas winning, at a certain point we just simply have to out score them.

So can we please be done with this now? Please don't ever respond to me until your reading capabilities and mental facilities are above that of a literal gold fish.

After your pathetic attempt to insult me with a goldfish reference, I should not answer you. Seriously how old are you? 12? 11? Less? Reading capabilities of goldfish:lol: You are showing your incompetence in everything.

You are a joke. You are the one who stated that Green-Bullock will be good to defend Lebron-AD and all other wing duos.

You damn know you are exposed with all your BS. You are trying to cover your poor takes with miserable attempts of changing the topic. You are the one that said 'no one stops Giannis' BS. Again, how old are you? You know no one talks about stopping them 100%, but you shamelessly put this to cover up your foolish comments. You can go back to your original comment and reply yourself with 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. You are the clown that thinks sending DFS is fine because we will beat them with the offense. You are still making dumb comments about holding Giannis to 30. It's not about holding Giannis at 30, it's about not letting him create too many open 3pts, not letting him shoot 90% TS.

Mavs can't even defend Zionless Pelicans. 225 out of 450 talk showing your IQ level and lack of education as well. You do not even know what you are talking about. No one says Green is a bad defender. His experience level is so low compared to DFS who showed up in the playoffs. Green is good against guards and smaller forwards. DFS may not be enough but he was much better than Green-Bullock against PFs. If you were asking for Vanderbilt then you'd tell me yes we need Vanderbilt to defend wing player duos of the West. You said no one can defend star players so double down offense.

Grow up, and learn how to make arguments. Learn to own your mistakes. And you were asking for Thesaurus. Here is what you can find on Thesaurus with your name BeiBeau.

[ozwizard8]

feels a lot of tension around here..guys remember we are all in the same boat..personally i think we are in a very good situation,our year is next..we will be fine..we are a couple of good roleplayers away from be fearsome and we have the necessary assets...
Grant/Poelt/Vandervilt+Dlo+Beasley/DWhite/MBrogdon ...are just a few of the recently changed types that fit our needs/Price range...for example...(Capella/Turner/HBarnes/Caruso/Royce /DFS/Gafford) I think they are types that could be available and in a similar cost range to those mentioned above..

Agree.

Next year will be all in for the Mavs. No matter what.

We are kinda all-in now as we need to wait to get picks to trade, and our cap space is way over. Brunson-DFS-Dinwiddie is gone, and Kyrie is in. Anyone feels better for playoffs compared to last year?

Optimistic All-in Scenario: Kyrie resigns $250m/5 year deal.
Mavs either resign Wood long-term or trade him. Trade draft picks to find wing defenders and find a defensive center. (picks do not worth much, though. so low expectations)

Alternative All-in Scenario: Sign&trade Kyrie. (Kyrie at max deal with this age is not a big asset, dont expect to get a legit star back.)
Mavs should be able to get D'Angelo Russell+Vanderbilt type of deal. I dont know if there is any other Kyrie destination. Keep in mind Kyrie needs to approve the team, and that team must want to give Kyrie a max deal.
In this scenario, we keep Wood and try to find some defensive center but eventually settle with Noel...

Pessimistic All-in Scenario: Kyrie says bye-bye and leaves Mavs dry. I mean, he can even go and play for MLE for a season. There are some lunatic players that lose a lot of money due to wrong choices. Kyrie already lost tons of money from endorsement deals.
No cap space, so Mavs overpay to keep Wood as an offensive weapon. Probably settle with an average wing defender and a 6th men SG. (Bogdanovic?)

Honestly, I am even worried about some of the resigning. Josh Green may get a big offer. Some teams may look at the increasing cap and give Green an $80m/4-year deal.

This year FO tried four moves to cover up the Brunson mistake. (Wood, FACU, Kemba, Kyrie)
Next year they'll care about the balance of the team and the defensive side. But are we going to keep Kyrie? What happens with Green-Maxi-Powell expiring deals? Does Cuban want to pay a massive tax bill for this team?

[41Dirk41]

After letting go Brunson for nothing without take a replacement then this season was over before it started.
That's a fact, only stupid Cuban think that Ntilikina could fill the spot. We said this a million times.

Kyrie trade was good but it's only the first step.

We need to re-sign Josh but hell no for 80M/4y. Nobody will offer that money unless a Brunson PO explosion. The best option is re-sign him now for cheap. Maybe too smart for Cuban.

Bertans expires next year (his last year is only 5M garanteed), Powell earns the vet min contract. No more.
Maxi is already re-signed.
We will be in a good spot with picks and expires.

We are in a good position with Kyrie too, no contender will have cap space next year so or he re-sign here or he needs a S&T.



Obviously Cuban will screw us again

[BeiBeau]

You do not understand basketball. You do not understand the basic or advanced one.

You know damn well that no one implies STOPPING altogether. Any 10+ years older would know that we imply to have a decent defense against our top competitors.

Yes, some players slow down Jokic/Giannis and more. There is a huge difference between defending Jokic with Zubac vs Ayton for instance. I do not even ask for the best defender. Just having league-average wing defenders and a center would be enough for Luka. Putting SGs against f'in 7-footer PFs is your miserable idea.

Anyway, you were delusional to think Josh-Bullock-Maxi defending Lebron-AD. And before a month passed you got your answer in a great fashion. They should keep posters under the age of 13 like you out.

1. You write like a kid who isn't very smart so they go get a thesaurus and just start replacing random words. You also don't know what the word imply means. And finally if you have to bold every other word you write then it means what you have to say isn't that important.

2. Sure, there are better defenders. I want them. I wanted Dallas to get them. I was hoping for Dallas to trade for Jared Vanderbilt as a DFS replacement but it is what it is. Also Green - Bullock - Maxi are all above league average when it comes to wing defense. In a mathematical sense you can't really take a "average" skill level in defense but we can take a median. And of the 450 players in the league they are all comfortably in the top 225 in terms of perimeter defense. So you're wrong there, but then again have you ever been right about anything?

3. All that being said are they Kawhi Leonard? No. Are they going to hold Giannis to under 30? No. But that wasn't your question. You asked who was going to defend them and I said those 3. I know you can barely read bud but notice for me that the word "defend" is not that same thing as "stop". I never said they were going to slow those guys down, I said they were going to guard them and whoopsie daisy I was **** right. Also as I pointed out in my first post holding Jokic, Lebron, KD, and Giannis back was not going to be a recipe for Dallas winning, at a certain point we just simply have to out score them.

So can we please be done with this now? Please don't ever respond to me until your reading capabilities and mental facilities are above that of a literal gold fish.

After your pathetic attempt to insult me with a goldfish reference, I should not answer you. Seriously how old are you? 12? 11? Less? Reading capabilities of goldfish:lol: You are showing your incompetence in everything.

You are a joke. You are the one who stated that Green-Bullock will be good to defend Lebron-AD and all other wing duos.

You damn know you are exposed with all your BS. You are trying to cover your poor takes with miserable attempts of changing the topic. You are the one that said 'no one stops Giannis' BS. Again, how old are you? You know no one talks about stopping them 100%, but you shamelessly put this to cover up your foolish comments. You can go back to your original comment and reply yourself with 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. You are the clown that thinks sending DFS is fine because we will beat them with the offense. You are still making dumb comments about holding Giannis to 30. It's not about holding Giannis at 30, it's about not letting him create too many open 3pts, not letting him shoot 90% TS.

Mavs can't even defend Zionless Pelicans. 225 out of 450 talk showing your IQ level and lack of education as well. You do not even know what you are talking about. No one says Green is a bad defender. His experience level is so low compared to DFS who showed up in the playoffs. Green is good against guards and smaller forwards. DFS may not be enough but he was much better than Green-Bullock against PFs. If you were asking for Vanderbilt then you'd tell me yes we need Vanderbilt to defend wing player duos of the West. You said no one can defend star players so double down offense.

Grow up, and learn how to make arguments. Learn to own your mistakes. And you were asking for Thesaurus. Here is what you can find on Thesaurus with your name BeiBeau.

It's okay bud. I went and got the full OPs for you since you clearly love to try and move the goal posts.

KP was never good at defense other than during bubble season with the Mavs. He was never mobile enough due to injuries.
Wood is nowhere near at rim deterrence of good years of KP. Wood loses his man so frequently and he gives open lanes most of the time too. Other teams will exploit him in playoffs for big time.

Mavs already went all-in with Kyrie. So let's just plan against matchups this offseason. 3 Major issues: 1-on-1 Jokic defense, Curry-Poole rim protection, forward duo defense (Kawhi-PG, Lebron-AD, Ingram-Zion).
1- who is to defend Jokic?
Ayton would be great addition but probably not possible.

2- who can defend Curry and GSW?
Kyrie-Luka cannot defend perimeter, no rim protector inside. No great help defender at wing positions. We need like a prime Igoudola+rim protector. Tybulle sucks at offense but maybe try it?

3- Clippers or Lakers? who defends Kawhi+PG or Lebron+AD? Zion+Ingram?
DFS is gone. Green is too small. Maxi is not enough by himself. We need DFS back, plus one.

I don't think Mavs have answers for those 3. With Kyrie on the backcourt, it's even worse now. Luka is top 3 in my eyes. But even KD+Kyrie was a 1st round exit. Lets not fool ourselves.

It'd be a toss-up against Kawhi-PG, but I can see Denver or GSW eliminating us in 5 games.

Phrases like “X can’t do this, Y can’t do that” are often vast overly simplified and generally show a lack of understanding. Luka can in fact defend on the perimeter, is he Kawhi? No but he has been a much improved defender this season and is sometimes the weakest Mavs defender in the Mavs line up but he is not a liability like he has been in the pass.. Saying he can’t do it is a clear sign of buying into the narrative instead of actually watching the games.

As to your questions.
Who guards them?
1. Maxi
2. Probably Reggie but possibly Josh.
3. Maxi - Reggie, Josh - Maxi, Maxi - Reggie. Respectively

This is fun it’s like being on jeopardy. But in all honesty the question you’re trying to ask is who stops them and the answer is nobody in the entire league stops Jokic, at a certain point when you’re playing all time greats and MVPs the only defense is a good offense.

Dallas’ defense has been worse this year by a lot. They went from top 10 to 24. But the number 1 reason for that is injuries. Maxi who is the best defender on the team(yes better than Dorian and has been better at defense for the last 4 years) has missed most of the season. Josh Green who has been the best defender Dallas has had this season missed 2 months. And Dorian who is our 2nd best defender missed a month as well.

The other reason Dallas’ defense has gone rotten is the line up. Dallas has be trying to start Luka, Spencer, Tim, DFS, and Wood or Powell for most of the year. Luka and Powell are both better defensively this year than last. Wood is a better defender than Powell was last year as well and Dinwiddie is better than Brunson was. The big change has been Tim starting over Reggie. That is the mistake. We consistently had 2 good defenders on the floor last year and this year because of injuries and because the coaches are trying to make up for the lack of jalen Brunson they have been starting Tim over Reggie. That is a big problem. If Tim is defending Julius Randle we’re gonna be bad.

I think the Mavs absolutely should be looking at adding a high level defender. Jakob Poeltl and Jared Vanderbilt are my 2 guys I like the most for that role. But oversimplified doom and gloom leaves out a lot of context.

Dallas gets maxi back soon. The rotation should be

1- Luka /Kyrie
2- Kyrie / Frank or Hardy
3- Josh / THJ
4- Reggie/ Maxi / Davis
5- Powell/ Wood / Javale

It doesn’t matter if they’re 24th or 30th in the league in defense right now. When they get maxi back and they can(god forbid if) get Tim to his 2nd unit spot they need to be top 10 in defense again going forward. They’re not worse then they were last year they just need to do the actual work.

1. Notice for me since your brain can't recognize it your self.

You are the clown that thinks sending DFS is fine because we will beat them with the offense.

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It doesn’t matter if they’re 24th or 30th in the league in defense right now. When they get maxi back and they can(god forbid if) get Tim to his 2nd unit spot they need to be top 10 in defense again going forward. They’re not worse then they were last year they just need to do the actual work.

Do you see me saying that they're going to need to step up their defense or are you being willfully ignorant?

Just having league-average wing defenders and a center would be enough for Luka.

225 out of 450 talk showing your IQ level and lack of education as well.

2. Even if I told you my qualifications in mathematics and statistics you wouldn't believe me. So all that you need to know without advanced stats we can't truly assign a numerical value to defense, mostly because defense is more of a team stat. Green-Maxi-Bullock are all easily better then 225 other NBA players at wing defense. So they're not technically league average because without advanced stats that would be a difficult number to come to. Therefore, they are above league median in wing defense.

Mavs can't even defend Zionless Pelicans. 225 out of 450 talk showing your IQ level and lack of education as well.

3. Leaving out a lot of context here aren't you bud? 2nd night of a back to back. Missing Maxi and Bullock who are both top 7 in the rotation when healthy and are 2 of our top 3 defenders. Also the only reason you say "can't even defend" is because they lost. If the final score was 116-113 you wouldn't be bringing this up right now. But because Luka and Kyrie had bad nights you want to blame the defense.

4. You're trying to call me a hypocrite because I said we shouldn't worry about who matches up 1-to-1 with star players but at the same time I mentioned defensive players I want Dallas go after. And you think that is a contradiction but if you had any understanding of basketball you would know that it really isn't. We need to improve on defense, possibly in man defense, but more importantly as a defensive system. We need better rotations, smarter switches, and to be more organized, and on some level more talent that's why I wanted Poeltl or Vanderbilt. I want to add Poeltl or Vanderbilt because it would help the team defense, not because they're going to come in and guard Giannis full court for 40 minutes.

Hope this helps bud. We will keep working through your issues together.

[Apz]

No point in arguing with ozwizard. He got some blackmail material on the mods so you will end up with a ban. So everyone know what it is, but its just no point arguing with him. Just ignore him.

U can see his capacity when he thinks getting dlo is ranked higher then just let kyrie expire

[BeiBeau]

No point in arguing with ozwizard. He got some blackmail material on the mods so you will end up with a ban. So everyone know what it is, but its just no point arguing with him. Just ignore him.

U can see his capacity when he thinks getting dlo is ranked higher then just let kyrie expire

Yeah at this point we just gotta let Oz and Daoneandonly yell into the void. My bad.